250 ci integral/non-integral head - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

ges55 · 11-25-2009, 10:11 AM

Can anyone tell me if there were certains years that these were used? Thanks in advance for the help.

mbgmike · 11-25-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ges55

Can anyone tell me if there were certains years that these were used? Thanks in advance for the help.

I know the 84's had the integral

69GMCLonghorn · 11-25-2009, 03:06 PM

'Splain this to me... I'm not familiar with this...

mbgmike · 11-25-2009, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 69GMCLonghorn

'Splain this to me... I'm not familiar with this...

easy to explain with photo

first Non-Integral head

second is integral from 1979 to 1985 250 cid

Photos courtesy of Fliteline Engine Supply

ges55 · 11-25-2009, 03:34 PM

Great job! Thanks for the info & pix!

Wrenchbender Ret · 11-25-2009, 04:30 PM

They came out with the intregal intake manifold in 1975. On 250 engines. It seems all the trucks used it but a lot of the cars like Camero's & Malibu's still used the old style.

ges55 · 11-25-2009, 04:42 PM

Thanks. I'm looking to put power steering on my 67 C20 & I'm researching what I need. I guess the pump brackets are different on the integrated vs the non-integrated.

mbgmike · 11-25-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Wrenchbender Ret

They came out with the intregal intake manifold in 1975. On 250 engines. It seems all the trucks used it but a lot of the cars like Camero's & Malibu's still used the old style.

You are right
The 75-79 are even different then the 79 to 85

PanelDeland · 11-25-2009, 05:03 PM

IIRC someone on here modified a set of Integeral head brackets to work on a non-integeral head engine.I wish I could remember who but maybe they will chime in.I think it was fairly simple to do but don't recall what was involved.
Just for info the brackets are the same for all vehicles.They are either integeral or non but may be in a Nova,Camaro, or other Chevy with the 6 and proper head.

ges55 · 11-25-2009, 08:22 PM

Thanks. This is the kind of info I need.

mbgmike · 11-25-2009, 10:55 PM

We will help you out the best we can.We just sell parts. An informed customer is a good customer

PanelDeland · 11-25-2009, 11:00 PM

Look for posts by NC67chevy.He has been researching this also and has had some good responses to his questions.Some of the info he got may help.
Also be advised that the 67 probably doesn't have the dimple in the frame for the PS box.You will need to either space the box away from the frame or heat and hammer a clearance dimple in order to mount a PS box.If you can find a 68 up truck to look at you will see the difference.

11-25-2009, 10:11 AM	#1
ges55 BLACK SATIN Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: canton, IL Posts: 266	250 ci integral/non-integral head Can anyone tell me if there were certains years that these were used? Thanks in advance for the help. __________________ 67 C10 Fleetside LWB-283, 3 on the tree,power assisted steering, father-in-law bought it new 67 C20 Fleetside LWB-'85 305 V8 (original was 250 6 cyl), Holley 600 carb, full length Hedman headers, dual exhaust behind the back wheels, 4 spd , manual steering 85 C10 Silverado- 305ci

11-25-2009, 03:06 PM	#3
69GMCLonghorn Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Porter Ranch, CA Posts: 978	Re: 250 ci integral/non-integral head 'Splain this to me... I'm not familiar with this...

11-25-2009, 03:34 PM	#5
ges55 BLACK SATIN Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: canton, IL Posts: 266	Re: 250 ci integral/non-integral head Great job! Thanks for the info & pix! __________________ 67 C10 Fleetside LWB-283, 3 on the tree,power assisted steering, father-in-law bought it new 67 C20 Fleetside LWB-'85 305 V8 (original was 250 6 cyl), Holley 600 carb, full length Hedman headers, dual exhaust behind the back wheels, 4 spd , manual steering 85 C10 Silverado- 305ci

11-25-2009, 04:30 PM	#6
Wrenchbender Ret Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Overland Park, Ks. Posts: 5,229	Re: 250 ci integral/non-integral head They came out with the intregal intake manifold in 1975. On 250 engines. It seems all the trucks used it but a lot of the cars like Camero's & Malibu's still used the old style.

11-25-2009, 04:42 PM	#7
ges55 BLACK SATIN Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: canton, IL Posts: 266	Re: 250 ci integral/non-integral head Thanks. I'm looking to put power steering on my 67 C20 & I'm researching what I need. I guess the pump brackets are different on the integrated vs the non-integrated. __________________ 67 C10 Fleetside LWB-283, 3 on the tree,power assisted steering, father-in-law bought it new 67 C20 Fleetside LWB-'85 305 V8 (original was 250 6 cyl), Holley 600 carb, full length Hedman headers, dual exhaust behind the back wheels, 4 spd , manual steering 85 C10 Silverado- 305ci

11-25-2009, 05:03 PM	#9
PanelDeland I am a Referee of life. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Greensboro N.C. Posts: 13,992	Re: 250 ci integral/non-integral head IIRC someone on here modified a set of Integeral head brackets to work on a non-integeral head engine.I wish I could remember who but maybe they will chime in.I think it was fairly simple to do but don't recall what was involved. Just for info the brackets are the same for all vehicles.They are either integeral or non but may be in a Nova,Camaro, or other Chevy with the 6 and proper head. __________________ The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion. You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape. "My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!" Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold! "You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck" "Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult' "Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil" Last edited by PanelDeland; 11-25-2009 at 05:04 PM.

11-25-2009, 08:22 PM	#10
ges55 BLACK SATIN Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: canton, IL Posts: 266	Re: 250 ci integral/non-integral head Thanks. This is the kind of info I need. __________________ 67 C10 Fleetside LWB-283, 3 on the tree,power assisted steering, father-in-law bought it new 67 C20 Fleetside LWB-'85 305 V8 (original was 250 6 cyl), Holley 600 carb, full length Hedman headers, dual exhaust behind the back wheels, 4 spd , manual steering 85 C10 Silverado- 305ci

11-25-2009, 10:55 PM	#11
mbgmike Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pasadena,Tx /Pto Pta DR Posts: 5,415	Re: 250 ci integral/non-integral head We will help you out the best we can.We just sell parts. An informed customer is a good customer

11-25-2009, 11:00 PM	#12
PanelDeland I am a Referee of life. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Greensboro N.C. Posts: 13,992	Re: 250 ci integral/non-integral head Look for posts by NC67chevy.He has been researching this also and has had some good responses to his questions.Some of the info he got may help. Also be advised that the 67 probably doesn't have the dimple in the frame for the PS box.You will need to either space the box away from the frame or heat and hammer a clearance dimple in order to mount a PS box.If you can find a 68 up truck to look at you will see the difference. __________________ The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion. You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape. "My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!" Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold! "You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck" "Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult' "Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil"



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