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neba · 02-10-2010, 12:48 AM

new to this forum,could use some help.after waiting years for the right truck at the right time, i purchased a 69 longbed c10 a few weeks ago. everything was looking good till i noticed in a parts book that a 1/2 ton 2wd should have rear coil springs. mine has 5 leafs. this seems to match a 4wd. my concern is that the cab doesnt match the frame. would this be a title problem that could come back to haunt me? i found some numbers stamped in the frame below drivers door. 33935807-472 and 7-31-7. do these numbers have any meaning? should i be happy the truck looks nice or did i buy a problem.

extd56 · 02-10-2010, 01:11 AM

Is it a GMC? They came stock with leafs and a Chevy could be ordered with leafs with 2WD.

**too much stuff** · 02-10-2010, 01:46 AM

A c-10 could be had either way. Coils were standard on the chevys and leafs standard on the gmcs, but could be had either way. Does your title match the cab and glovebox ID tag?
And welcome from quite close to ya. Eric

neba · 02-10-2010, 02:16 AM

the title and door tag are CE149Z which matches a chevy 8cyl 1/2ton pickup 1969. the truck was part of an estate sale so info is limited.

C10-Driver · 02-10-2010, 02:38 AM

As others have said, leaf springs were available on both GMC and Chevy 2WD trucks... I have a SWB 2WD Chevy with leaf springs. As far as the number stamped on the frame, it won't match the VIN... There was only one VIN stamped on these trucks which is on the plate inside the driver's door opening. Also, as too_much_studd said, you will find the VIN is on the sticker inside the glovebox door but many of these are long gone after 40 years.

Welcome to the board!!!

extd56 · 02-10-2010, 09:39 AM

There is a partial vin on the drivers side frame by the steering box and also under the cab on most trucks. I believe it is like the last 6 numbers on the vin. My 67 GMC did not have a partial vin on the frame for some reason.

68gmsee · 02-10-2010, 10:39 AM

Could have been ordered or changed out. Some 15 yrs ago I saw a complete frame with leaf springs for sale here. Owner said it was from Chevy.

At least in my area, in those years farmers, ranchers and others using trucks for heavy hauling didn't like coil springs. They weren't used to them so they ordered with leaves or bought GMC's.

OhOneWS6 · 02-10-2010, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C10-Driver

...Also, as too_much_studd said,...

I know it's a typo but it's a funny one.

smithjm · 02-10-2010, 01:34 PM

I don't think you have anything to worry about.
I have (2) 71 GMC 1/2 tons. One has leafs and the other has coil springs.
They were both made in Atlanta 1800 trucks apart - the leaf spring truck being made first.

blyguy · 02-10-2010, 02:48 PM

hey c-10 driver, you mentioned that the vin on the frame wont match the door? is this true? i checked my 71 cst swb and the numbers on the frame are the same as the door. the last 8 of my vin.

msgross · 02-10-2010, 02:52 PM

the SN (not full VIN) can be found on the frame... mine is just to the rear of the steering box (as mentioned) on the top horizontal part of the frame, just outside the exhaust manifold.

**too much stuff** · 02-10-2010, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OhOneWS6

I know it's a typo but it's a funny one.

That is an honor. Nothing funny about it. I chuckled when i saw it also...

C10-Driver · 02-10-2010, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by too much stuff

That is an honor. Nothing funny about it. I chuckled when i saw it also...

Oops, I guess I should have checked my spelling first. Oh, well... You've now officially been called a studd on the internet... Could be worse.

Quote:

Originally Posted by blyguy

hey c-10 driver, you mentioned that the vin on the frame wont match the door? is this true? i checked my 71 cst swb and the numbers on the frame are the same as the door. the last 8 of my vin.

I guess mine doesn't match and had heard before that the frame stamping was not something that could be relied on. Good thing there are a lot of folks here with much more knowledge than I have.

neba · 02-10-2010, 07:14 PM

problem resolved. thanks to great advise, i found matching serial numbers stamped on frame by gearbox. now i can get rid of the 5 leafs plus 3 helper springs and get something that wont bounce me off of the seat. wonder what was hauled to need that kind of rear suspension. someday when it stops snowing i might be able to take it for a ride. thanks for all the help.

mjrmn · 02-10-2010, 09:01 PM

Welcome to the board froma fellow Minnesotan

dano1970 · 02-17-2010, 12:17 AM

I need help in decoding the vin stamped in plate driverside door frame

VIN CS1590 P C13661A

I have checked the LMC decoder page and could not decipher with any certainty
Thanks

jsmithbm · 02-17-2010, 12:36 AM

are you sure its not
ccs120A then the production unit. Just a wild guess on my part. My truck was missing the door plate and half of the spid, i had to wing it and then convince the police officer that was filling out my tag form. But got lucky they painted on the little blue sticker on the door jamb and i was able to scrape off the paint just after he left. LOL.
Sent you a pm....

Longhorn Man · 02-17-2010, 07:30 PM

dano... you should probably start your own thread... that looks like a GMC vin, correct?

02-10-2010, 12:48 AM	#1
neba Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: duluth mn Posts: 108	what did i buy? new to this forum,could use some help.after waiting years for the right truck at the right time, i purchased a 69 longbed c10 a few weeks ago. everything was looking good till i noticed in a parts book that a 1/2 ton 2wd should have rear coil springs. mine has 5 leafs. this seems to match a 4wd. my concern is that the cab doesnt match the frame. would this be a title problem that could come back to haunt me? i found some numbers stamped in the frame below drivers door. 33935807-472 and 7-31-7. do these numbers have any meaning? should i be happy the truck looks nice or did i buy a problem.

02-10-2010, 01:11 AM	#2
extd56 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Vacaville, CA Posts: 2,272	Re: what did i buy? Is it a GMC? They came stock with leafs and a Chevy could be ordered with leafs with 2WD.

02-10-2010, 01:46 AM	#3
too much stuff Roadtrip! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Grand Rapids MN Posts: 13,764	Re: what did i buy? A c-10 could be had either way. Coils were standard on the chevys and leafs standard on the gmcs, but could be had either way. Does your title match the cab and glovebox ID tag? And welcome from quite close to ya. Eric __________________ 67 gmc custom lwb dakota truck. Sold...And bought back 69 swb 4x4 project (in progress) 70 c-10 lwb texas truck 70 4x4/BB/bkts/posi/tach(retired) 70 swb (wifes) 70 jimmy camper 71 K-5 factory 2wd 71 cheyenne 4x4/tach/posi/ plow rig 71 Cheyenne20 BB, buckets, tach, tilt, 4 speed 72 jimmy CST wyoming rig 72 jimmy Colorado rig 72 lifted texas 4x4 3/4 ton burb 65 fury conv. 383/auto 65 chrysler 300 "L" 413 auto

02-10-2010, 02:16 AM	#4
neba Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: duluth mn Posts: 108	Re: what did i buy? the title and door tag are CE149Z which matches a chevy 8cyl 1/2ton pickup 1969. the truck was part of an estate sale so info is limited.

02-10-2010, 02:38 AM	#5
C10-Driver Chevy Truck Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 1,176	Re: what did i buy? As others have said, leaf springs were available on both GMC and Chevy 2WD trucks... I have a SWB 2WD Chevy with leaf springs. As far as the number stamped on the frame, it won't match the VIN... There was only one VIN stamped on these trucks which is on the plate inside the driver's door opening. Also, as too_much_studd said, you will find the VIN is on the sticker inside the glovebox door but many of these are long gone after 40 years. Welcome to the board!!! __________________ . 1970 Chev C/10 SWB, 355 SBC, 700R4, 3.73 Posi, Air Ride (Click to view Build Thread) (SOLD) 1978 Chevy C/10 SWB 1970 Pontiac Lemans .

02-10-2010, 09:39 AM	#6
extd56 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Vacaville, CA Posts: 2,272	Re: what did i buy? There is a partial vin on the drivers side frame by the steering box and also under the cab on most trucks. I believe it is like the last 6 numbers on the vin. My 67 GMC did not have a partial vin on the frame for some reason.

02-10-2010, 10:39 AM	#7
68gmsee Active Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Centrally located between Houston, Austin and Waco. BCS area. Posts: 7,947	Re: what did i buy? Could have been ordered or changed out. Some 15 yrs ago I saw a complete frame with leaf springs for sale here. Owner said it was from Chevy. At least in my area, in those years farmers, ranchers and others using trucks for heavy hauling didn't like coil springs. They weren't used to them so they ordered with leaves or bought GMC's.

02-10-2010, 01:34 PM	#9
smithjm Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pensacola,FL. Posts: 24	Re: what did i buy? I don't think you have anything to worry about. I have (2) 71 GMC 1/2 tons. One has leafs and the other has coil springs. They were both made in Atlanta 1800 trucks apart - the leaf spring truck being made first.

02-10-2010, 02:48 PM	#10
blyguy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Medicine Hat, Alberta, Canada Posts: 68	Re: what did i buy? hey c-10 driver, you mentioned that the vin on the frame wont match the door? is this true? i checked my 71 cst swb and the numbers on the frame are the same as the door. the last 8 of my vin.

02-10-2010, 02:52 PM	#11
msgross Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central PA Posts: 12,201	Re: what did i buy? the SN (not full VIN) can be found on the frame... mine is just to the rear of the steering box (as mentioned) on the top horizontal part of the frame, just outside the exhaust manifold. __________________ The Garage: 1968 K-10 SWB - "Project Money Pit" 1996 Z-71 - "huntin rig" 1969 C-10 LWB (SOLD) "Project flip that truck or else" 1993 Passport, F@rd 1-ton (SOLD)"Project Cousin Eddie" My Garage Build "The 1,000 footer"

02-10-2010, 07:14 PM	#14
neba Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: duluth mn Posts: 108	Re: what did i buy? problem resolved. thanks to great advise, i found matching serial numbers stamped on frame by gearbox. now i can get rid of the 5 leafs plus 3 helper springs and get something that wont bounce me off of the seat. wonder what was hauled to need that kind of rear suspension. someday when it stops snowing i might be able to take it for a ride. thanks for all the help.

02-10-2010, 09:01 PM	#15
mjrmn '67 K10 Work In Process Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Delano MN Posts: 163	Re: what did i buy? Welcome to the board froma fellow Minnesotan

02-17-2010, 12:17 AM	#16
dano1970 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Newnan Ga Posts: 5	Re: what did i buy? I need help in decoding the vin stamped in plate driverside door frame VIN CS1590 P C13661A I have checked the LMC decoder page and could not decipher with any certainty Thanks

02-17-2010, 12:36 AM	#17
jsmithbm Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Newnan, GA Posts: 485	Re: what did i buy? are you sure its not ccs120A then the production unit. Just a wild guess on my part. My truck was missing the door plate and half of the spid, i had to wing it and then convince the police officer that was filling out my tag form. But got lucky they painted on the little blue sticker on the door jamb and i was able to scrape off the paint just after he left. LOL. Sent you a pm.... __________________ Learning as I go! -------------------------------------

02-17-2010, 07:30 PM	#18
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: what did i buy? dano... you should probably start your own thread... that looks like a GMC vin, correct?



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