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rear helper bags
Anybody have this? I'm satisfied with my suspension but want to put something heavier in the bed at times. This seems like a good compromise.
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Re: rear helper bags
I put something similar in my 2006 Silverado (leafs) recently. It works good.
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Re: rear helper bags
Not trying to hyjack the thread but how about something like this:
http://www.jegs.com/i/Air+Lift/022/60736/10002/-1 http://www.jegs.com/InstallationInst.../022-60783.pdf Seems like this would be much easier to install (assuming you now have coil springs). I don't have actual experience using either, but I too have contemplated adding something for extra load carrying capacity. Last edited by lakeroadster; 10-13-2010 at 07:57 PM. |
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Re: rear helper bags
The Jegs kit is what Im planning to use in my El Camino and possibly in my truck later on. A friend of mine swears by them.
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Re: rear helper bags
This is what I have. The kit is from Jegs it's for a jeep if I remember right. I had to drill a hole in the rubber pads for the air line and that was all. No more bottoming out either.
![]() ![]() Ran the air lines back and made them the tag holders.They are great and I haven't had any air since I got them aired up.
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Re: rear helper bags
I just went with air shocks I had from an old S10; I mounted a schrader valve next to the license plate. I wouldn’t depend on it for a ton of weight but it helps with a little load.
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Re: rear helper bags
I'm with andy on this. I have a set of those for a a/g body in the back of the burb. I have 4 inch truck lowering coils in the back, and the rear axle was slamming into the frame every time I'd floor the throttle. They work great.
I wouldn't recomend air shocks. The hock mounting points on these trucks rear end are lame and break easily. Last edited by Longhorn Man; 10-13-2010 at 10:05 PM. |
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Re: rear helper bags
I have air shocks now but they raise my truck up when I put air in them . Looks like the helper bags would just help with the load & not lift the back end & I could then run good shocks on the rear...
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its all about the +6 inches
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Re: rear helper bags
they'll lift. They'll lift a whole lote more than you'd guess.
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Re: rear helper bags
thats not what I wanted to hear...
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Re: rear helper bags
The down side to air shocks is a harsher ride, all the time. You have to keep a certain amount of air in air shocks all the time or they will be damaged. With the air spring if you let the air pressure down they won't change the spring rate and the ride won't be affected, thus the ride quality isn't changed. If you need to carry a load in the truck then you air up the spring, which will at that point change the ride quality. Which is what the original post by Mondo was about.
The air springs locate in the coil springs, and the coil spring mounts are structural support locations for the truck suspension, which is were load is supposed to be applied. Shock mounts were never intended to hold up the truck, just for rebound. Last edited by lakeroadster; 03-07-2011 at 01:45 PM. |
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Re: rear helper bags
Thanks Kid.
Couple other things to do first but I'll plan on buying these. I too like the idea of them being seperate from the coil springs... nothing to rub |
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Re: rear helper bags
Bringing this back I guess for a few questions. First if I am using TJ springs in the rear of a 67 and lowered shocks I would need a Jeep helper air bag set up correct? How much of a helper is it really? Thanks guys!!!!
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Re: rear helper bags
I'd use a kit for the truck.
The bags in the coil are totally adjustable with air pressure.That's the beauty of them.You have a minimum pressure,so they don't pinch or dislodge,without changing ride height.The more air you add the more the rear comes up.But you can firm it up w/o lifting.These bags add a true 1,500# of spring capacity.At least the Air Lifts do.That's what I've used.
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Re: rear helper bags
I've used the Air lifts for years. They work great and are cheap!
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I've had my setup for over a year now. I can't see any problems at all with it. Once you inflat the bag it's there, it ant going to move on you. You would have to loose all the rear end weight to let it shift.
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Re: rear helper bags
One thing I don't get about these bags is how they don't rub a hole. With all the issues of true air suspension bags not being able to rub anything due to damage, how do these bags remain in tact while applying pressure to a moving spring?
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Re: rear helper bags
I understand this is an old thread, but I would like to add to the load capacity of my 70 C-10. I can't find an application specific airlift 1000 style helper bag. What part number are you guys using? Would I be better off just replacing the springs with a bag kit? I like the factory ride hight and comfortable ride. Any suggestions pros/cons either way? I've done a lot of reading, I would like comments from people who have first hand experience with these systems.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: rear helper bags
The one the "Kid" used is still for sale... pretty basic but at least you have one recommendation for it.
https://www.performanceonline.com/19...-Leaf-Springs/ I changed my rear springs to a 6in lowered spring with 500lb rating by Early Classic a long time ago. Haven't pursued this any further. |
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I give you the part number in my signature. At the time I ordered them they didn't have a kit per our models. now they do.
I have these bags in all 4 corners of my 71 and I have a complete air ride system sitting in the garage now for over 5 years that I just can't bring myself to install. My truck rides like a new car and it handles darn good for a LWB truck. I'm not going to screw that up for a air ride system. My rear bags are over 10 years old the fronts are 5 years old. According to there website this is for a 71 Blazer. ![]() https://www.airliftcompany.com/shop/81560/
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Re: rear helper bags
Since this was brought back up...
Andy did you add spacers to yours? If so how did you determine how much to space this down. I don't haul much except a cooler, a few tools and my suitcases. But this is interesting to try and the price is not bad. Thanks, Dave
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Dave I did order extra spacers just for insurance that what I did worked. I had them put the same spacer as the kit came with. I didn't want to drill a hole through the rails for the air line fittings to come out the top. So I used the extra spacers to drill and angle the air line into the bag. The fronts I mounted upside down and just have the air line come out of the lower a arm. ![]()
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