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*vegaschevy* · 11-18-2009, 05:48 PM

I stopped by Checker auto and purchased some Moog Inner and outer Tie rods, Adjuster Sleeves, and Lower Ball Joints.
Opened up all the boxes and one of the outer Tie rods was a painted black chinese piece. It was brand new, but someone must have returned chinese pieces in moog boxes to get a cheap set of Moog units.

no big deal they ordered me another one and I am picking it up in a bit.

anyone else have this happen?

LOW DOUGH · 11-18-2009, 06:04 PM

I work at Auto Zone part time and have seen regular air filters in K&N boxes. The criminal would switch the filters in the box and pay for an STP w/ a K&N in it.

So, now I check every filter box at checkout.

I have seen all kinds of things like this.

Oh, that looks like fun right there. Lots of new parts!!

**Dieselwrencher** · 11-18-2009, 06:15 PM

I haven't had that problem before. I bet you're right. Someone did the ol switcheroo!

chevy_mike · 11-18-2009, 06:45 PM

Had that happen with a brake rotor. Guy at Autozone pulls the box, I open it up and it was a rusty, well used rotor.

Hummm... I am seeing a trend with Autozone. Maybe the clerks should actually check the parts being returned...

*vegaschevy* · 11-18-2009, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chevy_mike

Had that happen with a brake rotor. Guy at Autozone pulls the box, I open it up and it was a rusty, well used rotor.

Hummm... I am seeing a trend with Autozone. Maybe the clerks should actually check the parts being returned...

you know, I dont think that it would do any good. Alot of people would probably not know the difference between a moog and a chinese part or vice versus.

71meangreenc10 · 11-18-2009, 07:40 PM

Honest people are becoming extinct.......

Smitty

*vegaschevy* · 11-18-2009, 10:31 PM

Picked up the other outer tie rod... MOOG it was

**lolife99** · 11-18-2009, 11:22 PM

Make sure you throw some paint on those Moog parts or they will be rusty in a year.
I got in a hurry on my blazer and regret it now.

silverstreak · 11-19-2009, 02:17 AM

I try to buy Moog stuff whenever I can also. I also try to stick with Bendix brake parts but I got a Bendix wheel cylinder the other day that had a "made in China" sticker right on the box.

Lugnut64052 · 11-21-2009, 10:45 AM

Heck, that's pretty common in any parts chain. I've worked in parts stores a couple of different times through the years, and getting dead stuff back as a new return, or cheap parts in the good boxes, etc, was commonplace. We had rules in the stores that you would check every box coming back in. People would also come in and buy a special tool off the rack out front, go use it, then bring it back as a return.

It also happened through direct sales to repair shops. We had an air conditioner compressor come back as a core one day from a shop, or so we thought. We processed it through, sent it back to the warehouse, then the warehouse sent it on to the rebuilder. The rebuilder opened it up and found a brick. Up to that point no one had opened up the box to check.

Like 71meangreenc10 said, honest people are becoming extinct.

unclewatts · 11-21-2009, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lugnut64052

Heck, that's pretty common in any parts chain. I've worked in parts stores a couple of different times through the years, and getting dead stuff back as a new return, or cheap parts in the good boxes, etc, was commonplace. We had rules in the stores that you would check every box coming back in. People would also come in and buy a special tool off the rack out front, go use it, then bring it back as a return.

It also happened through direct sales to repair shops. We had an air conditioner compressor come back as a core one day from a shop, or so we thought. We processed it through, sent it back to the warehouse, then the warehouse sent it on to the rebuilder. The rebuilder opened it up and found a brick. Up to that point no one had opened up the box to check.

Like 71meangreenc10 said, honest people are becoming extinct.

I love that! Geeze! Is nothing sacred anymore?

grancuda · 11-22-2009, 12:14 AM

I worked at a Crow-Burlingame back about 8 years ago and we had a local mechanics shop buy parts from us for all his jobs and he would always end up bringing them back about 2 weeks later and we finnally found out he was somehow buying the same brand part at online for less. We always really looked over the parts really well and the majority of the time they were the same. It was a real pain because he would bring in more that $3000 in parts all at one time. The manager finnally told him no more returns.

**FRENCHBLUE72** · 11-22-2009, 11:20 AM

Nice I had that happen a few times now I just go to the local mom and pop store and get the correct parts the 1st time..

dznucks · 11-23-2009, 08:35 AM

vegaschevy,

What year truck do you have? Can you post the MOOG part numbers of the inner/outer tie rod and sleeve?

spyder4560 · 11-23-2009, 10:04 PM

Here's a head scratcher for you.Following the Autozone theme,I just recently sent my nephew to pick up some rear brakes for a '71 and he gets back to my house and I open the box to find used brakes.Needless to say,I get back to the parts place and this guy reams me for trying to "Pull a fast one on him",but he goes for another set and when he opens the box,guess what he sees?More used brake shoes in a new box.He pulls out a third set before he finds new ones.I said to him that I was the one who was out two trips to his store,so could he cut me a deal and let me have them for cost,he said that IS my cost.I left with my returned money and not so much as an apology for my lost time.What a way to keep good costumers!

*vegaschevy* · 11-24-2009, 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dznucks

vegaschevy,

What year truck do you have? Can you post the MOOG part numbers of the inner/outer tie rod and sleeve?

As soon as I get home in the morning. I work till 9

69C10@16 · 11-24-2009, 03:24 AM

I work for O'Reilly's and it is NOT uncommon at all. I check EVERY box at point of sale AND return. It makes a lot of customers angry when you check the box of the returning parts because "I'm honest I wouldn't ever try to screw you". Well folks, don't take it personally because I don't know you other than you're another customer that walked in the door. The worst part is when our warehouse gets an old part as a new return they throw it back at the store and the store takes the hit and we get in trouble. It's actually less work to open every single box no matter who it is or what they're buying/returning.

67ChevyRedneck · 11-24-2009, 03:38 AM

This has happened to me a couple of times, especially with brakes and starters. I open every box now before I leave the store.

68C15 · 11-24-2009, 07:37 AM

what's even more frustrating is when you call for a set of calipers. then you open the box to find they are both driver's side.

eseaton · 11-24-2009, 10:01 AM

I work for Autozone and that crap happens all the time, people do get pissed when you check the boxes when they come in. I hate it when I go pull a part and it is used, the good thing for me is I can go see who did the last returns and chew somebodys butt.

QKENUF4U · 11-24-2009, 11:16 AM

since we are on the discussion of SCREWING PEOPLE OVER....
had a friend that works at at motorcycle shop tell me this one....
guy brings in a CR500 he wants to trade/sell,
all the techs are to busy to come up to check it out
so the salesman goes out and checks it over, bike looks good,
has good compression but wont start.......(remember that part)
so salesman does the deal , guy leaves, salesman pushes bike back to tech to check out and see why it wont start,
tech kicks n kicks n kicks n kicks n kicks...
pulls plug and notices green stuff on it ,
pulls head and finds a TENNIS BALL ON TOP OF THE PISTON !!!!

*vegaschevy* · 11-24-2009, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QKENUF4U

since we are on the discussion of SCREWING PEOPLE OVER....
had a friend that works at at motorcycle shop tell me this one....
guy brings in a CR500 he wants to trade/sell,
all the techs are to busy to come up to check it out
so the salesman goes out and checks it over, bike looks good,
has good compression but wont start.......(remember that part)
so salesman does the deal , guy leaves, salesman pushes bike back to tech to check out and see why it wont start,
tech kicks n kicks n kicks n kicks n kicks...
pulls plug and notices green stuff on it ,
pulls head and finds a TENNIS BALL ON TOP OF THE PISTON !!!!

I wonder if that would even up the compression at all, I think the tennis ball is about an inch smaller then a cr500 piston

woodridge · 11-24-2009, 06:01 PM

Ever tried to compress a tennis ball? We did rear brakes on a G-Marqis a while back and the park brake shoes had come unbonded. Ordered a set from the parts house (major retailer) opened the box and there was a set of used shoes in there. Thing was, being park brake shoes, there was no wear on them. That is one time I think we came out ahead, I'll take a nearly new OE part over a aftermarket any day. Even told the customer what had happened and gave him a warrenty anyway.

11-18-2009, 05:48 PM	#1
vegaschevy Account Suspended Join Date: May 2009 Location: las vegas nv Posts: 1,493	bought some Moog parts, got chinese!! I stopped by Checker auto and purchased some Moog Inner and outer Tie rods, Adjuster Sleeves, and Lower Ball Joints. Opened up all the boxes and one of the outer Tie rods was a painted black chinese piece. It was brand new, but someone must have returned chinese pieces in moog boxes to get a cheap set of Moog units. no big deal they ordered me another one and I am picking it up in a bit. anyone else have this happen?

11-18-2009, 06:04 PM	#2
LOW DOUGH I'M TRUCK CRAZY! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sachse, TEXAS Posts: 1,737	Re: bought some Moog parts, got chinese!! I work at Auto Zone part time and have seen regular air filters in K&N boxes. The criminal would switch the filters in the box and pay for an STP w/ a K&N in it. So, now I check every filter box at checkout. I have seen all kinds of things like this. Oh, that looks like fun right there. Lots of new parts!! Last edited by LOW DOUGH; 11-18-2009 at 06:05 PM.

11-18-2009, 06:15 PM	#3
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11-18-2009, 10:31 PM	#7
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Lugnut64052 Middle-aged Curmudgeon Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Independence, MO Posts: 753	Re: bought some Moog parts, got chinese!! Heck, that's pretty common in any parts chain. I've worked in parts stores a couple of different times through the years, and getting dead stuff back as a new return, or cheap parts in the good boxes, etc, was commonplace. We had rules in the stores that you would check every box coming back in. People would also come in and buy a special tool off the rack out front, go use it, then bring it back as a return. It also happened through direct sales to repair shops. We had an air conditioner compressor come back as a core one day from a shop, or so we thought. We processed it through, sent it back to the warehouse, then the warehouse sent it on to the rebuilder. The rebuilder opened it up and found a brick. Up to that point no one had opened up the box to check. Like 71meangreenc10 said, honest people are becoming extinct. __________________ Bret Check out the site's Truck Tech FAQ. Be a site supporter. My more-or-less pathetic build thread. Board members I've met: ------------------------------ Longhorn Man Dieselwrencher jholley big mike71

11-22-2009, 12:14 AM	#12
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11-23-2009, 08:35 AM	#14
dznucks Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Smyrna, Ga Posts: 1,647	Re: bought some Moog parts, got chinese!! vegaschevy, What year truck do you have? Can you post the MOOG part numbers of the inner/outer tie rod and sleeve?

11-23-2009, 10:04 PM	#15
spyder4560 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Danville,Kentucky Posts: 55	Re: bought some Moog parts, got chinese!! Here's a head scratcher for you.Following the Autozone theme,I just recently sent my nephew to pick up some rear brakes for a '71 and he gets back to my house and I open the box to find used brakes.Needless to say,I get back to the parts place and this guy reams me for trying to "Pull a fast one on him",but he goes for another set and when he opens the box,guess what he sees?More used brake shoes in a new box.He pulls out a third set before he finds new ones.I said to him that I was the one who was out two trips to his store,so could he cut me a deal and let me have them for cost,he said that IS my cost.I left with my returned money and not so much as an apology for my lost time.What a way to keep good costumers! Last edited by spyder4560; 11-23-2009 at 10:06 PM.

11-24-2009, 03:24 AM	#17
69C10@16 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Greenfield, MO Posts: 215	Re: bought some Moog parts, got chinese!! I work for O'Reilly's and it is NOT uncommon at all. I check EVERY box at point of sale AND return. It makes a lot of customers angry when you check the box of the returning parts because "I'm honest I wouldn't ever try to screw you". Well folks, don't take it personally because I don't know you other than you're another customer that walked in the door. The worst part is when our warehouse gets an old part as a new return they throw it back at the store and the store takes the hit and we get in trouble. It's actually less work to open every single box no matter who it is or what they're buying/returning.

11-24-2009, 03:38 AM	#18
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11-24-2009, 07:37 AM	#19
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11-24-2009, 10:01 AM	#20
eseaton Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Amarillo, TX Posts: 190	Re: bought some Moog parts, got chinese!! I work for Autozone and that crap happens all the time, people do get pissed when you check the boxes when they come in. I hate it when I go pull a part and it is used, the good thing for me is I can go see who did the last returns and chew somebodys butt. __________________ 67 GMC SW 383 stroker/TH350 w/ 4.56 gears - under construction 04 GMC 1/2ton daily 07 GMC Acadia wifes daily

11-24-2009, 11:16 AM	#21
QKENUF4U Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: SUNNY WARM BIKE RIDING COTTONWOOD ARIZONA Posts: 2,097	Re: bought some Moog parts, got chinese!! since we are on the discussion of SCREWING PEOPLE OVER.... had a friend that works at at motorcycle shop tell me this one.... guy brings in a CR500 he wants to trade/sell, all the techs are to busy to come up to check it out so the salesman goes out and checks it over, bike looks good, has good compression but wont start.......(remember that part) so salesman does the deal , guy leaves, salesman pushes bike back to tech to check out and see why it wont start, tech kicks n kicks n kicks n kicks n kicks... pulls plug and notices green stuff on it , pulls head and finds a TENNIS BALL ON TOP OF THE PISTON !!!!

11-24-2009, 06:01 PM	#23
woodridge Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Maynardville, Tn Posts: 3,030	Re: bought some Moog parts, got chinese!! Ever tried to compress a tennis ball? We did rear brakes on a G-Marqis a while back and the park brake shoes had come unbonded. Ordered a set from the parts house (major retailer) opened the box and there was a set of used shoes in there. Thing was, being park brake shoes, there was no wear on them. That is one time I think we came out ahead, I'll take a nearly new OE part over a aftermarket any day. Even told the customer what had happened and gave him a warrenty anyway. __________________ SEMA Network- Protect our Hobby! 71 C30 in pieces, starting to come together. Click here for A Place For Tennessee Truck Enthusiest To Meet

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