8-400 badge...what exactly does it mean?

[05crewcab]

Just want to make sure of something. the 8-400 badge came out in 71 for the big block trucks even though they were infact 402ci, and, eventhough the '70 trucks were 402's, they still got the 8-396 badge correct?

And, the small block 400 was never offered in the pre-'73 trucks, true?

I ask because I might buy this truck below (for the motor and tranny, and onl y if I can get it cheaper) and can't quite make out the size of the motor in the pic, and I think it is a '72, not a '70:

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hn...955810491.html

[too much stuff]

That is a 72 big block. (402) In 1970 they were badged as 400 thru 72.
And you are correct the 400 small block wasn't offered in these trucks. That looks like a good buy. Better hurry, won't last long.

[05crewcab]

Originally Posted by too much stuff

That is a 72 big block. (402) In 1970 they were badged as 400 thru 72.
And you are correct the 400 small block wasn't offered in these trucks. That looks like a good buy. Better hurry, won't last long.

Thanks man...that's what I thought...now if only I can con the wife into thinking this is a good idea

Say, this ad in craigs is from your neck of the woods...you thinning the herd?

1967 chevy shortbed parts truck - $500 (Grand Rapids)

[7dguy]

Originally Posted by 05crewcab

Just want to make sure of something. the 8-400 badge came out in 71 for the big block trucks even though they were infact 402ci, and, eventhough the '70 trucks were 402's, they still got the 8-396 badge correct?

And, the small block 400 was never offered in the pre-'73 trucks, true?

I ask because I might buy this truck below (for the motor and tranny, and onl y if I can get it cheaper) and can't quite make out the size of the motor in the pic, and I think it is a '72, not a '70:

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hn...955810491.html

These trucks are funny. The spid sheet in the glove box sometimes say they are 396. The badge says 400, yet they are a 402. Funnier yet is they barely put out over 300HP! Good news is they respond very well to larger cam's and can actually perform a bit when coaxed. You've found somewhat of a rare truck, I'd buy it if it runs.

[sleepertruck72]

I would buy it

[too much stuff]

Originally Posted by 05crewcab

Thanks man...that's what I thought...now if only I can con the wife into thinking this is a good idea

Say, this ad in craigs is from your neck of the woods...you thinning the herd?

1967 chevy shortbed parts truck - $500 (Grand Rapids)

I have been thinning the herd for over a year now. Still have a few to go... And yes, that is one of mine.

[05crewcab]

Originally Posted by too much stuff

I have been thinning the herd for over a year now. Still have a few to go... And yes, that is one of mine.

Cool, good to know. You have a bunch of parts too, or just some carcasses left? I'm in the market for a few things...

[05crewcab]

So, if the guy doesn't have a key for it, how am i to get it running? bridge a wire from the battery to the starter? then likewise, how do i get it to stop running? block the carb?

Or is there an easier way?

[sleepertruck72]

Originally Posted by 05crewcab

So, if the guy doesn't have a key for it, how am i to get it running? bridge a wire from the battery to the starter? then likewise, how do i get it to stop running? block the carb?

Or is there an easier way?

You could use a screwdriver and bridge the connections at the starter to see if it will start, or if you prefer simplicity, replace the ignition switch cylinder. Then you will have the keys

[JET4x4]

Looks like it has a tilt column also...

[05crewcab]

Originally Posted by JET4x4

Looks like it has a tilt column also...

It does! the guy just sent me more pictures and it looks pretty good...now i am getting excited

[shiner2001]

I'm new around here, but I'm pretty sure that the screw in the upper part of the door, just below the vent window handle tells you it's a 72. Obviously, that's assuming it's all original, but it's a start. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on that one...

[Rodk65]

Its a 72. He sent me the VIN and a couple of pictures.

[tkeduk8r]

BUY IT before i have to!!! bb, tilt, D60, fact aux tank, vintage turbines... needs a hom eto some one on this board...
--Mike

[Rodk65]

I'm thinking about it. I'm trying to figure out what to do about the title, or just switch cabs. Just have to make the 5-6 hour road trip.

[darush01]

Originally Posted by 05crewcab

So, if the guy doesn't have a key for it, how am i to get it running? bridge a wire from the battery to the starter? then likewise, how do i get it to stop running? block the carb?

Or is there an easier way?

If you are just going to use it for parts I'd just take a screwdriver and knock the ignition out and start it like tht I think it would work I drove my 85 3/4 ton and my 78 elcamino with a screwdriver for a key for a while

[raycow]

If you only want to see if the engine will start, run a wire from the battery (+) to the ignition coil (+). Then jump the starter solenoid (bat to S terminal) with a heavy screwdriver. If you want to do it "nice", clip a remote starter switch onto the solenoid instead of using a screwdriver. Don't run the engine for very long like this if the distributor still has points, because they will burn very quickly.

If the distributor has points and you want to run the engine for an extended length of time, connect an external coil resistor in series with the battery to coil wire.

Ray

[05crewcab]

Originally Posted by tkeduk8r

BUY IT before i have to!!! bb, tilt, D60, fact aux tank, vintage turbines... needs a hom eto some one on this board...
--Mike

Originally Posted by Rodk65

I'm thinking about it. I'm trying to figure out what to do about the title, or just switch cabs. Just have to make the 5-6 hour road trip.

I've got dibs! we can have a race to the truck on Saturday tkeduk8r, you have to give us a little bit of a head start!

[05crewcab]

Well friends, I got it

I didn't get it started because it has points and I didn't want to fry them, so I took a leap. The oil wasn't too dirty, and the trans fluid was clean as can be. The tilt wheel is tight, all the AC components are present except the compressor it seems, and the frame doesn't look NEARLY as bad as the body.

The cab and bed are pretty rotten, and the old turbines (9.5x16.5) are 'ok' but the tires are shot/missing It also has all the camper stuff on it still (wiring, tie-down posts, etc.)

It isn't as nice as I had hoped, but I am going to see what I can do to improve that. I am going to clean it tip to tail and get it running. then i will decide if I want to re-sell, or part it, or put the body of my 71 on this frame/drivetrain.

[05crewcab]

more...

[Rodk65]

I'm glad someone went to get it. Were any of his other truck any good?

[05crewcab]

The '70 c-20 was ok, probably the same level as this truck, and I didn't look to closely at the '64's, except the c-20 dually looked like it was a 67-72 coil rear frame with a dually HO72 rear axle, no box.

This guy is retired and gets 2 to 10 cars daily from people that are running estates or want to clear up the clutter on their farmstead. he generally just scraps them @ about $175 a ton unless they are unique/in better shape than normal.


Funny thing...i had just loaded the truck up on the trailer and parked it on the service road next to the freeway to then settle up with the seller, and some dude pulled off the freeway and stopped by my truck. he then went on to say that he saw the truck loaded up and had to stop because he has a '67 small window short box sitting at his place that he wants sold. We exchanged contact info and I said I would post some pics here for him if he'd like. we'll see if he emails me... These trucks are waiting for us obsessive bastards all over the place

[too much stuff]

Glad someone from here got it. Did you get a deal? Lots of good parts there...

[tkeduk8r]

GOOD JOB!!!! I wasnt looking forward to marraige counselling if I diverted our trip to the twins game yesterday to go look at it ...
--Mike

[05crewcab]

Originally Posted by too much stuff

Glad someone from here got it. Did you get a deal? Lots of good parts there...

I got an ok deal on it...I offered him 5 bills initially and we ended up in the middle.

Originally Posted by tkeduk8r

GOOD JOB!!!! I wasnt looking forward to marraige counselling if I diverted our trip to the twins game yesterday to go look at it ...
--Mike

Yeah, I hear ya! In 7 months I went from having no old trucks to having two...the wife is putting together her list of demands as we speak...


Got it cleaned up today... there was moss EVERYWHERE: