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Izzy · 03-07-2003, 12:35 PM

I put in a new alternator this morning and the thing still won't start.

When I turn the igntion I can hear my air compressor's 12volt clutch engauging but nothing else??

Starter??Ignition switch??Starter solenoid??

Help a PO'd 73-87 owner out.

LOHRTBT · 03-07-2003, 12:46 PM

Sounds to me like your starter more specific..your Solenoid is shot.

Izzy · 03-07-2003, 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by LOHRTBT
Sounds to me like your starter more specific..your Solenoid is shot.

And to think the truck has no air and no way to get air to it so I can get to the solenoid.

Could I reach it from the engine bay or do I need to go from underneath?
I'm gonna have to pull all the lines and get some shrader valves and air this bish up manually.

LOHRTBT · 03-07-2003, 12:52 PM

lmao!! YOu can try banging on the solenoid...just beside the starter...its attached to it. with a wooden broom handle and have your old lady try starting it. More than likely it will start like that..unless its totally fried.

Izzy · 03-07-2003, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by LOHRTBT
lmao!! YOu can try banging on the solenoid...just beside the starter...its attached to it. with a wooden broom handle and have your old lady try starting it. More than likely it will start like that..unless its totally fried.

I'll try that on my lunch later. I'll let you guys know. I was hoping it wasn't starter related but had a feeling that's what it was.

LOHRTBT · 03-07-2003, 12:58 PM

At least you have a new alt now!!

Low87 · 03-07-2003, 02:32 PM

Sounds like you need to keep Jessie away from it. Just a thought....

low 84 · 03-07-2003, 02:38 PM

that sux man. try banging on the starter itself with a hammer, it could be catching inside the case.

Tom · 03-07-2003, 03:34 PM

if all your emissions crap is out the way, and your really skinny, you can [after hours of trying] replace the starter from the engine bay. I am 5' 10" and 135 pounds, with maybe 11% body fat, and I would have to sit in the engine bay to do it. Good luck!!

LOHRTBT · 03-07-2003, 04:08 PM

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Originally posted by Tom
I am 5' 10" and 135 pounds, with maybe 11% body fat, and I would have to sit in the engine bay to do it. Good luck!!

LMAO!! I dont think Izzy will be the man for the job. he needs a featherweight like yourself to get off in there!! lol

LOHRTBT · 03-07-2003, 04:09 PM

and damn....11% body fat?? at 135 lbs??? damn man...if you lost your fat you would be under a Buck O Five!!
lol sorry...just messin with you

Low87 · 03-07-2003, 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by Tom
I am 5' 10" and 135 pounds, with maybe 11% body fat

Damn, I hope it's not windy in AZ. You wear weighted shoes?

79BIG10 · 03-07-2003, 04:20 PM

Izzy would be more like me having to lift the truck up and get under there.

82 Silverado 4X · 03-07-2003, 04:53 PM

Have you tried turning on the headlights and hit the key with someone watching the lights?
If lights go out when you hit the key you may need to check your battery, battery connections and the battery cable connections at the starter solonoid.

Izzy · 03-07-2003, 07:33 PM

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Originally posted by 79BIG10
Izzy would be more like me having to lift the truck up and get under there.

If I can just get the bags aired up I'll be fine. I'm no featherweight that's for sure. *shaking keg gut*

Izzy · 03-07-2003, 07:34 PM

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Originally posted by 82 Silverado 4X
Have you tried turning on the headlights and hit the key with someone watching the lights?
If lights go out when you hit the key you may need to check your battery, battery connections and the battery cable connections at the starter solonoid.

Lights all work when igntion is on. I'm gonna get some T fitting so I can manually fill the bags and replace the starter next weekend and the solenoid. Probably replace all wires that go to and from it while I'm down there.

LOHRTBT · 03-07-2003, 07:37 PM

Did you try bangin on the starter yet?? ANd I thought you had compressors that aired up your bag..or just the air commander/??

Tom · 03-07-2003, 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by Low87

Damn, I hope it's not windy in AZ.

Nope, no wind, or rain, or clouds, or trees or grass..............

Izzy · 03-07-2003, 07:58 PM

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Originally posted by LOHRTBT
Did you try bangin on the starter yet?? ANd I thought you had compressors that aired up your bag..or just the air commander/??

Yep, no dice. Nope only the air commander. I'm gonna get a portable comp that runs off the cigarette lighter now.

c10scotty · 03-07-2003, 11:07 PM

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Yep, no dice. Nope only the air commander. I'm gonna get a portable comp that runs off the cigarette lighter now.

dont try that now or itll never start

Izzy · 03-08-2003, 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by c10scotty

dont try that now or itll never start

Oh I know that, I may not know the most about fixing the drivetrain but I know that much.

Izzy · 03-16-2003, 03:02 AM

Dammit. Put in a new ignition module, no dice. Put in a new starter, no dice.

We traced the problem between the igntion to the starter. We're thinking the igntion switch. Because we put a screwdriver across the starter posts and it had power so it's nothing after that point. Igntion switch is under the dash on the column, correct?

BTW I got the drip rails finally finished, cut down shift arm for billet knob to fit and the hood on. Should have the pan body worked tomorrow and have the POS running I hope.

BaggedC10 · 03-16-2003, 03:16 AM

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Originally posted by fiveeightchevy
BTW I got the drip rails finally finished, cut down shift arm for billet knob to fit and the hood on. Should have the pan body worked tomorrow and have the POS running I hope.

Pics.???

Sounds like it's coming along well.

What's next?

79BIG10 · 03-16-2003, 05:42 AM

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Originally posted by fiveeightchevy
Dammit. Put in a new ignition module, no dice. Put in a new starter, no dice.
We traced the problem between the igntion to the starter. We're thinking the igntion switch. Because we put a screwdriver across the starter posts and it had power so it's nothing after that point. Igntion switch is under the dash on the column, correct?

Izzy- Yes you're right. To get to it you need to take off the lower part of the dash panel. Then loosen the 4 nuts that are holding up a U shaped brace. The column will then be loose enough to drop down a bit and you can then see the wires grouped together going into the switch about halfway down the column. Remove the plastic connections then you can unbolt the ignition switch. Best to have someone with small hands remove the connection. Also make sure the battery is disconnected.

Izzy · 03-17-2003, 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by 79BIG10

Izzy- Yes you're right. To get to it you need to take off the lower part of the dash panel. Then loosen the 4 nuts that are holding up a U shaped brace. The column will then be loose enough to drop down a bit and you can then see the wires grouped together going into the switch about halfway down the column. Remove the plastic connections then you can unbolt the ignition switch. Best to have someone with small hands remove the connection. Also make sure the battery is disconnected.

Thanks I was able to get it done but this didn't even fix it.

Could it be something w/ the igntion inside of the column, maybe the lock cylinder itself?
This is really pissing me off.

03-07-2003, 12:35 PM	#1
Izzy Trucker. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 1,364	Alright, what the hell?? I put in a new alternator this morning and the thing still won't start. When I turn the igntion I can hear my air compressor's 12volt clutch engauging but nothing else?? Starter??Ignition switch??Starter solenoid?? Help a PO'd 73-87 owner out.

03-07-2003, 12:46 PM	#2
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	Sounds to me like your starter more specific..your Solenoid is shot. __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

03-07-2003, 12:52 PM	#4
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	lmao!! YOu can try banging on the solenoid...just beside the starter...its attached to it. with a wooden broom handle and have your old lady try starting it. More than likely it will start like that..unless its totally fried. __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

03-07-2003, 12:58 PM	#6
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	At least you have a new alt now!! __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

03-07-2003, 02:32 PM	#7
Low87 been here longer than Liz Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Broken Arrow, OK Posts: 2,437	Sounds like you need to keep Jessie away from it. Just a thought.... __________________ ~Greg~ Mac's Garage '87 SWB 6/8 drop "Piso" '08 CCSB Silverado DD the departed '89 GMC K5 Jimmy 4x4 "Rusty Nuts" '77 Chevy K5 Blazer 2wd '83 Chevy stepside "You get what you pay for" - Mike 'swervin ervin' Ervin

03-07-2003, 02:38 PM	#8
low 84 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,144	that sux man. try banging on the starter itself with a hammer, it could be catching inside the case. __________________ '51 F100, backhalf with a narrowed 9 and coil overs, 18.5" mickeys, monte front clip, +400" sbc in the works '05 1500 Crew Cab RIP '84 swb 5/7 drop, solid cammed 408 w/ fully ported dart heads, th350 w/ 10 inch hughes, 12 bolt w/ 3.73 richmonds and a locker '80 swb 4x4 in progress: 7" lift, 350 th350/np205, d44 and 1.5" ORD tie rod, 14BFF w/discs , armored diff covers, 40" MTR's

03-07-2003, 03:34 PM	#9
Tom driving is in my blood Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 5,748	if all your emissions crap is out the way, and your really skinny, you can [after hours of trying] replace the starter from the engine bay. I am 5' 10" and 135 pounds, with maybe 11% body fat, and I would have to sit in the engine bay to do it. Good luck!! __________________ -78 c10 short/step: 388cid, M20, 5/5 drop, lots more. Playtoy and first vehicle. -98 c1500 x-cab: 5.7L, 17" rims, 5/6 drop, flowmaster, helper bags,NBS rear disk brakes. -02 Suburban 4x4: leveled front -CBR600F4i, CBR600RR, CBR1000RR, and standup skis DISCLAIMER: I cant spell for the life of me.

03-07-2003, 04:09 PM	#11
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	and damn....11% body fat?? at 135 lbs??? damn man...if you lost your fat you would be under a Buck O Five!! lol sorry...just messin with you __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

03-07-2003, 04:20 PM	#13
79BIG10 I'm back with 2nd truck! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 3,774	Izzy would be more like me having to lift the truck up and get under there. __________________ 1979 Chevrolet Bonanza Big10 "Tootsie Roll" 1985 Chevrolet Silverado (wife's) Member of the Southern Bowties Club "Don't underestimate how sexy a fat man who drinks to excess can be." Homer Simpson

03-07-2003, 04:53 PM	#14
82 Silverado 4X Genuine Chevrolet Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South West Pennsylvania. Posts: 582	Have you tried turning on the headlights and hit the key with someone watching the lights? If lights go out when you hit the key you may need to check your battery, battery connections and the battery cable connections at the starter solonoid. __________________ George 82 Silverado LWB 4x4 350 SM465 NP208 77 Chevrolet Blazer Chalet 400 TH350 NP203

03-07-2003, 07:37 PM	#17
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	Did you try bangin on the starter yet?? ANd I thought you had compressors that aired up your bag..or just the air commander/?? __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

03-16-2003, 03:02 AM	#22
Izzy Trucker. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 1,364	Dammit. Put in a new ignition module, no dice. Put in a new starter, no dice. We traced the problem between the igntion to the starter. We're thinking the igntion switch. Because we put a screwdriver across the starter posts and it had power so it's nothing after that point. Igntion switch is under the dash on the column, correct? BTW I got the drip rails finally finished, cut down shift arm for billet knob to fit and the hood on. Should have the pan body worked tomorrow and have the POS running I hope.



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