What headers to use with bags? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

bmfpeterson · 09-02-2010, 02:53 PM

I know this isnt a suspension question but thought I would ask the suspension guys.

I have a 71 stock arms and bags with 3'' spindles and trailing arms with bags in the rear. I just bought some full length headers and they hang down 3-4"s bellow the frame rail. I have a sbc with maybe 450 hp. I want to have the most performance I can get out of my headers but I want to know what you guys with low trucks run. Here is a pic of the truck aired out looking at the headers. maybe 1/2'' of clearance?

any help is greatly appreciated!

**Hart_Rod** · 09-02-2010, 03:10 PM

Doug Thorley makes some nice headers that don't hang below the frame. I'm not sure what the part number is though....

bmfpeterson · 09-02-2010, 03:21 PM

Im on it! they look pretty nice!

firedog · 09-05-2010, 12:50 AM

i have the same prob my exhaust guy turned the pipe up from the headers above the tranny cross member then cut holes in the trailing arm crossmember when my truck is aired out it just barely sits on the header with all the weight on my tubular a-arms

bill c · 09-05-2010, 02:03 AM

i went with 68 camaro headers for my big block. made some mount mod's but not that bad.

*Shane* · 09-05-2010, 02:58 PM

i'm using 3/4 length dynomax headers for chevelle/malibu ... simply bolt on and go ... no mods.

Rochlow · 09-05-2010, 03:23 PM

Heddman shorty headers here.

bill c · 09-05-2010, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane

i'm using 3/4 length dynomax headers for chevelle/malibu ... simply bolt on and go ... no mods.

is it on a small block or big block.?

KQQL IT · 09-05-2010, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hart_Rod

Doug Thorley makes some nice headers that don't hang below the frame. I'm not sure what the part number is though....

D-310c sbc

pass side

*Shane* · 09-05-2010, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill c

is it on a small block or big block.?

small block ...

**Hart_Rod** · 09-05-2010, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shane

small block ...

What size are the primaries and collectors Shane?

KQQL IT · 09-05-2010, 09:37 PM

I also know these work, the flanges were kinda thin 5/16''

Exhaust
Manufacturer's Part Number H8021-1
Part Type Headers
Product Line Patriot Clippster Headers
Summit Racing Part Number PTE-H8021-1

Header Style Mid-length
Header Material Steel
Header Finish Ceramic coated
Primary Tube Diameter (in) 1 5/8 in.
Collector Attachment 3-bolt flange
Collector Diameter 3.000 in.
Tuned No
Primary Tube Gauge 16-gauge
Cylinder Head Port Shape Round
Flange Style Standard
Flange Thickness (in) 5/16 in.
Bolts/Studs Included Yes

Only pic i can find with the patriots

*Shane* · 09-06-2010, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hart_Rod

What size are the primaries and collectors Shane?

the primaries are 1 1/2" and the collectors are 2 1/2" ... fairly small, but do fine on a stock to mild motor ... they also won't fit angle-plug heads.

**Hart_Rod** · 09-06-2010, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shane

the primaries are 1 1/2" and the collectors are 2 1/2" ... fairly small, but do fine on a stock to mild motor ... they also won't fit angle-plug heads.

Thanks. I'm trying to find some 1 3/4 or 1 7/8's with 3" collectors that I can put on my supecharged 68 truck. I have long tubes on it, but they hang way to low...

KQQL IT · 09-06-2010, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hart_Rod

Thanks. I'm trying to find some 1 3/4 or 1 7/8's with 3" collectos that I can put on my supecharged 68 truck. I have long tubes on it, but they hang way to low...

Try chevelle, camaro or nova long tubes, we used some 2 1/8 hooker's for a nova on a bbc in a 73, fit with minor trimming of the lower rail flange

Hottrucks · 09-06-2010, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shane

i'm using 3/4 length dynomax headers for chevelle/malibu ... simply bolt on and go ... no mods.

also the 3/4 for the 87 trucks

*Shane* · 09-06-2010, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hottrucks

also the 3/4 for the 87 trucks

nope. different header.

PipsC10 · 09-07-2010, 10:39 PM

Sanderson headers, got them from early classic enterprises

denny5625 · 09-09-2010, 10:35 PM

I have a 71 2wd with a big block and I used Sanderson headers. They tuck real nice.

Jparks · 09-10-2010, 03:23 PM

Rochlow, you got a part # on those hedman's and do they stick below the frame at all? Pips or Denny, those sanderson's stick below the frame?
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PipsC10 · 09-10-2010, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jparks

Rochlow, you got a part # on those hedman's and do they stick below the frame at all? Pips or Denny, those sanderson's stick below the frame?
Posted via Mobile Device

No they do not, they market them for lowered trucks. They dont even come close.

dznucks · 09-11-2010, 11:19 AM

this is what i am running......

http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...treetrod.shtml

Rochlow · 09-11-2010, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jparks

Rochlow, you got a part # on those hedman's and do they stick below the frame at all? Pips or Denny, those sanderson's stick below the frame?
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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HED-69648/

Lee H · 09-12-2010, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochlow

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HED-69648/

Are you using these with a C10? Info on summit says OK for C20 & C30, no reference to C10. Thanks,

Rochlow · 09-12-2010, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee H

Are you using these with a C10? Info on summit says OK for C20 & C30, no reference to C10. Thanks,

Yup.. I had to clearance the frame in some areas, but it seems to work..

09-02-2010, 02:53 PM	#1
bmfpeterson Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Queen Creek, AZ Posts: 538	What headers to use with bags? I know this isnt a suspension question but thought I would ask the suspension guys. I have a 71 stock arms and bags with 3'' spindles and trailing arms with bags in the rear. I just bought some full length headers and they hang down 3-4"s bellow the frame rail. I have a sbc with maybe 450 hp. I want to have the most performance I can get out of my headers but I want to know what you guys with low trucks run. Here is a pic of the truck aired out looking at the headers. maybe 1/2'' of clearance? any help is greatly appreciated! Attached Images

09-02-2010, 03:10 PM	#2
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09-02-2010, 03:21 PM	#3
bmfpeterson Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Queen Creek, AZ Posts: 538	Re: What headers to use with bags? Im on it! they look pretty nice!

09-05-2010, 12:50 AM	#4
firedog Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Festus, Missouri Posts: 1,005	Re: What headers to use with bags? i have the same prob my exhaust guy turned the pipe up from the headers above the tranny cross member then cut holes in the trailing arm crossmember when my truck is aired out it just barely sits on the header with all the weight on my tubular a-arms __________________ SOLD 1968 Chevy SWB Fleet 350/350 combo Tach/tilt/buddy buckets Bagged/18" Wheels Black on Black Project "Pandemic" the Farm Rat 1927 Chevy Capitol Truck Rat rod '30 Model A Frame Dual Carb 5.3 LS http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=804162 2007 GMC 4 DOOR 2WD BUILT 5.3 STAGE 3 CAM 93 TUNE LIFTED 22X12 WHEELS 33" TIRES 2023 Jeep RENEGADE Wifes ride

09-05-2010, 02:03 AM	#5
bill c Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: shingle springs, ca Posts: 57	Re: What headers to use with bags? i went with 68 camaro headers for my big block. made some mount mod's but not that bad. Attached Images

09-05-2010, 02:58 PM	#6
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	Re: What headers to use with bags? i'm using 3/4 length dynomax headers for chevelle/malibu ... simply bolt on and go ... no mods.

09-05-2010, 03:23 PM	#7
Rochlow Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: St. Albans, Vt Posts: 2,520	Re: What headers to use with bags? Heddman shorty headers here.

09-05-2010, 09:37 PM	#12
KQQL IT At the body shop. Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Land of fruits and nuts. Posts: 5,254	Re: What headers to use with bags? I also know these work, the flanges were kinda thin 5/16'' Exhaust Manufacturer's Part Number H8021-1 Part Type Headers Product Line Patriot Clippster Headers Summit Racing Part Number PTE-H8021-1 Header Style Mid-length Header Material Steel Header Finish Ceramic coated Primary Tube Diameter (in) 1 5/8 in. Collector Attachment 3-bolt flange Collector Diameter 3.000 in. Tuned No Primary Tube Gauge 16-gauge Cylinder Head Port Shape Round Flange Style Standard Flange Thickness (in) 5/16 in. Bolts/Studs Included Yes Only pic i can find with the patriots __________________ " That didnt make it any newer " " Dont antique the equipment " Last edited by KQQL IT; 09-05-2010 at 09:58 PM. Reason: pics

09-07-2010, 10:39 PM	#18
PipsC10 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oakdale, Ca Posts: 655	Re: What headers to use with bags? Sanderson headers, got them from early classic enterprises Attached Images __________________ 1970 2wd short/fleet 350/350 Project "iced green dream" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=272702 2006 Toyota Tacoma double cab 4x4

09-09-2010, 10:35 PM	#19
denny5625 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 152	Re: What headers to use with bags? I have a 71 2wd with a big block and I used Sanderson headers. They tuck real nice.

09-10-2010, 03:23 PM	#20
Jparks Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Nederland, TX Posts: 429	Re: What headers to use with bags? Rochlow, you got a part # on those hedman's and do they stick below the frame at all? Pips or Denny, those sanderson's stick below the frame? Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 72 SWB - Porterbuilt Front/Rear, 22's, 496bbc - "Outkast" 68 Stepside - Porterbuilt Coilover Chassis, 22's, LS3 - "Badfinger"

09-11-2010, 11:19 AM	#22
dznucks Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Smyrna, Ga Posts: 1,647	Re: What headers to use with bags? this is what i am running...... http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...treetrod.shtml



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