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**slepysal** · 10-13-2010, 01:34 AM

Hey ,yea its been a while ,hope all you cool cats are doing good. So after driving my truck around this summer I decided it was time to do some work on her.
So today I decided to split my brake lines and swap in a dual master cylinder , yea still have NOT done my disc brake swap and no Chief still haven't swaped the rear end this recesion bites. Of course it was hot, that should have been the first sign that things would not go well.
I removed my old master no prob added a M/P plate to cover up the extra hole ( 60-62 manuals used a hydraulic clutch and a dual master with 3 bolt holes) drilled the extra 3/8 hole all cake so far.
I knew I would have to mod the push rod so I took it out set it aside to deal with it at a later time.Bench bleed the master all good. Mount it to the firewall and notice I will need a fitting that points down to clear my clutch master cylinder no biggie I'll hit up Royal Brass in the A.M.
Jack up the truck locate the "T" fitting soaked it with WD40. After a few I place the flare nut wrench on the rear feed line and .............. yup its a no go !I could not get it to budge . Ok what ever I'll just remove the front lines off the "T" and add a cupler to them and feed the rear thru the "T" with a new line an plug. That one dosn't lossen either.
So yes there is a question in this rant: What should I do? any tips on getting (and saving) the rear line lose? Replace all the lines and t's? Man this was suposed to be so easy, but it never is

**aerotruk63** · 10-13-2010, 06:39 AM

There's a tread about penetrating oils and how WD40 just doesn't cut it. It goes on to state that a 50/50 mix of aetone and transmission fluid works the best. Loctite has a penetrating oil that freezes the fastener with -45 degree gas. Works the opposite of a torch.

My Dad told me a story that he got from an old timer about how they would urinate on a fastener. Seems the body heat would work it's magic then the urine would seep it's way into the joint after a day or so. Tell me if it works for you then I'll try it.

61_FL_Apache · 10-13-2010, 09:00 AM

Im a fan of PB Blaster for stuff like that. I guess when all else fails, just piss on it!!

**ChiefRocka** · 10-13-2010, 09:07 AM

Welcome back Sal !!

Dude, take a propane torch and heat that T up, it come loose right away !!

I'm always ready for that Rear swap, jus let me know !!!

**slepysal** · 10-13-2010, 03:48 PM

wow this is a pisser!!! Thanks Chief I'll heat it up and see what gives!!
So hows the new place in Holister?

**Clyde65** · 10-13-2010, 04:12 PM

My theory has always been if it still wont come off, piss on it!

fryer1979 · 10-13-2010, 11:01 PM

I've had really good luck mixing the PB and WD-40. Normally on old and stuck brake lines though I'll cut the lines as close to the fittings as possible. Then I can use a socket and bench vise to take them apart. Slide the fittings back on the line and put a new double flare on the line. Good to go. A double flaring set is fairly cheap (my local non-chain parts house sells a Lysle set for about $35), as is a hand tubing bender to help make the new lines you would need anyway. I just got really tired of soaking and waiting like you are, then soaking and waiting some more, trying to be extra careful, then just breaking the lines anyway. After switching my methods my projects like this got a lot shorter and much cleaner. Just my .02

**ChiefRocka** · 10-14-2010, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slepysal

wow this is a pisser!!! Thanks Chief I'll heat it up and see what gives!!
So hows the new place in Holister?

I'm loving it man !!

So far so good ... Wish I would of purchased a bigger home a long time ago !!

Born Lucky · 10-14-2010, 06:31 AM

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**slepysal** · 10-16-2010, 10:06 PM

Well a little heat and off it came. I used part of the old clutch pushrod and an MP push rod for the brake push rod giving me the extra 1-1.5 inch I needed . Now I just need to fab up the rear brake line ( boooooo) and blead it then it should be good to go , or stop

10-13-2010, 01:34 AM	#1
slepysal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Jose NOR*CAL Posts: 3,080	It's never easy ! Hey ,yea its been a while ,hope all you cool cats are doing good. So after driving my truck around this summer I decided it was time to do some work on her. So today I decided to split my brake lines and swap in a dual master cylinder , yea still have NOT done my disc brake swap and no Chief still haven't swaped the rear end this recesion bites. Of course it was hot, that should have been the first sign that things would not go well. I removed my old master no prob added a M/P plate to cover up the extra hole ( 60-62 manuals used a hydraulic clutch and a dual master with 3 bolt holes) drilled the extra 3/8 hole all cake so far. I knew I would have to mod the push rod so I took it out set it aside to deal with it at a later time.Bench bleed the master all good. Mount it to the firewall and notice I will need a fitting that points down to clear my clutch master cylinder no biggie I'll hit up Royal Brass in the A.M. Jack up the truck locate the "T" fitting soaked it with WD40. After a few I place the flare nut wrench on the rear feed line and .............. yup its a no go !I could not get it to budge . Ok what ever I'll just remove the front lines off the "T" and add a cupler to them and feed the rear thru the "T" with a new line an plug. That one dosn't lossen either. So yes there is a question in this rant: What should I do? any tips on getting (and saving) the rear line lose? Replace all the lines and t's? Man this was suposed to be so easy, but it never is __________________ 1960 Apache long bed fleet L6 250 Clifford intake 2 bbl carb. Langdon cast headers with dual exhaust and bellflower tips. T-5 5 speed, power steering and power disc brakes. "Over, Around or through it... " Last edited by slepysal; 10-13-2010 at 01:37 AM.

10-13-2010, 06:39 AM	#2
aerotruk63 Check The Champ, Demonstrator Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Montreal,Quebec Posts: 6,627	Re: It's never easy ! There's a tread about penetrating oils and how WD40 just doesn't cut it. It goes on to state that a 50/50 mix of aetone and transmission fluid works the best. Loctite has a penetrating oil that freezes the fastener with -45 degree gas. Works the opposite of a torch. My Dad told me a story that he got from an old timer about how they would urinate on a fastener. Seems the body heat would work it's magic then the urine would seep it's way into the joint after a day or so. Tell me if it works for you then I'll try it. __________________ 1963 *Chevrolet Truck* Literature LINK: https://picasaweb.google.com/113840717762774560215 YouTube Channel with 20+ Original *Chevrolet Truck* Salesmen, Mechanics & Service Department Training Slideshows. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...otruk63&page=1 Last edited by aerotruk63; 10-13-2010 at 06:44 AM.

10-13-2010, 09:00 AM	#3
61_FL_Apache Who Me? Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Royal Palm Beach, FL Posts: 4,067	Re: It's never easy ! Im a fan of PB Blaster for stuff like that. I guess when all else fails, just piss on it!! __________________ Steve 1997 Tahoe LT 4D 2WD (DD) 2001 Blazer 4D 2WD 1961 Apache 10 (sold) 1965 C10 Stepper (sold)

10-13-2010, 09:07 AM	#4
ChiefRocka Hollister, CA. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hollister, Ca. Posts: 6,147	Re: It's never easy ! Welcome back Sal !! Dude, take a propane torch and heat that T up, it come loose right away !! I'm always ready for that Rear swap, jus let me know !!! __________________ John What the Heck is that ?? CURRENT BUILDS: 62 BurbMaster Other Builds: My '63 C-10,LWB,CC,BBW '06 HD StrAight Axle Swap Father/Son '67 C-20, LQ9,4L80,Bagged,8-Lugger !!Good Friend Richard's Build AMERICAN CUSTOMS & CLASSICS (831) 630-1965 www.ACCHOLLISTER.com ACC on FACEBOOK "Rest in Peace, Mom & Dad ... I will see you again someday!"

10-13-2010, 03:48 PM	#5
slepysal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Jose NOR*CAL Posts: 3,080	Re: It's never easy ! wow this is a pisser!!! Thanks Chief I'll heat it up and see what gives!! So hows the new place in Holister? __________________ 1960 Apache long bed fleet L6 250 Clifford intake 2 bbl carb. Langdon cast headers with dual exhaust and bellflower tips. T-5 5 speed, power steering and power disc brakes. "Over, Around or through it... "

10-13-2010, 04:12 PM	#6
Clyde65 1965 Chevy C10, 2005 4.8L/4l60 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 8,541	Re: It's never easy ! My theory has always been if it still wont come off, piss on it! __________________ Clyde65 Rebuild of Clyde http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...84#post8338184 69 Aristocrat Lo Liner build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...84#post7561684 *support our troops!*

10-13-2010, 11:01 PM	#7
fryer1979 Redneck Hillbilly Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Backwoods Posts: 1,307	Re: It's never easy ! I've had really good luck mixing the PB and WD-40. Normally on old and stuck brake lines though I'll cut the lines as close to the fittings as possible. Then I can use a socket and bench vise to take them apart. Slide the fittings back on the line and put a new double flare on the line. Good to go. A double flaring set is fairly cheap (my local non-chain parts house sells a Lysle set for about $35), as is a hand tubing bender to help make the new lines you would need anyway. I just got really tired of soaking and waiting like you are, then soaking and waiting some more, trying to be extra careful, then just breaking the lines anyway. After switching my methods my projects like this got a lot shorter and much cleaner. Just my .02

10-14-2010, 06:31 AM	#9
Born Lucky Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: St Charles MO Posts: 481	Re: It's never easy ! KROIL by Kano Labs Look no further as there is no better!!!

10-16-2010, 10:06 PM	#10
slepysal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Jose NOR*CAL Posts: 3,080	Re: It's never easy ! Well a little heat and off it came. I used part of the old clutch pushrod and an MP push rod for the brake push rod giving me the extra 1-1.5 inch I needed . Now I just need to fab up the rear brake line ( boooooo) and blead it then it should be good to go , or stop __________________ 1960 Apache long bed fleet L6 250 Clifford intake 2 bbl carb. Langdon cast headers with dual exhaust and bellflower tips. T-5 5 speed, power steering and power disc brakes. "Over, Around or through it... "



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