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jays68yak · 01-20-2003, 09:55 PM

I have a 4 speed out of my 69 suburban. Im trying to figure out what it is for sure so that im not misleading anyone on ebay.

Glove box: M28 HD 4 SPD C R TRANS
Side of Tranny Pass: C-95948K
Side of Tranny Driver: 630-C

What is it for sure? You can see a pic of you check out my ebay auctions below.

Thanks

jays68yak · 01-20-2003, 10:25 PM

Ok I searched the board and it looks like it might be a 435CR. Thats according to the glove box. It looks like a SM465 tranny in my opnion.

Can anyone help id this thing???? Any websites I should check out?

Fred T · 01-20-2003, 10:25 PM

Looks like a 465. Here's a good website.
http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge...on_gateway.htm

Reverse should be to the right.

jays68yak · 01-20-2003, 10:45 PM

My tranny

jays68yak · 01-20-2003, 10:45 PM

a 435CR from the site above

jays68yak · 01-20-2003, 10:57 PM

Heres another pic of mine.

jays68yak · 01-21-2003, 12:03 AM

What do you guys think this thing is worth?

Blazer1970 · 01-21-2003, 09:02 AM

It is not an SM465, they have PTO covers on both sides. It should be an SM420, but I am not sure from looking at it.

jays68yak · 01-21-2003, 03:51 PM

Some guy offered me $100 for the tranny and bellhousing plus shipping. Should I take it and run?

Blazer1970 · 01-21-2003, 04:04 PM

He might be pissed if he thinks he is getting a 465.

jays68yak · 01-21-2003, 04:23 PM

No I told him what I think it is and I showed him the site. I think he knew before I did that it wasnt a SM465.
I just dont know what a fair price is for it, no matter what it is.

Blazer1970 · 01-21-2003, 05:12 PM

Then I think $100 is a pretty fair price. You might get as much as $200 if and when you find someone that REALLY wants it, but that's your decision. Personally, I would get rid of it.

truckman32 · 01-21-2003, 07:37 PM

take they money and run i can get that same trany at a junk yard for $50 is it granny gear it looks like the same trany that went with the old rusted truck i sold to a junk yard last year it was a granny gear

Billett · 09-17-2012, 04:05 PM

10 years later can anyone help me? Reverse is right and down, up and left is a granny gear. Before this thread I thought I had an sm465...

My research says it may be a new process 435

Billett · 09-24-2012, 08:19 PM

Can anyone confirm this is a NP435? I'm pretty positive at this point, since a few of them were put into 67-72 trucks, but any more info would help.

yuccales · 09-24-2012, 09:40 PM

Sure looks like my NP435. That little "gear" cast into the case, I think is a New Process insignia.

Billett · 09-24-2012, 11:53 PM

Any idea how rare this option is? I can't seem to find out much about them on chevy's

yuccales · 09-25-2012, 03:50 PM

I don't know how rare they are. I do know mine came with the truck in 69, as I bought it from the original owner. My SPID calls it a CR trans. It has 197 thousand miles on it & still works perfect.

longbed67 · 09-25-2012, 06:13 PM

I have both a 465 and a 435. I am putting the 435 in my build and that is most definitely a NP435! $100 is a fair price. I paid $175 plus shipping for mine and it came with the bellhousing.

Billett · 09-26-2012, 10:43 AM

Thanks guys! Mine came with the truck too. I wish I could check my SPID, but the PO decided to spray bomb over it...

longbed67 · 09-26-2012, 01:56 PM

acetone should remove the spray bomb, and if your CAREFUL you wont damage the spid

**kwmech** · 09-26-2012, 04:08 PM

In about a month I'm gonna pull the 435 out of my 68 and put in a 465 with a ranger overdrive unit and regear the rear axle. I'm preferring the granny gear in the 465 as opposed to the 4-1 ratio in the 435. I'm sure the 465 will be a little quieter also

**kwmech** · 09-26-2012, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billett

Any idea how rare this option is? I can't seem to find out much about them on chevy's

Kind of, I think it was more of a transitional transmisision between the SM420 and the 465 in 1968 and 1969. I have never seen the 435 past 1969. I have had 2 trucks with the 435 and both were big blocks and also had the dana 60 rear with 3.54 ratio and a power-loc posi

OhioDan · 09-27-2012, 07:22 AM

Does this help? Notice the difference in the case around the shifter on the 435 and the 465.

jjzepplin · 09-27-2012, 07:53 AM

Wow-a ten year old thread. I cannot remember exactly why but I was on a six year old thread and mods closed it on me sayin they could not believe a six year old thread got bumped..It was about putting delays in the wiper switch. I found through pm's that this was still possible and a guy here named Putter can still do it to original switches. Don't know why they close threads but a lot of good info is lost.
SOO ten years later you may have found the answer. Hope the mods don't close this one cause that's some good stuff!

01-20-2003, 09:55 PM	#1
jays68yak Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Gilroy, CA Posts: 1,454	Tranny Id Help Please I have a 4 speed out of my 69 suburban. Im trying to figure out what it is for sure so that im not misleading anyone on ebay. Glove box: M28 HD 4 SPD C R TRANS Side of Tranny Pass: C-95948K Side of Tranny Driver: 630-C What is it for sure? You can see a pic of you check out my ebay auctions below. Thanks __________________ 1969 Chevy Project SWB Fleet, 20s, 5.3, t56, in the weeds. 1970 Chevy Truck cab on a 1979 Jimmy frame-8.1 liter 496 bbc/sm465/np203-jeds doubler-np205/d60/14bff Welded/42 tsls on recentered H1s 1998 Chevy Crew Cab K3500 SAS'd with hpd60, links and swayaway coilovers. 8.1l vortec DD/towrig "I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me. "

01-20-2003, 10:25 PM	#2
jays68yak Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Gilroy, CA Posts: 1,454	Ok I searched the board and it looks like it might be a 435CR. Thats according to the glove box. It looks like a SM465 tranny in my opnion. Can anyone help id this thing???? Any websites I should check out? __________________ 1969 Chevy Project SWB Fleet, 20s, 5.3, t56, in the weeds. 1970 Chevy Truck cab on a 1979 Jimmy frame-8.1 liter 496 bbc/sm465/np203-jeds doubler-np205/d60/14bff Welded/42 tsls on recentered H1s 1998 Chevy Crew Cab K3500 SAS'd with hpd60, links and swayaway coilovers. 8.1l vortec DD/towrig "I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me. "

01-20-2003, 10:25 PM	#3
Fred T Cantankerous Geezer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bel Aire, KS Posts: 6,264	Looks like a 465. Here's a good website. http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge...on_gateway.htm Reverse should be to the right. __________________ Fred There is no such thing as too much cam...just not enough engine.

01-20-2003, 10:45 PM	#4
jays68yak Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Gilroy, CA Posts: 1,454	My tranny Attached Images __________________ 1969 Chevy Project SWB Fleet, 20s, 5.3, t56, in the weeds. 1970 Chevy Truck cab on a 1979 Jimmy frame-8.1 liter 496 bbc/sm465/np203-jeds doubler-np205/d60/14bff Welded/42 tsls on recentered H1s 1998 Chevy Crew Cab K3500 SAS'd with hpd60, links and swayaway coilovers. 8.1l vortec DD/towrig "I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me. "

01-20-2003, 10:45 PM	#5
jays68yak Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Gilroy, CA Posts: 1,454	a 435CR from the site above Attached Images __________________ 1969 Chevy Project SWB Fleet, 20s, 5.3, t56, in the weeds. 1970 Chevy Truck cab on a 1979 Jimmy frame-8.1 liter 496 bbc/sm465/np203-jeds doubler-np205/d60/14bff Welded/42 tsls on recentered H1s 1998 Chevy Crew Cab K3500 SAS'd with hpd60, links and swayaway coilovers. 8.1l vortec DD/towrig "I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me. "

01-20-2003, 10:57 PM	#6
jays68yak Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Gilroy, CA Posts: 1,454	Heres another pic of mine. Attached Images __________________ 1969 Chevy Project SWB Fleet, 20s, 5.3, t56, in the weeds. 1970 Chevy Truck cab on a 1979 Jimmy frame-8.1 liter 496 bbc/sm465/np203-jeds doubler-np205/d60/14bff Welded/42 tsls on recentered H1s 1998 Chevy Crew Cab K3500 SAS'd with hpd60, links and swayaway coilovers. 8.1l vortec DD/towrig "I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me. "

01-21-2003, 12:03 AM	#7
jays68yak Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Gilroy, CA Posts: 1,454	What do you guys think this thing is worth? __________________ 1969 Chevy Project SWB Fleet, 20s, 5.3, t56, in the weeds. 1970 Chevy Truck cab on a 1979 Jimmy frame-8.1 liter 496 bbc/sm465/np203-jeds doubler-np205/d60/14bff Welded/42 tsls on recentered H1s 1998 Chevy Crew Cab K3500 SAS'd with hpd60, links and swayaway coilovers. 8.1l vortec DD/towrig "I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me. "

01-21-2003, 09:02 AM	#8
Blazer1970 Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Old Mission, MI, USA Posts: 2,507	It is not an SM465, they have PTO covers on both sides. It should be an SM420, but I am not sure from looking at it. __________________ Tim

01-21-2003, 03:51 PM	#9
jays68yak Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Gilroy, CA Posts: 1,454	Some guy offered me $100 for the tranny and bellhousing plus shipping. Should I take it and run? __________________ 1969 Chevy Project SWB Fleet, 20s, 5.3, t56, in the weeds. 1970 Chevy Truck cab on a 1979 Jimmy frame-8.1 liter 496 bbc/sm465/np203-jeds doubler-np205/d60/14bff Welded/42 tsls on recentered H1s 1998 Chevy Crew Cab K3500 SAS'd with hpd60, links and swayaway coilovers. 8.1l vortec DD/towrig "I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me. "

01-21-2003, 04:04 PM	#10
Blazer1970 Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Old Mission, MI, USA Posts: 2,507	He might be pissed if he thinks he is getting a 465. __________________ Tim

01-21-2003, 04:23 PM	#11
jays68yak Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Gilroy, CA Posts: 1,454	No I told him what I think it is and I showed him the site. I think he knew before I did that it wasnt a SM465. I just dont know what a fair price is for it, no matter what it is. __________________ 1969 Chevy Project SWB Fleet, 20s, 5.3, t56, in the weeds. 1970 Chevy Truck cab on a 1979 Jimmy frame-8.1 liter 496 bbc/sm465/np203-jeds doubler-np205/d60/14bff Welded/42 tsls on recentered H1s 1998 Chevy Crew Cab K3500 SAS'd with hpd60, links and swayaway coilovers. 8.1l vortec DD/towrig "I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me. "

01-21-2003, 05:12 PM	#12
Blazer1970 Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Old Mission, MI, USA Posts: 2,507	Then I think $100 is a pretty fair price. You might get as much as $200 if and when you find someone that REALLY wants it, but that's your decision. Personally, I would get rid of it. __________________ Tim

01-21-2003, 07:37 PM	#13
truckman32 AND HOLDING ON TO THE C10 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: MT.STERLING,KY Posts: 390	take they money and run i can get that same trany at a junk yard for $50 is it granny gear it looks like the same trany that went with the old rusted truck i sold to a junk yard last year it was a granny gear __________________ 66 swb/ss chevy c10 SOLD 62 swb/fs chevy c10 :p SOLD 84 swb/fs chevy c10 91 sdime 383/th350

09-17-2012, 04:05 PM	#14
Billett Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Pittsgrove, NJ Posts: 1,502	Re: Tranny Id Help Please 10 years later can anyone help me? Reverse is right and down, up and left is a granny gear. Before this thread I thought I had an sm465... My research says it may be a new process 435 __________________ Will 1968 C10 - Project Texa Go 6.0/4L80e 2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 2002 Ford Excursion 7.3L 2024 Toyota Sienna

09-24-2012, 08:19 PM	#15
Billett Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Pittsgrove, NJ Posts: 1,502	Re: Tranny Id Help Please Can anyone confirm this is a NP435? I'm pretty positive at this point, since a few of them were put into 67-72 trucks, but any more info would help. __________________ Will 1968 C10 - Project Texa Go 6.0/4L80e 2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 2002 Ford Excursion 7.3L 2024 Toyota Sienna



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09-24-2012, 09:40 PM	#16
yuccales Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Location: Northern Calif. Posts: 3,777	Re: Tranny Id Help Please Sure looks like my NP435. That little "gear" cast into the case, I think is a New Process insignia.

09-24-2012, 11:53 PM	#17
Billett Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Pittsgrove, NJ Posts: 1,502	Re: Tranny Id Help Please Any idea how rare this option is? I can't seem to find out much about them on chevy's __________________ Will 1968 C10 - Project Texa Go 6.0/4L80e 2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 2002 Ford Excursion 7.3L 2024 Toyota Sienna

09-25-2012, 03:50 PM	#18
yuccales Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Location: Northern Calif. Posts: 3,777	Re: Tranny Id Help Please I don't know how rare they are. I do know mine came with the truck in 69, as I bought it from the original owner. My SPID calls it a CR trans. It has 197 thousand miles on it & still works perfect.

09-25-2012, 06:13 PM	#19
longbed67 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Monroe, WI Posts: 1,415	Re: Tranny Id Help Please I have both a 465 and a 435. I am putting the 435 in my build and that is most definitely a NP435! $100 is a fair price. I paid $175 plus shipping for mine and it came with the bellhousing. __________________ *Adam* My 1967 C10 - Turbo 250 Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=485843 (608) 214-8706

09-26-2012, 10:43 AM	#20
Billett Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Pittsgrove, NJ Posts: 1,502	Re: Tranny Id Help Please Thanks guys! Mine came with the truck too. I wish I could check my SPID, but the PO decided to spray bomb over it... __________________ Will 1968 C10 - Project Texa Go 6.0/4L80e 2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 2002 Ford Excursion 7.3L 2024 Toyota Sienna

09-26-2012, 01:56 PM	#21
longbed67 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Monroe, WI Posts: 1,415	Re: Tranny Id Help Please acetone should remove the spray bomb, and if your CAREFUL you wont damage the spid __________________ *Adam* My 1967 C10 - Turbo 250 Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=485843 (608) 214-8706

09-26-2012, 04:08 PM	#22
kwmech Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colfax-California Posts: 8,650	Re: Tranny Id Help Please In about a month I'm gonna pull the 435 out of my 68 and put in a 465 with a ranger overdrive unit and regear the rear axle. I'm preferring the granny gear in the 465 as opposed to the 4-1 ratio in the 435. I'm sure the 465 will be a little quieter also

09-27-2012, 07:22 AM	#24
OhioDan Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New Carlisle, Ohio,USA Posts: 1,404	Re: Tranny Id Help Please Does this help? Notice the difference in the case around the shifter on the 435 and the 465. Attached Images __________________ LIFE AIN'T EASY WHEN YER FAT AND GREASY! GMC= Got More Class! 1970 GMC LWB, Fleetside, 350/4spd, Flowmaster "40's", 2002 GMC 16" Rallies, cowl hood,and added a bunch of options that weren't there when I started.

09-27-2012, 07:53 AM	#25
jjzepplin Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ruskin Florida Posts: 4,567	Re: Tranny Id Help Please Wow-a ten year old thread. I cannot remember exactly why but I was on a six year old thread and mods closed it on me sayin they could not believe a six year old thread got bumped..It was about putting delays in the wiper switch. I found through pm's that this was still possible and a guy here named Putter can still do it to original switches. Don't know why they close threads but a lot of good info is lost. SOO ten years later you may have found the answer. Hope the mods don't close this one cause that's some good stuff! __________________ 70 swb 4x4 406sbc 700r4 203/205 d60/14blt locker yadda yadda http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...88#post6935688 Yeller 72 Blazer 2wd conversion project "No Daggum Money" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=550804 LS1-T56 3.73 LSD super budget build Blanco-2014 Sierra SWB https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=810350

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