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Old 12-15-2009, 11:20 AM   #1
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4x4 brake problem

I have a 1973 Chevrolet 1/2 ton 4x4 with 44 inch tall tires. It has a new master cylender, and power brakes. The truck has front disc and rear drums. I have put a new brake valve and a new front disk calaper. The truck won't stop like it should. If you push the brakes to the floor the back will lock up but the front don't seem to help the truck stop any. I have tryed the truck on stock 35 inch tires and the truck still doesn't stop good. Does any one know what the problem void be. I have already changed out A few lines, flushed the system with new fluid, and have bled the system several times
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:21 PM   #2
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Re: 4x4 brake problem

What are the condition of your rotors and pads? Sometimes over the years the pads become too hard and do not provide enough friction against the disk.
I would also make sure that you have the right proportioning valve for he disc/drum brakes.
With 44's and what I am assuming is 1/2 ton brakes you are not going to be able to stop too well anyway, but I am sure that you know this. You might be better off doing an axle swap to a set of one tons so you can get sronger axles and bigger brakes.
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Old 12-16-2009, 10:38 AM   #3
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Re: 4x4 brake problem

I redid my brake pads one time and the guy in the parts store talked me into get the metalic pads. I tried them and my truck wouldn't stop for crap with them. I went back to the old cheap ones and everything was just fine. Not sure why but it did make a big difference.

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Old 12-16-2009, 11:55 AM   #4
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Re: 4x4 brake problem

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I redid my brake pads one time and the guy in the parts store talked me into get the metalic pads. I tried them and my truck wouldn't stop for crap with them. I went back to the old cheap ones and everything was just fine. Not sure why but it did make a big difference.
Yea I have heard that as well from a few of my buddies. Don't know why but I have never bought anything other then what I have always run. I would at least upgrade the axles to 1 tons or 3/4 running 44"s JMHO!
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Old 12-16-2009, 04:36 PM   #5
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Re: 4x4 brake problem

Are both front calipers actually working? (you said you changed one, what about the other?) Is it the correct prop valve?

If you can push the brakes "to the floor" and the rears work, sounds like you may still have air in the lines. (assuming the MC and brake booster are "good". New doesn't always equal good)
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Old 12-16-2009, 06:43 PM   #6
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Re: 4x4 brake problem

Check the front flexible rubber brake lines and make sure they are not clogged or swelled, rusted, shut, causing no fluid flow to the calipers.
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Old 12-16-2009, 08:30 PM   #7
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Re: 4x4 brake problem

You are asking waay to much from those little tiny brakes, but they should still function.
I am willing to bet that the proportioning valve is "popped" and there is not pressure going to the front at all. This is very common when changing master cylinders or after a line failure.

Is the brake light on?

I would remove a caliper from the rotor and push to pedal (slowly) to confirm movement before doing anything else.
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