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fla wildman · 01-26-2010, 11:37 PM

what is the biggest tire I can use with 4:56 gears on 1ton axels 350 motor 400 turbo 203 trans. case

onlyifihadachevy · 01-27-2010, 12:35 AM

The 10 footers Bigfoot ran.

We could use more info.

mudmizer · 01-27-2010, 01:40 AM

1 ton axles? I assume a 14 bolt rear, but is the front a D60 or just a D44 with eight lugs? 1 tons came with both in the front, I believe the D44 is the most likely in a normal 1 ton, the 44 is much weaker and will make a difference in how strong your front axle is. If it's a D60 front then I don't think you'll have any trouble with 44s and a bit bigger, but the gears will start to feel it. I feel like the weak spot in your setup is the 203 case. JMO.

**Dieselwrencher** · 01-27-2010, 05:48 PM

The biggest problem with the 203 might be the chain. I have seen nud boggers beat 203's for years and they live longer than the 205's. I'm guessing it is because the chain in the 203's absorb some shock load where as the 205's break parts because it is direct out. I'd say that if you have a D60 in the front you could run 44's. It doesn't matter what tire you put on it because things break no matter what.

fla wildman · 01-27-2010, 07:45 PM

The front is a 60 and the back is a 70 I thank, was told by the 4x4 shop years ago;that the axels were bigger than a 60 so do not know what that would be.the front and rear end came out of a 78 1ton that came from the gov. so you never know what it would be but I know there big. My biggest thing is not to put too big of a tire on it. I do wont it to get out of its own way.And I was told that the trans.case was gear to gear but have never opened it up to see.I know that a 205 is have had one apart but the 203 is bigger than my 205 I have so I thought it would have to be gear drive too.I do know the truck it came out of was full time 4x4 and my father had to add the lock out hubbs to it.

onlyifihadachevy · 01-27-2010, 08:51 PM

203 is a chain drive, hint the full-time auto. What will this trck be used for, and size lift. And what do you mean by I do wont it to get out of its own way.

fla wildman · 01-27-2010, 09:25 PM

no lift yet and by get out of its own way wont it to have power. I hate when some one puts 44's on a truck then has to drive it in low to get around

fun in dirt · 01-28-2010, 11:23 AM

38s would be a good size.

fla wildman · 01-28-2010, 09:25 PM

Thats around the size I was going for

sbc383rulz · 02-03-2010, 02:40 AM

The axles out of CUCV's (military chevy's) are 14 bolt rear (usually with a locker) and Dana60 front (usually a posi) there are undoubtedly some variations. i agree with 38's

fla wildman · 02-03-2010, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbc383rulz

The axles out of CUCV's (military chevy's) are 14 bolt rear (usually with a locker) and Dana60 front (usually a posi) there are undoubtedly some variations. i agree with 38's

Ya thats whats in this truck the only odd thing is the front is a 4:10 and the rear is a 4:56 ever herd of that

onlyifihadachevy · 02-03-2010, 09:07 PM

Yea someone swapped in the front axle, is it a dana 44? And don't lock in 4wheel drive, unless your in the mud even then I wouldnt want to lock in.

shilo · 02-03-2010, 09:12 PM

the standard cucv had open fronts. the radio units and ambulances had front trac loks. And i dont ever recall a 1 ton chev with a front dana 44. Its pretty easy to find out exactly what you have just by looking at it. Google a pic for a 205, easy to identify. same with a front 60 and 14 bolt rear.

A 60/14 bolt combo will handle 44's if your easy on the go pedal and arnt packin a bunch of power

fla wildman · 02-03-2010, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onlyifihadachevy

Yea someone swapped in the front axle, is it a dana 44? And don't lock in 4wheel drive, unless your in the mud even then I wouldnt want to lock in.

The front end has not been changed my father got the truck from a Gov. auction. And we never changed it and have had the truck in 4wd. On and off road all the time worked fine. Have the tranny and t-case in the 1/2 ton truck now and it has the same grears front and rear. If I'm not in sloppy mud the front and rear fights its self. Thats why I'm going to put the 1ton running gear in my stepside. So I can use the 4wd and that why I thank I'm stuck with 4:56 gear. Unless I change the tranny and t-case out out.

shilo · 02-03-2010, 10:24 PM

now im confused. Try proof reading your post before posting it. you are hard to follow. sorry.

No truck came factory with 4.10 and 4.56 gears

01-26-2010, 11:37 PM	#1
fla wildman Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: st.cloud fla Posts: 76	tires what is the biggest tire I can use with 4:56 gears on 1ton axels 350 motor 400 turbo 203 trans. case __________________ 83 Chevy 4x4 stepside was a 6.2 stick now 350 auto 86 Cutlass with built 350 street/strip car 85 K5 all stock 2006 F250 6.0 the puller 69 c10 soon to be k30 too far gone to fix

01-27-2010, 12:35 AM	#2
onlyifihadachevy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: seaside,ca Posts: 778	Re: tires The 10 footers Bigfoot ran. We could use more info. __________________ 72 gmc 2500 2wd drive convert My 72 thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=346712 THe other truck, wheeler 69 1/2 4x4, yellow and rusty. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=350300

01-27-2010, 01:40 AM	#3
mudmizer Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bellingham, washington Posts: 260	Re: tires 1 ton axles? I assume a 14 bolt rear, but is the front a D60 or just a D44 with eight lugs? 1 tons came with both in the front, I believe the D44 is the most likely in a normal 1 ton, the 44 is much weaker and will make a difference in how strong your front axle is. If it's a D60 front then I don't think you'll have any trouble with 44s and a bit bigger, but the gears will start to feel it. I feel like the weak spot in your setup is the 203 case. JMO. __________________ 68 4x4, 454, 4 speed, disk brakes both ends, Sold my 69 SS396 Elcamino when young & stupid

01-27-2010, 05:48 PM	#4
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,140	Re: tires The biggest problem with the 203 might be the chain. I have seen nud boggers beat 203's for years and they live longer than the 205's. I'm guessing it is because the chain in the 203's absorb some shock load where as the 205's break parts because it is direct out. I'd say that if you have a D60 in the front you could run 44's. It doesn't matter what tire you put on it because things break no matter what. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

01-27-2010, 07:45 PM	#5
fla wildman Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: st.cloud fla Posts: 76	Re: tires The front is a 60 and the back is a 70 I thank, was told by the 4x4 shop years ago;that the axels were bigger than a 60 so do not know what that would be.the front and rear end came out of a 78 1ton that came from the gov. so you never know what it would be but I know there big. My biggest thing is not to put too big of a tire on it. I do wont it to get out of its own way.And I was told that the trans.case was gear to gear but have never opened it up to see.I know that a 205 is have had one apart but the 203 is bigger than my 205 I have so I thought it would have to be gear drive too.I do know the truck it came out of was full time 4x4 and my father had to add the lock out hubbs to it. __________________ 83 Chevy 4x4 stepside was a 6.2 stick now 350 auto 86 Cutlass with built 350 street/strip car 85 K5 all stock 2006 F250 6.0 the puller 69 c10 soon to be k30 too far gone to fix

01-27-2010, 08:51 PM	#6
onlyifihadachevy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: seaside,ca Posts: 778	Re: tires 203 is a chain drive, hint the full-time auto. What will this trck be used for, and size lift. And what do you mean by I do wont it to get out of its own way. __________________ 72 gmc 2500 2wd drive convert My 72 thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=346712 THe other truck, wheeler 69 1/2 4x4, yellow and rusty. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=350300

01-27-2010, 09:25 PM	#7
fla wildman Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: st.cloud fla Posts: 76	Re: tires no lift yet and by get out of its own way wont it to have power. I hate when some one puts 44's on a truck then has to drive it in low to get around __________________ 83 Chevy 4x4 stepside was a 6.2 stick now 350 auto 86 Cutlass with built 350 street/strip car 85 K5 all stock 2006 F250 6.0 the puller 69 c10 soon to be k30 too far gone to fix

01-28-2010, 11:23 AM	#8
fun in dirt Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,119	Re: tires 38s would be a good size. __________________ '72 C to K20 "Cannibalizer" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...32#post8653432 '85 K30 "Big Nassy" '06 3500 Duramax ...tow truck '06 Silverado SS...DD '06 C1500 WT...DD '07 Classic C1500 WT...DD Built & sold cause can't keep 'em all: '72 Blazer "The Bucket" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=433190 '55 Chevy straight axle gasser https://www.trifive.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173938 '69 Pro Street Chevelle http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332541 '86 M1031 CUCV http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=553619

01-28-2010, 09:25 PM	#9
fla wildman Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: st.cloud fla Posts: 76	Re: tires Thats around the size I was going for __________________ 83 Chevy 4x4 stepside was a 6.2 stick now 350 auto 86 Cutlass with built 350 street/strip car 85 K5 all stock 2006 F250 6.0 the puller 69 c10 soon to be k30 too far gone to fix

02-03-2010, 02:40 AM	#10
sbc383rulz Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Poulsbo washington Posts: 107	Re: tires The axles out of CUCV's (military chevy's) are 14 bolt rear (usually with a locker) and Dana60 front (usually a posi) there are undoubtedly some variations. i agree with 38's

02-03-2010, 09:07 PM	#12
onlyifihadachevy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: seaside,ca Posts: 778	Re: tires Yea someone swapped in the front axle, is it a dana 44? And don't lock in 4wheel drive, unless your in the mud even then I wouldnt want to lock in. __________________ 72 gmc 2500 2wd drive convert My 72 thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=346712 THe other truck, wheeler 69 1/2 4x4, yellow and rusty. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=350300

02-03-2010, 09:12 PM	#13
shilo Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grand Junction , CO Posts: 602	Re: tires the standard cucv had open fronts. the radio units and ambulances had front trac loks. And i dont ever recall a 1 ton chev with a front dana 44. Its pretty easy to find out exactly what you have just by looking at it. Google a pic for a 205, easy to identify. same with a front 60 and 14 bolt rear. A 60/14 bolt combo will handle 44's if your easy on the go pedal and arnt packin a bunch of power __________________ 71 swb 4x4, 37" Iroks, t400/205 496 77 CJ-7, Narrowed Dana 60 Lockrite, 14 Bolt Spool, 4.56 gears, 39.5" boggers. 360 t-18/d20

02-03-2010, 10:24 PM	#15
shilo Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grand Junction , CO Posts: 602	Re: tires now im confused. Try proof reading your post before posting it. you are hard to follow. sorry. No truck came factory with 4.10 and 4.56 gears __________________ 71 swb 4x4, 37" Iroks, t400/205 496 77 CJ-7, Narrowed Dana 60 Lockrite, 14 Bolt Spool, 4.56 gears, 39.5" boggers. 360 t-18/d20



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