The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1967 - 1972 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-05-2010, 09:03 PM   #1
So.Cal.Super
It'll Buff Out!
 
So.Cal.Super's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: San Diego
Posts: 603
Fuel sock Question

I pulled the Tank and my Fuel strainer sock is black with only a spot about the size of a dime looking like it was pulling fuel. I see LMC has the sending unit but not the sock, does anyone know if I order the sending unit does it come with one? Also can I just not install the sock and reconnect my filter between the pump and tank or am I going to be back to Vapor lock issues.

Thanks
__________________
"Instructions are just another mans opinion"

Become a Supporting Member
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/payments.php

Man Card Rules
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=634550

72 Chevy Cheyenne Super 400 LWB
So.Cal.Super is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2010, 09:31 PM   #2
68gmsee
Active Member
 
68gmsee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Centrally located between Houston, Austin and Waco. BCS area.
Posts: 7,947
Re: Fuel sock Question

IIRC it comes with the sock. I left the sock off when I replaced mine. I have a filter on the fuel line before the fuel pump and the one in the carb which I change about every 3-4 months. I figured it's easier to change those.
68gmsee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2010, 10:41 PM   #3
Longhorn Man
its all about the +6 inches
 
Longhorn Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Hilliard Ohio
Posts: 2,693
Re: Fuel sock Question

if vapor lock is an issue, then you want as few restrictions before the pump, this means no filters and no sock.
I personally don't understand why the hell anyone would want a sock in the tank anyways. I would MUCH rather replace a filter under the hood than pulling the seat and opening the tank.

Last edited by Longhorn Man; 12-06-2010 at 12:52 AM.
Longhorn Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2010, 10:44 PM   #4
So.Cal.Super
It'll Buff Out!
 
So.Cal.Super's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: San Diego
Posts: 603
Re: Fuel sock Question

Thanks for the Reply and here are some pics of what the old sock looked like.



__________________
"Instructions are just another mans opinion"

Become a Supporting Member
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/payments.php

Man Card Rules
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=634550

72 Chevy Cheyenne Super 400 LWB

Last edited by So.Cal.Super; 12-05-2010 at 11:00 PM. Reason: pic loading problems
So.Cal.Super is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2010, 11:15 PM   #5
So.Cal.Super
It'll Buff Out!
 
So.Cal.Super's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: San Diego
Posts: 603
Re: Fuel sock Question

thanks Andy,
let me back track with a little more info on the vapor lock. two years ago I added a nice frame mounted filter between the tank and pump and ran it for a year before I had a problem. I also had no Idea the sock was this bad. I have the in carb filter but would love to leave the sock off and re connect the better filter.

let me know if you have any more thoughts with a bit more info.

I also have a new pump and regulator with gauge on the truck now. thats how I saw the problem of fuel PSI dropping the longer I revved the truck. once I ran out of fuel in the line she was falling on her face.

filter specs
Fuel Filter Style Canister
Inlet Quantity One
Inlet Size 3/8 in.
Inlet Attachment Female threads
Outlet Quantity One
Outlet Size 3/8 in.
Outlet Attachment Female threads
Filter Element Included Yes
Smallest Particle Filtered 10 microns
Filter Element Material Fabric
Filter Housing Material Aluminum
Filter Housing Finish Red anodized/Nickel plated
Overall Length (in) 6.125 in.
Outside Diameter (in) 3.250 in.
Mounting Bracket Included Yes
Fittings Included No
Clamps Included No
Maximum Fuel Pressure (psi) 200
Quantity Sold individually.


Thanks
__________________
"Instructions are just another mans opinion"

Become a Supporting Member
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/payments.php

Man Card Rules
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=634550

72 Chevy Cheyenne Super 400 LWB
So.Cal.Super is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2010, 11:19 PM   #6
So.Cal.Super
It'll Buff Out!
 
So.Cal.Super's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: San Diego
Posts: 603
Re: Fuel sock Question

its one of these

[IMG][/IMG]
__________________
"Instructions are just another mans opinion"

Become a Supporting Member
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/payments.php

Man Card Rules
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=634550

72 Chevy Cheyenne Super 400 LWB
So.Cal.Super is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2010, 12:07 AM   #7
LockDoc
The Older Generation


 
LockDoc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Montezuma, Iowa
Posts: 25,465
Re: Fuel sock Question

-
If you decide you want to use the sock go to your GM dealer and order #5651705. I think it was about 15 bucks when I ordered mine...

LockDoc
__________________
Leon

Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles

(My Dually Pickup Project Thread)

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820

-
LockDoc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2010, 12:53 AM   #8
Longhorn Man
its all about the +6 inches
 
Longhorn Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Hilliard Ohio
Posts: 2,693
Re: Fuel sock Question

I've ripped mine off of every truck I've owned

We all know that if you increase pressure, you increase the boiling point. That's why we pressurize the rad, to keep the coolant from boiling at 212 degrees (talking straight water)
Now, if you decrease the pressure, then you are decreasing the boiling point. Any restriction between the pump and the tank will cause a decrease in pressure, just like when your milkshake is too thick and you suck so hard that the straw colapses.
Vapor lock is nothing more than boiling gas in the fuel line and/or in the carb.
Reduce the number of restrictions in the fuel line before the pump, and you reduce the odds of boiling the fuel.

That sock was certinaly a restriction, and did in fact reduce the boiling point, and MIGHT have been the vapor lock issue. Throw it away and put the tank back together. Install a quality filter after the pump (like the one you described above) and call it a day. With your guage you will probably see the improvement

Last edited by Longhorn Man; 12-06-2010 at 12:59 AM.
Longhorn Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2010, 01:41 AM   #9
So.Cal.Super
It'll Buff Out!
 
So.Cal.Super's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: San Diego
Posts: 603
Re: Fuel sock Question

Thanks everyone, I will write down that part number for future ref.
__________________
"Instructions are just another mans opinion"

Become a Supporting Member
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/payments.php

Man Card Rules
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=634550

72 Chevy Cheyenne Super 400 LWB
So.Cal.Super is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2010, 07:38 AM   #10
cdowns
Senior Member
 
cdowns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: daytonabeach
Posts: 22,956
Re: Fuel sock Question

i've made fuel socks out of stainless steel mesh, have also run quite a few vehicles without them

lots of "vapor lock" issues are due to poor or no venting of gastanks
lazyman rubber fuel lines layin on manifolds too
edelbrock carbs without phenolic spacers too
__________________
71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane

MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF

DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK

TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

Last edited by cdowns; 12-06-2010 at 09:33 AM.
cdowns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2010, 09:17 AM   #11
coloradosean2009
Registered User
 
coloradosean2009's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 291
Re: Fuel sock Question

I finally got off my butt and cleaned out my tank with acid and powerwasher. It made all the difference in the world. Then you can do like the mighty longhornman says and ditch the sock without any worries.
__________________
__________________________________________

Sean
1972 C20
2005 4Runner

coloradosean2009 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2010, 05:32 PM   #12
Lemield
Registered User
 
Lemield's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Arvada Colorado
Posts: 1,321
Re: Fuel sock Question

I had a feed problem from my rear tank on my C20 since I bought it from the PO. It would run fine for a while and then act as if it were running out of fuel. He even installed an electric fuel pump wired to a toggle switch to try to solve the problem. It still did it. Mostly happened on the highway. Took the tank out and found a sock like the one pictured....in very bad condition. Tossed it, cleaned out the tank and put it back together. It feeds perfectly now...no need to even turn on the electric pump anymore. I didn't think that the sock could have restricted it but it appears as though that was the problem on my truck.
__________________
Larry

1949 Willys CJ2A, Kubota Turbo Diesel engine, Warn Overdrive, 11 inch brakes, 12volt, Warn M8000 Winch "Little Green"
1970 Rustoleum Roller Red C20 Custom Camper 454 TH400 "Big Red"
1971 K20 6.2 Turbo Diesel 4x4 4spd Ranger Overdrive "Pumpkin Wagon"
2005 VW Beetle Diesel 44+ MPG "Silver Bullet"
Lemield is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2011, 06:16 PM   #13
NoNeck
Registered User
 
NoNeck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 1,108
Re: Fuel sock Question

A partially clogged fuel sock in and of itself would be a small restriction, but an even larger restriction would be if a piece of a deteriorated sock found its way into the fuel inlet line.

I had that happen one time on an old Camaro. If you pull your fuel sender assembly and find only part of your original sock, chances are that it has migrated into the lines.

NoNeck
__________________
2016 RAM Laramie HEMI
1966 Fairlane GT/A, 390/335 HP

If it costs you a dollar to make a friend, KEEP THE DOLLAR.
If it costs you a friend to make a dollar, KEEP THE FRIEND.

Last edited by NoNeck; 05-02-2011 at 06:16 PM.
NoNeck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2015, 05:24 PM   #14
corndoggydogg
Registered User
 
corndoggydogg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Maple Valley, WA
Posts: 83
Re: Fuel sock Question

ClassicParts.com sells the sock by itself. Part #23-598 (3/8") for $11.95 and Part #23-599 (5/16") for $14.95.
__________________
1972 GMC 1/2 Ton
Long Bed
350
My build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...73#post6961273
corndoggydogg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2015, 07:28 PM   #15
truckster
Senior Member
 
truckster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Orem, Utah
Posts: 7,896
Re: Fuel sock Question

Ditch the sock. I think it causes more problems than it solves.
truckster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2015, 07:54 PM   #16
leftybass209
Registered User
 
leftybass209's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Modesto, CA
Posts: 2,188
Re: Fuel sock Question

I haven't had a problem with the fuel sock, and think these fuel systems could use all the help they can get with filtering out contaminates. While I understand they do deteriorate, it's not as if they fall apart in a year. It has taken me all of 15 minutes to switch out the sock. I think it's something that is neglected, and shouldn't have been left to sit in a truck unmonitored for 45 years.
leftybass209 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2015, 10:40 PM   #17
LockDoc
The Older Generation


 
LockDoc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Montezuma, Iowa
Posts: 25,465
Re: Fuel sock Question

Wow, I forgot about this thread. Might be good to bring it back up though....

Quote:
Originally Posted by truckster View Post
Ditch the sock. I think it causes more problems than it solves.
I'll keep mine, thanks for the recommendation tho....

Quote:
Originally Posted by leftybass209 View Post
I haven't had a problem with the fuel sock, and think these fuel systems could use all the help they can get with filtering out contaminates. While I understand they do deteriorate, it's not as if they fall apart in a year. It has taken me all of 15 minutes to switch out the sock. I think it's something that is neglected, and shouldn't have been left to sit in a truck unmonitored for 45 years.

AMEN to that!

LockDoc
__________________
Leon

Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles

(My Dually Pickup Project Thread)

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820

-
LockDoc is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:09 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com