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Old 08-09-2010, 10:55 AM   #1
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Lift Pics

Anybody have some pics of different lift combos? I'm thinking 2.5" with 33" tires, but I'd like to see some pics first. The alternative would be 4" lift with 33" or 35" tires. This would be going on a CCSB...

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Old 08-09-2010, 12:29 PM   #2
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This is a 4 inch lift with 35's.
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Old 08-09-2010, 01:01 PM   #3
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i personally think a crew needs 4+ because of the length.. to look appropriate.. i want 6-8 and 37's when i build one
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Old 08-09-2010, 03:18 PM   #4
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This is what I just got home and I do not like the lift/tires it has. It has 8" suspension plus 3" body and 38"x15.5" Toyo M/T's. It drives like crap! This will be my driver and I need it to be practical and still look good...



I'm a little worried that 4" lift with 33" tires will look a little awkward.

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Old 08-09-2010, 06:24 PM   #5
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Too bad it drives like crap cause I think it looks cool
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deepnsteep:
Do you have your caster angles worked out?
Do you have a steering brace and crossover steering yet?
Upgrade to a XJ steering shaft.
My 6inch and 35s steered better than stock when i was done with it.

Also, always use a shackle flip in back, it rides much better. Use longer 56" springs also.

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Old 08-09-2010, 07:46 PM   #7
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Do you have your caster angles worked out?
Do you have a steering brace and crossover steering yet?
Upgrade to a XJ steering shaft.
My 6inch and 35s steered better than stock when i was done with it.

Also, always use a shackle flip in back, it rides much better. Use longer 56" springs also.
Does the crossover steering really help?
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Does the crossover steering really help?
Nevermind. I just did a little research on the crossover steering and it makes perfect sense now lol
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Yes, even in a parking lot you can get more lock to lock turning compared to a raised steering arm correction etc. On highway bumps, your steering will not wonder as your suspension travels.
And of course, offroad is where that crossover really shines when you can actually turn all of the time.
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Yes, even in a parking lot you can get more lock to lock turning compared to a raised steering arm correction etc. On highway bumps, your steering will not wonder as your suspension travels.
And of course, offroad is where that crossover really shines when you can actually turn all of the time.
Thats good to know. my 76 K10 is all stock right now and i have horrible bump steer on the highway, and the stock steering is all tight but always feels sloppy.
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Old 08-09-2010, 08:51 PM   #11
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This is what I just got home and I do not like the lift/tires it has. It has 8" suspension plus 3" body and 38"x15.5" Toyo M/T's. It drives like crap! This will be my driver and I need it to be practical and still look good...



I'm a little worried that 4" lift with 33" tires will look a little awkward.

Thanks!

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Old 08-09-2010, 10:44 PM   #12
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wow. I am more than jealous of that truck. I mean that is my dream truck (with exceptions to a few minor things). amazing truck. i would work with your steering components before losing lift
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Old 08-09-2010, 11:03 PM   #13
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I love the look of this truck. Absolutely perfect!
It does get a lot of looks. I happened to hit Hot August Nights just right in Reno bringing it to Wyo from California last Friday. It doesn't look as big in the pic as it does in person!!

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Do you have your caster angles worked out?
Do you have a steering brace and crossover steering yet?
Upgrade to a XJ steering shaft.
My 6inch and 35s steered better than stock when i was done with it.

Also, always use a shackle flip in back, it rides much better. Use longer 56" springs also.
I'm not sure what you mean by caster angles?? Lifted geometry is new to me...teach me sensei!
I do not have a steering brace but am considering it. I plan on a 4" lift max and didn't really think crossover is really necessary with that amount of lift.
Note taken.
Does the shackle flip give a better ride than skyjacker springs even? Use stock springs for 4" lift?

Thanks for the input!

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Old 08-10-2010, 06:03 AM   #14
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Re: Lift Pics

Here is a picture of my work in progress. Have a 4 inch lift on order, as it sits in the picture it has a 3 inch lift with 33's. I photo shopped out the rust in this picture lol
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:12 AM   #15
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even with 4 inches of lift i recomend crossover steering. it will be less stressful on your frame during turns an will help keep steering box attached.... trust me i learned the hard way i had my gear box come off frame while i was going 50mph..... not fun.
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:17 AM   #16
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here is mine. 4 inch all spring rough country lift. The first pic is with 33s on 16 inch wheels, and the second is how it sits now, 35/1250-20s.
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I'm not sure what you mean by caster angles?? Lifted geometry is new to me...teach me sensei!
I do not have a steering brace but am considering it. I plan on a 4" lift max and didn't really think crossover is really necessary with that amount of lift.
Note taken.
Does the shackle flip give a better ride than skyjacker springs even? Use stock springs for 4" lift?

Thanks for the input!

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On your front suspension, do you have extended length shackles? If so, this can cause you poor steering response unless you correct it with shims between your axle and leaf springs.
Do the steering brace!
Crossover is always worth it if you drive the truck often.
Shackle flip is the best way to go for flex and for ride quality.
Stock springs give about a 4 inch lift. I used some 56's instead of the 52s on my last blazer and got more like 5 or 6 because they had more arch to them.
Longer and flatter springs give a better ride and more flex.

Tuff Country springs tend to have the softest springs rate for aftermarket options...unless custom made.

Do you have your front sway bar still attached? If so, get rid of it.

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On your front suspension, do you have extended length shackles? If so, this can cause you poor steering response unless you correct it with shims between your axle and leaf springs.
Do the steering brace!
Crossover is always worth it if you drive the truck often.
Shackle flip is the best way to go for flex and for ride quality.
Stock springs give about a 4 inch lift. I used some 56's instead of the 52s on my last blazer and got more like 5 or 6 because they had more arch to them.
Longer and flatter springs give a better ride and more flex.

Tuff Country springs tend to have the softest springs rate for aftermarket options...unless custom made.

Do you have your front sway bar still attached? If so, get rid of it.

Why get rid of the front swaybar?
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Unless the sway bar has lowered front mounts, and lengthened rear links to connect it to the spring pack/axle... It will be mounted at a poor angle which does not allow it function as it would in a stock setup. It will try to act as a "link" making the suspension travel stiffly/binding and not really acting like a true sway bar.
Try disconnecting it for a week, i bet you will forget you did and like the improved ride. Most aftermarket front lift springs are stiff enough to control sway. And remember, it's not like these lifted square bodies should turn like a NASCAR anyway. SLOW DOWN on those highway clover-leafs and you won't miss it one bit.

I also assume that that everyone's brakelines for the front and rear axles are lenthened...right?
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Here is what is in there now for shims. I don't believe these to be extended length shackles.





I think this last one shows a spacer that was used to correct that geometry. I see your point on coupling the front with bad geometry though.



Brake lines are extended with braided lines. I think you can see them in one pic. They may be a little too long with less lift though.

I will look into putting on 56" springs, but I'm afraid that it would interfere too much with a hitch (that I need to add also).


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On your front suspension, do you have extended length shackles? If so, this can cause you poor steering response unless you correct it with shims between your axle and leaf springs.
Do the steering brace!
Crossover is always worth it if you drive the truck often.
Shackle flip is the best way to go for flex and for ride quality.
Stock springs give about a 4 inch lift. I used some 56's instead of the 52s on my last blazer and got more like 5 or 6 because they had more arch to them.
Longer and flatter springs give a better ride and more flex.

Tuff Country springs tend to have the softest springs rate for aftermarket options...unless custom made.

Do you have your front sway bar still attached? If so, get rid of it.

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the pics are red X's.... at least on my end..
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This is what I just got home and I do not like the lift/tires it has. It has 8" suspension plus 3" body and 38"x15.5" Toyo M/T's. It drives like crap! This will be my driver and I need it to be practical and still look good...



I'm a little worried that 4" lift with 33" tires will look a little awkward.

Thanks!

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the pics are red X's.... at least on my end..
Hmm...they show up on mine, but here they are again.

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The front shackles are factory ones.
The sway bar does have a bit or correction, but it still not parallel yet.
The Draglink has quite an angle to it. That is one of the main reasons for the poor driving. I'm surprised it doesn't have a dropped draglink or a dropped pitman arm with 8 inches of lift. Most front 8 inch springs will ride rough though.
That truck is so clean compared to our "rust-belt" trucks around here!
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So seeing that even with lift springs in the front w/ stock shackles the shackles are nearly touching the frame, wouldn't it be a good idea to get longer shackles for the front?

Because on my stock suspension the front shackles are nearly touching the frame too...
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