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cbrwags · 06-21-2010, 02:00 AM

Well I am trying to get all the bases covered on this swap so I can start. I want the truck to look stock and be able to stop/tow/drive great... I plan on boxing the frame all the way back and weld in x braces I am going to try to get a whole 2wd dodge pickup with a 12 valve or 24 valve in it, so I can use the rearend I dont know if I should 4 link or leaf? Leafs would be easyer I think. I will use the dodge fuel tank mounted under the bed. The suspension is going to be tricky to do for cheap, can I use 3/4 ton chevy arms and spindles along with the steering? will the a-arms bolt up to the 65 chevy c10?.I might try to use the dodge bakes I will need to look at what I get. I plan on using this as a daily driver and tow rig and depending how it goes, the strip. I think this will be a nice driver. I think I can get a motor, trans,rearend, for about $1500 I have done a few swaps before. What else do you think should be done to make this safe? I am looking for idea's and am not rich, and in no hurry. I am just looking for the swap truck, so in the down time looking for info.

raycow · 06-21-2010, 03:53 AM

OK, I'm a little slow here. Is the Dodge rear end 8 lug, and is that why you want 3/4 ton brakes on the front? Do you need/want to use the Dodge rear because of the gearing? If yes, it might be easier to go with a later GM rear. What ratio do you need?

Ray

cbrwags · 06-21-2010, 04:12 AM

I just want the bigger newer brake setup, that's why I was going to use the dodge rearend. When I get the whole doner truck I will check. I think 4.11s would be good. And the dodge is 8 lug also.

BR3W CITY · 06-21-2010, 02:09 PM

Honestly in a situation like that, I would think you are better off getting the whole dodge (frame, motor, rear end etc all as one) and grafting the chevy body on to it.

Keep the engine, brakes, drivetrain etc, but channel the body onto that frame. You would probably have to shorten the frame, and do custom mounts; but i still think it would be less of a hassle then converting the other way around.

cbrwags · 06-22-2010, 12:14 AM

Yeah that sound about right. I understand that the body swap is an option and I might have to do that, I hope I can get it one way or another.

**Captainfab** · 06-22-2010, 12:18 AM

I would suggest upgrading the running gear on the '65 frame to the '73-'87 C20 or C30 components. Then drop your Cummins and trans into the '65 frame and build motor and trans mounts. IMO it is easier to accomplish this, this way as opposed to body mods and mounts. BTDT

Also if you were to swap frames, that might create issues as far as title and licensing in your city, county, state. Something to consider.

cbrwags · 06-22-2010, 02:55 AM

That is what I am shooting for I want to use the c10 frame. Do you know if the c20 or c30 a-arms will bolt up?. Thanks for the info.

63 & 64 Bowties · 06-22-2010, 07:39 AM

Is your C-10 a longbed? IMO shortbeds are not real safe for towing heavy trailers. And, I'm assuming you're lookin' to tow some weight with the Cummins.

1Bad62Pro/Street · 06-22-2010, 07:52 AM

2009 Goodguys Nashville Nationals - Hot Times In Music City
1962 Chevy Pickup Truck (( Cummins Diesel powerplant. ))

This '62 Chevy has the right look with its satin black paint scheme with yellow accents, and it's definitely unique,
thanks to a (( Cummins Diesel powerplant. ))

http://www.classictrucks.com/events/.../photo_05.html

scotts62 · 06-22-2010, 07:54 AM

Yeah that is unique, looks cool though

1Bad62Pro/Street · 06-22-2010, 08:21 AM

I wonder what the whole Drivetrain is on that '62?
Puff'ian out black smoke when he mashes on it!!!

BR3W CITY · 06-22-2010, 09:37 AM

looks like a cummins 4bt to me. Not nearly as powerful as the 5.9 cummins you see in the dodge trucks, but def. enough grunt to get it around.

cbrwags · 06-22-2010, 10:36 AM

Yeah that is a 4bt. Thanks for posting that, mine is a longbed. I found a 6bt gunna go take a look.

**Captainfab** · 06-23-2010, 01:55 AM

Yes the '73-'87 (thru '91 on the Suburbans and CC's) control arms will bolt up to your '65 front crossmember. You will want to upgrade to the larger LCA shaft u-bolts used on the '73 and up.

Very nice looking truck there......

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Originally Posted by cbrwags

That is what I am shooting for I want to use the c10 frame. Do you know if the c20 or c30 a-arms will bolt up?. Thanks for the info.

cbrwags · 06-23-2010, 02:52 AM

Thanks, thats just what I needed to hear. It will be a whole lot nicer with a diesel motor in it.

BR3W CITY · 06-23-2010, 08:39 AM

I'd LOVE to do a 6bt into a crewcab-stepside 4x4. Thats a total dream truck for me.

cbrwags · 06-23-2010, 11:23 AM

It will be one of a kind, for sure.

1Bad62Pro/Street · 06-23-2010, 11:38 AM

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=273362

srr · 06-23-2010, 11:59 PM

YouTube- 6AT 3.4 CUMMINS IN A 79 CHEVY TRUCK

This is a friend of mines 79 Chevy with a Cummins diesel in it.

tapeworm · 06-26-2010, 12:01 AM

Check this site out

http://www.4btswaps.com/forum/index.php

These are kind of like the diesel version of a SBC
-people put them in everything!

BR3W CITY · 06-28-2010, 11:47 AM

x2, ive seen some of the stuff on that site.....rediculous. that little motor is a cool alternative to replace an older drivetrain. Like I said, its not exactly a hot rod but will get out of its own way if a few $$ are into it.

06-21-2010, 02:00 AM	#1
cbrwags Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cloverdale, Oregon Posts: 29	cummins diesel into a 65 chevy Well I am trying to get all the bases covered on this swap so I can start. I want the truck to look stock and be able to stop/tow/drive great... I plan on boxing the frame all the way back and weld in x braces I am going to try to get a whole 2wd dodge pickup with a 12 valve or 24 valve in it, so I can use the rearend I dont know if I should 4 link or leaf? Leafs would be easyer I think. I will use the dodge fuel tank mounted under the bed. The suspension is going to be tricky to do for cheap, can I use 3/4 ton chevy arms and spindles along with the steering? will the a-arms bolt up to the 65 chevy c10?.I might try to use the dodge bakes I will need to look at what I get. I plan on using this as a daily driver and tow rig and depending how it goes, the strip. I think this will be a nice driver. I think I can get a motor, trans,rearend, for about $1500 I have done a few swaps before. What else do you think should be done to make this safe? I am looking for idea's and am not rich, and in no hurry. I am just looking for the swap truck, so in the down time looking for info.

06-21-2010, 03:53 AM	#2
raycow Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Francisco, CA USA Posts: 2,454	Re: cummins diesel into a 65 chevy OK, I'm a little slow here. Is the Dodge rear end 8 lug, and is that why you want 3/4 ton brakes on the front? Do you need/want to use the Dodge rear because of the gearing? If yes, it might be easier to go with a later GM rear. What ratio do you need? Ray Last edited by raycow; 06-21-2010 at 03:59 AM.

06-21-2010, 04:12 AM	#3
cbrwags Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cloverdale, Oregon Posts: 29	Re: cummins diesel into a 65 chevy I just want the bigger newer brake setup, that's why I was going to use the dodge rearend. When I get the whole doner truck I will check. I think 4.11s would be good. And the dodge is 8 lug also.

06-21-2010, 02:09 PM	#4
BR3W CITY meowMEOWmeowMEOW Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: MKE WI Posts: 7,128	Re: cummins diesel into a 65 chevy Honestly in a situation like that, I would think you are better off getting the whole dodge (frame, motor, rear end etc all as one) and grafting the chevy body on to it. Keep the engine, brakes, drivetrain etc, but channel the body onto that frame. You would probably have to shorten the frame, and do custom mounts; but i still think it would be less of a hassle then converting the other way around. __________________ *'66 Short Step / SD Tuned / Big Cam LQ4 / Backhalfed /Built 4l80e / #REBUILDEVERYTHING* MY BUILD THE H8RDCPTR //\\ MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL REV J HD

06-22-2010, 12:14 AM	#5
cbrwags Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cloverdale, Oregon Posts: 29	Re: cummins diesel into a 65 chevy Yeah that sound about right. I understand that the body swap is an option and I might have to do that, I hope I can get it one way or another.

06-22-2010, 12:18 AM	#6
Captainfab 60-66 Nut Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Posts: 23,250	Re: cummins diesel into a 65 chevy I would suggest upgrading the running gear on the '65 frame to the '73-'87 C20 or C30 components. Then drop your Cummins and trans into the '65 frame and build motor and trans mounts. IMO it is easier to accomplish this, this way as opposed to body mods and mounts. BTDT Also if you were to swap frames, that might create issues as far as title and licensing in your city, county, state. Something to consider. __________________ Power Steering Box Adapter Plates For Sale HERE Power Brake Booster Adapter Brackets For Sale '63-'66 HERE and '67-'72 HERE and '60-'62 HERE and "60-'62 with clutch HERE Rear Disc Brake Brackets For Sale. Impala SS calipers HERE Camaro Calipers HERE D52 Calipers HERE 6 Lug HERE Hydroboost Mounting Plates HERE

06-22-2010, 02:55 AM	#7
cbrwags Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cloverdale, Oregon Posts: 29	Re: cummins diesel into a 65 chevy That is what I am shooting for I want to use the c10 frame. Do you know if the c20 or c30 a-arms will bolt up?. Thanks for the info.

06-22-2010, 07:39 AM	#8
63 & 64 Bowties and a few others Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Blue Ridge Mountains of VA Posts: 5,638	Re: cummins diesel into a 65 chevy Is your C-10 a longbed? IMO shortbeds are not real safe for towing heavy trailers. And, I'm assuming you're lookin' to tow some weight with the Cummins. __________________ Bill US Army Vet -193rd Infantry BlueRidgeMuscleCars.com “The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated” Gandhi

06-22-2010, 07:52 AM	#9
1Bad62Pro/Street "Where were you in '62?" Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Cleveland County, North Cackalacky Posts: 5,013	Re: cummins diesel into a 65 chevy 2009 Goodguys Nashville Nationals - Hot Times In Music City 1962 Chevy Pickup Truck (( Cummins Diesel powerplant. )) This '62 Chevy has the right look with its satin black paint scheme with yellow accents, and it's definitely unique, thanks to a (( Cummins Diesel powerplant. )) http://www.classictrucks.com/events/.../photo_05.html __________________ PROJECT: "FULL METAL YELLOW JACKET" 1962 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed Nostalgia Pro/Street Pickup Truck PROJECT: "FULL METAL YELLOW JACKET Build Thread What Are You Workin' On? - 1Bad62ChevyPickup PROJECT: "TYRANNORAMBLER REX" 1969 AMC Rambler American Nostalgia Pro/Street Youtube Channel: Father Son Projects Youtube Channel: 2TIMOTHY2FITHTEEN "North and South Carolina Folks Click Here!" (((( ~ I have Parts For Sale & Miscellaneous Stuff ~ )))) "Well being as there's no other place around the place, I reckon this must be the place, I reckon...Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk" -Curly Howard Ph.D. Last edited by 1Bad62Pro/Street; 06-22-2010 at 07:52 AM.

06-22-2010, 07:54 AM	#10
scotts62 One day... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tuttle, Ok Posts: 9,240	Re: cummins diesel into a 65 chevy Yeah that is unique, looks cool though __________________ Scott 93 crew cab build Project 62

06-22-2010, 08:21 AM	#11
1Bad62Pro/Street "Where were you in '62?" Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Cleveland County, North Cackalacky Posts: 5,013	Re: cummins diesel into a 65 chevy I wonder what the whole Drivetrain is on that '62? Puff'ian out black smoke when he mashes on it!!! __________________ PROJECT: "FULL METAL YELLOW JACKET" 1962 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed Nostalgia Pro/Street Pickup Truck PROJECT: "FULL METAL YELLOW JACKET Build Thread What Are You Workin' On? - 1Bad62ChevyPickup PROJECT: "TYRANNORAMBLER REX" 1969 AMC Rambler American Nostalgia Pro/Street Youtube Channel: Father Son Projects Youtube Channel: 2TIMOTHY2FITHTEEN "North and South Carolina Folks Click Here!" (((( ~ I have Parts For Sale & Miscellaneous Stuff ~ )))) "Well being as there's no other place around the place, I reckon this must be the place, I reckon...Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk" -Curly Howard Ph.D.

06-22-2010, 09:37 AM	#12
BR3W CITY meowMEOWmeowMEOW Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: MKE WI Posts: 7,128	Re: cummins diesel into a 65 chevy looks like a cummins 4bt to me. Not nearly as powerful as the 5.9 cummins you see in the dodge trucks, but def. enough grunt to get it around. __________________ *'66 Short Step / SD Tuned / Big Cam LQ4 / Backhalfed /Built 4l80e / #REBUILDEVERYTHING* MY BUILD THE H8RDCPTR //\\ MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL REV J HD

06-22-2010, 10:36 AM	#13
cbrwags Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cloverdale, Oregon Posts: 29	Re: cummins diesel into a 65 chevy Yeah that is a 4bt. Thanks for posting that, mine is a longbed. I found a 6bt gunna go take a look.

06-23-2010, 02:52 AM	#15
cbrwags Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cloverdale, Oregon Posts: 29	Re: cummins diesel into a 65 chevy Thanks, thats just what I needed to hear. It will be a whole lot nicer with a diesel motor in it. Last edited by cbrwags; 06-23-2010 at 02:53 AM.

06-23-2010, 08:39 AM	#16
BR3W CITY meowMEOWmeowMEOW Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: MKE WI Posts: 7,128	Re: cummins diesel into a 65 chevy I'd LOVE to do a 6bt into a crewcab-stepside 4x4. Thats a total dream truck for me. __________________ *'66 Short Step / SD Tuned / Big Cam LQ4 / Backhalfed /Built 4l80e / #REBUILDEVERYTHING* MY BUILD THE H8RDCPTR //\\ MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL REV J HD



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06-23-2010, 11:23 AM	#17
cbrwags Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cloverdale, Oregon Posts: 29	Re: cummins diesel into a 65 chevy It will be one of a kind, for sure.

06-23-2010, 11:38 AM	#18
1Bad62Pro/Street "Where were you in '62?" Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Cleveland County, North Cackalacky Posts: 5,013	Re: cummins diesel into a 65 chevy http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=273362 __________________ PROJECT: "FULL METAL YELLOW JACKET" 1962 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed Nostalgia Pro/Street Pickup Truck PROJECT: "FULL METAL YELLOW JACKET Build Thread What Are You Workin' On? - 1Bad62ChevyPickup PROJECT: "TYRANNORAMBLER REX" 1969 AMC Rambler American Nostalgia Pro/Street Youtube Channel: Father Son Projects Youtube Channel: 2TIMOTHY2FITHTEEN "North and South Carolina Folks Click Here!" (((( ~ I have Parts For Sale & Miscellaneous Stuff ~ )))) "Well being as there's no other place around the place, I reckon this must be the place, I reckon...Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk" -Curly Howard Ph.D.

06-26-2010, 12:01 AM	#20
tapeworm fan of "Butters" Stotch Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 267	Re: cummins diesel into a 65 chevy Check this site out http://www.4btswaps.com/forum/index.php These are kind of like the diesel version of a SBC -people put them in everything! __________________ 64 shortbox fleetside replacing rusty junk with more junk, and one day to become a real truck again Last edited by tapeworm; 06-26-2010 at 12:01 AM.

06-28-2010, 11:47 AM	#21
BR3W CITY meowMEOWmeowMEOW Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: MKE WI Posts: 7,128	Re: cummins diesel into a 65 chevy x2, ive seen some of the stuff on that site.....rediculous. that little motor is a cool alternative to replace an older drivetrain. Like I said, its not exactly a hot rod but will get out of its own way if a few $$ are into it. __________________ *'66 Short Step / SD Tuned / Big Cam LQ4 / Backhalfed /Built 4l80e / #REBUILDEVERYTHING* MY BUILD THE H8RDCPTR //\\ MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL REV J HD

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