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Tomahawk30 · 01-09-2011, 08:18 PM

Hi guys,

I'm looking at picking up a 1970 shortbox stepside GMC 4x4... He's had it for sale (not listed anywhere that I can find) for a while now, and last I saw he was asking $3000 OBO. I was thinking of offering him around $2500 for it. Doesn't look to terribly rusted, although it does need some bodywork on the front fenders, cab, and doors. The kick panels are both very solid, cab corners are solid, and it needs one of the two door sills replaced. Looking at the SPID, it looks like it was an original black shortbox, although it doesn't show anything for the engine / transmission combo. Currently has a 350 / 4speed setup. I loaded some pics I snapped into a photo gallery... Just looking for some input as to what people have seen comparable trucks for. I know they aren't really worth a ton fixed up, but I thought this might be a fun first build for me if I don't just buy a finished product. Thanks!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jakesau...7625661728149/

Tomahawk30 · 01-09-2011, 11:45 PM

Update:
Talked to the owner this evening. The truck is actually a 69. He says he'd take $2500 and is open to offers. Thinking I can probably get it for $2000 or so after talking to him... Engine is actually a recently built 383. Only rust aside from mild surface rust is under the passenger door. He's leaving the keys out for me to fire it up and give it a drive up the driveway tomorrow. Not sure if any of this actually changes anything in regards to a realistic value, but I'm thinking it would be a good buy at $2000... Thoughts, comments, etc?

butters_72 · 01-09-2011, 11:57 PM

i just picked up a 70 4x4 lwb with a 350/th400 decent shape has some suface rust in normal places but the interior is beautiful, all original and i paid 2500, so sounds like your getting a decent deal at 2000

Tomahawk30 · 01-10-2011, 12:02 AM

Ya, the interior needs some work on this one, but nothing too major. It was an A/C truck, but doesn't have the A/C equipment in it. Forgot to ask if he had the parts or not. Needs a dash pad, and I'd want to get back to the original buckets seats at some point.

hugger6933 · 01-10-2011, 12:05 AM

What changed you price from the 2500 to the 2000 without a test drive. I would think depending on how recent the 383 is 2500 is still souding pretty good to me. I would make sure or try to that the 4 wheel drive stuff works as it should. That stuff can break a projects budget if you have one. You said it has a 4 speed I think it was 70 before you could get a auto in these trucks with 4wd. Jim

Tomahawk30 · 01-10-2011, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by hugger6933

What changed you price from the 2500 to the 2000 without a test drive. I would think depending on how recent the 383 is 2500 is still souding pretty good to me. I would make sure or try to that the 4 wheel drive stuff works as it should. That stuff can break a projects budget if you have one. You said it has a 4 speed I think it was 70 before you could get a auto in these trucks with 4wd. Jim

Mistype on the 4speed... I guess a manual would be a 3 speed? Regarding the price, he had a sign laying in the seat saying $3000 OBO. In talking to him, he said he'd take $2500 for sure, and if I thought that was high I could throw him an offer. I'm thinking $2000 - $2250 would get it done, or at least that was my impression...

butters_72 · 01-10-2011, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Tomahawk30

Ya, the interior needs some work on this one, but nothing too major. It was an A/C truck, but doesn't have the A/C equipment in it. Forgot to ask if he had the parts or not. Needs a dash pad, and I'd want to get back to the original buckets seats at some point.

im not into the bucket seats but if you could get all the original a/c equiptment that goes with it that would be a big bonus, the one i just got has all that still in it and it works, i have lots of extra a/c parts, if you need anything PM me

Tomahawk30 · 01-10-2011, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by butters_72

im not into the bucket seats but if you could get all the original a/c equiptment that goes with it that would be a big bonus, the one i just got has all that still in it and it works, i have lots of extra a/c parts, if you need anything PM me

Good deal, thanks Butters!

71sierragrande · 01-10-2011, 01:05 AM

I like that truck. Its a decent deal even at $2500 with the 4WD. All the depreciation has already occurred, so it will never be worth less than what it is now. Its a cant miss, and we need to save more GMC's, especially 4x4's!

Tomahawk30 · 01-10-2011, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 71sierragrande

I like that truck. Its a decent deal even at $2500 with the 4WD. All the depreciation has already occurred, so it will never be worth less than what it is now. Its a cant miss, and we need to save more GMC's, especially 4x4's!

Ya, that's the conclusion I'm coming to as well. Now to try to find some pictures of shortbox stepside GMCs... Doesn't seem to be many of them posted, at least that I've found so far. Let alone black ones....

71sierragrande · 01-10-2011, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Tomahawk30

Ya, that's the conclusion I'm coming to as well. Now to try to find some pictures of shortbox stepside GMCs... Doesn't seem to be many of them posted, at least that I've found so far. Let alone black ones....

No, not many. Thats cuz the GMC buyers were looking to do work with them and usually went with the long fleet. Thats what I have and havent seen many shorties in person. Rare is always good...

Tomahawk30 · 02-04-2011, 07:13 PM

Just a quick update... Finally closed on our house this week, and with my tax return back, I went ahead and picked this one up. I did end up getting it for $2000. All of the 4x4 equipment is there, but I need to hook the front driveline back up. He said he's not sure that it will fit with the currently installed headers, so I may have to replace at least the passenger side to make space. The 383 seems VERY strong and appears to be dialed in pretty well, so I think I did fairly well even with the 4wd concerns. It definitely needs some work, but it'll make a good driver project for my son and I as he approaches driving age. I may have to fight the urge to move the 383 to my Impala though....

swamp rat · 02-04-2011, 08:52 PM

I think ya did well, and if you change your mind i'll come down and take it off your hands for ya.

Tomahawk30 · 02-05-2011, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by swamp rat

I think ya did well, and if you change your mind i'll come down and take it off your hands for ya.

Good to know!

I'm kinda fickle sometimes, so you never know!

CORSAIR · 02-05-2011, 12:56 AM

I say Buy it if your out let me know I'm on a plane with cash and road trip home.
It sounds like like you are sold on it just go pull the trigger? remember these are
Forty year old trucks they are not new or perfect but that whats cool is the enjoyment of restoring or fixing them up that is worth the $2000 GOOD LUCK

CORSAIR

Vintage Windmills · 02-05-2011, 11:47 AM

Good score! If no engine or tranny is listed on SPID, it would have originally came with the 250 six and 3spd manual.

**Joesjunk** · 02-05-2011, 12:07 PM

It looks like the vin starts with a KE, so it would have been a 307 V-8 originally, "K" for 4 wheel drive, and "E" for a V-8. There would be an "S" for a six cylinder

steelscout · 02-05-2011, 12:44 PM

Nice find!!! Good looking truck!!!
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swamp rat · 02-05-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tomahawk30

Good to know!

I'm kinda fickle sometimes, so you never know!

Well I am beginning to think there won't be a road trip! LOL Glad your getting over the buyers remorse, its a sweet truck..

Tomahawk30 · 02-05-2011, 11:41 PM

Ya, I went out and picked it up this morning and drove it home. It definitely needs some work, but I think I made out pretty well... Pretty rare to find a good deal on what you actually are looking for within five minutes of the house. Especially out here in the desert where these trucks are few and far between to begin with!

VA72C10 · 02-06-2011, 12:38 AM

Good score! Keep us up to date as you work on it!

Booya · 02-16-2011, 12:31 AM

Nice find, imagine that another black vehicle..lol I think you did good, I gave the same amount for mine. Are you going to keep it a step side or looking for a wide box?

Tomahawk30 · 02-16-2011, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Booya

Nice find, imagine that another black vehicle..lol I think you did good, I gave the same amount for mine. Are you going to keep it a step side or looking for a wide box?

Ya, for some reason I'm just a glutton for punishment on the black rigs. I'm actually going to work on this one with Connor so he has something to drive when he turns 16. So far he says he likes red, but who knows what he'll want by the time we are ready for paint. Probably stick with a stepside though just for something different.

Booya · 02-16-2011, 04:07 PM

Wow, can't believe he's that old already, time sure flys by. Make sure you do a build thread.

Tomahawk30 · 02-16-2011, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Booya

Wow, can't believe he's that old already, time sure flys by. Make sure you do a build thread.

Well, we have a little time yet... He'll be 14 in June. You wouldn't recognize him though. He's probably close to 6'2" now.

01-09-2011, 08:18 PM	#1
Tomahawk30 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Russellville, KY Posts: 956	Thinking of buying a project... Looking for input Hi guys, I'm looking at picking up a 1970 shortbox stepside GMC 4x4... He's had it for sale (not listed anywhere that I can find) for a while now, and last I saw he was asking $3000 OBO. I was thinking of offering him around $2500 for it. Doesn't look to terribly rusted, although it does need some bodywork on the front fenders, cab, and doors. The kick panels are both very solid, cab corners are solid, and it needs one of the two door sills replaced. Looking at the SPID, it looks like it was an original black shortbox, although it doesn't show anything for the engine / transmission combo. Currently has a 350 / 4speed setup. I loaded some pics I snapped into a photo gallery... Just looking for some input as to what people have seen comparable trucks for. I know they aren't really worth a ton fixed up, but I thought this might be a fun first build for me if I don't just buy a finished product. Thanks! http://www.flickr.com/photos/jakesau...7625661728149/ __________________ 1979 Silverado C10 Shortbox - Photo Album 1977 Silverado K20 Camper Special - Photo Album 1972 C10 Custom Deluxe Highlander - sold 1971 Cheyenne Super Longhorn -sold 1972 Cheyenne Super SWB 4x4 -sold, bought back, sold again... I'm dumb. 1970 Chevy C10 SWB "Sprout" -sold 1972 Cheyenne K20 -sold 1969 GMC Shortbox Stepside 4x4 -sold 1972 GMC Jimmy 4x4 -sold

01-09-2011, 11:45 PM	#2
Tomahawk30 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Russellville, KY Posts: 956	Re: Thinking of buying a project... Looking for input Update: Talked to the owner this evening. The truck is actually a 69. He says he'd take $2500 and is open to offers. Thinking I can probably get it for $2000 or so after talking to him... Engine is actually a recently built 383. Only rust aside from mild surface rust is under the passenger door. He's leaving the keys out for me to fire it up and give it a drive up the driveway tomorrow. Not sure if any of this actually changes anything in regards to a realistic value, but I'm thinking it would be a good buy at $2000... Thoughts, comments, etc? __________________ 1979 Silverado C10 Shortbox - Photo Album 1977 Silverado K20 Camper Special - Photo Album 1972 C10 Custom Deluxe Highlander - sold 1971 Cheyenne Super Longhorn -sold 1972 Cheyenne Super SWB 4x4 -sold, bought back, sold again... I'm dumb. 1970 Chevy C10 SWB "Sprout" -sold 1972 Cheyenne K20 -sold 1969 GMC Shortbox Stepside 4x4 -sold 1972 GMC Jimmy 4x4 -sold

01-09-2011, 11:57 PM	#3
butters_72 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Geyserville CA Posts: 18	Re: Thinking of buying a project... Looking for input i just picked up a 70 4x4 lwb with a 350/th400 decent shape has some suface rust in normal places but the interior is beautiful, all original and i paid 2500, so sounds like your getting a decent deal at 2000 __________________ [B][COLOR="Navy"]BUTTERS 72 Chevy longbed C-10 72 Chevy 4x4 Longbed

01-10-2011, 12:02 AM	#4
Tomahawk30 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Russellville, KY Posts: 956	Re: Thinking of buying a project... Looking for input Ya, the interior needs some work on this one, but nothing too major. It was an A/C truck, but doesn't have the A/C equipment in it. Forgot to ask if he had the parts or not. Needs a dash pad, and I'd want to get back to the original buckets seats at some point. __________________ 1979 Silverado C10 Shortbox - Photo Album 1977 Silverado K20 Camper Special - Photo Album 1972 C10 Custom Deluxe Highlander - sold 1971 Cheyenne Super Longhorn -sold 1972 Cheyenne Super SWB 4x4 -sold, bought back, sold again... I'm dumb. 1970 Chevy C10 SWB "Sprout" -sold 1972 Cheyenne K20 -sold 1969 GMC Shortbox Stepside 4x4 -sold 1972 GMC Jimmy 4x4 -sold

01-10-2011, 12:05 AM	#5
hugger6933 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Marianna Arkansas Posts: 7,269	Re: Thinking of buying a project... Looking for input What changed you price from the 2500 to the 2000 without a test drive. I would think depending on how recent the 383 is 2500 is still souding pretty good to me. I would make sure or try to that the 4 wheel drive stuff works as it should. That stuff can break a projects budget if you have one. You said it has a 4 speed I think it was 70 before you could get a auto in these trucks with 4wd. Jim

01-10-2011, 01:05 AM	#9
71sierragrande Petroleum User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 928	Re: Thinking of buying a project... Looking for input I like that truck. Its a decent deal even at $2500 with the 4WD. All the depreciation has already occurred, so it will never be worth less than what it is now. Its a cant miss, and we need to save more GMC's, especially 4x4's! __________________ 1971 GMC Sierra Grande 2WD 1/2 ton, 350/400 auto 2008 Chevy Silverado 2WD 1/2 ton LT1 5.3L auto

02-04-2011, 07:13 PM	#12
Tomahawk30 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Russellville, KY Posts: 956	Re: Thinking of buying a project... Looking for input Just a quick update... Finally closed on our house this week, and with my tax return back, I went ahead and picked this one up. I did end up getting it for $2000. All of the 4x4 equipment is there, but I need to hook the front driveline back up. He said he's not sure that it will fit with the currently installed headers, so I may have to replace at least the passenger side to make space. The 383 seems VERY strong and appears to be dialed in pretty well, so I think I did fairly well even with the 4wd concerns. It definitely needs some work, but it'll make a good driver project for my son and I as he approaches driving age. I may have to fight the urge to move the 383 to my Impala though.... __________________ 1979 Silverado C10 Shortbox - Photo Album 1977 Silverado K20 Camper Special - Photo Album 1972 C10 Custom Deluxe Highlander - sold 1971 Cheyenne Super Longhorn -sold 1972 Cheyenne Super SWB 4x4 -sold, bought back, sold again... I'm dumb. 1970 Chevy C10 SWB "Sprout" -sold 1972 Cheyenne K20 -sold 1969 GMC Shortbox Stepside 4x4 -sold 1972 GMC Jimmy 4x4 -sold

02-04-2011, 08:52 PM	#13
swamp rat Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Spanaway Posts: 8,451	Re: Thinking of buying a project... Looking for input I think ya did well, and if you change your mind i'll come down and take it off your hands for ya. __________________ Mike. Swamp Rat build thread : http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=595019 72 3/4T 4X4 4" BDS Lift 33" BFG's

02-05-2011, 12:56 AM	#15
CORSAIR Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pahrump, Nevada Posts: 451	Re: Thinking of buying a project... Looking for input I say Buy it if your out let me know I'm on a plane with cash and road trip home. It sounds like like you are sold on it just go pull the trigger? remember these are Forty year old trucks they are not new or perfect but that whats cool is the enjoyment of restoring or fixing them up that is worth the $2000 GOOD LUCK CORSAIR __________________ "The Can't Family Lives Across The Street"

02-05-2011, 11:47 AM	#16
Vintage Windmills Vintage 4x4s Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Prior Lake, MN Posts: 4,305	Re: Thinking of buying a project... Looking for input Good score! If no engine or tranny is listed on SPID, it would have originally came with the 250 six and 3spd manual. __________________ 67 GMC K1500 Custom- 305V6 SM420, PTO, Ram Assist, yellow (the outcast) (project period correct upgrades) 67 GMC C2500 351V6 TH400, AC, PS, PB (can't decide what to do with. Update, decided to keep and will restore ) 86 CHV K30 502 th400, apple red NEW 71 CHV K20 350 SM465, ochre (saved work truck) 71 CHV K20 292 SM465, white, tach, PTO, (future project) 72 CHV K20 350 350th, medium blue (project stocker) 01 CHV K2500hd crew, indigo blue ^3 dont run and the others don't see winter either '86 K30 Cummins "Fireside" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=649649 '71 K20 "get driveable" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=590642 '72 K20 Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=493477&page=6

02-05-2011, 12:07 PM	#17
Joesjunk Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Independence MO. Posts: 7,697	Re: Thinking of buying a project... Looking for input It looks like the vin starts with a KE, so it would have been a 307 V-8 originally, "K" for 4 wheel drive, and "E" for a V-8. There would be an "S" for a six cylinder __________________ 72 3/4t Custom Deluxe 402/auto 66k Original paint 71 3/4t 4x4 Custom Deluxe 10k original miles Original paint 71 3/4t Cheyenne 402 70k original paint 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 91k original paint 72 Cheyenne/30 Dually 69 Camaro SS396 4-speed 13 GMC 2500HD Duramax I bought new 05 Jeep Wrangler "Willys Edition" 12k miles (I bought new) 85 3/4 ton 4x4 Scottsdale 33k miles original paint 86 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 454 restored 80 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 9,434 original miles!! original paint 95 GMC 1 ton dually 4x4 my dad bought new 95 GMC 3/4 ton 4x4, regular cab 454, 31k original miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 6.0L 67k miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 8.1L 28k miles 2003 GMC 2500HD 4x4 regular cab Diesel 93k miles 67-72 Parts for sale

02-05-2011, 12:44 PM	#18
steelscout Words under my name Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Lakewood, Washington Posts: 181	Re: Thinking of buying a project... Looking for input Nice find!!! Good looking truck!!! Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 69 Chevy CST/10 "Project: Bloody Knuckles" my slow going project. 2010 VW Golf, daily driver Wrench Rookie

02-05-2011, 11:41 PM	#20
Tomahawk30 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Russellville, KY Posts: 956	Re: Thinking of buying a project... Looking for input Ya, I went out and picked it up this morning and drove it home. It definitely needs some work, but I think I made out pretty well... Pretty rare to find a good deal on what you actually are looking for within five minutes of the house. Especially out here in the desert where these trucks are few and far between to begin with! __________________ 1979 Silverado C10 Shortbox - Photo Album 1977 Silverado K20 Camper Special - Photo Album 1972 C10 Custom Deluxe Highlander - sold 1971 Cheyenne Super Longhorn -sold 1972 Cheyenne Super SWB 4x4 -sold, bought back, sold again... I'm dumb. 1970 Chevy C10 SWB "Sprout" -sold 1972 Cheyenne K20 -sold 1969 GMC Shortbox Stepside 4x4 -sold 1972 GMC Jimmy 4x4 -sold

02-06-2011, 12:38 AM	#21
VA72C10 VA72C10 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 25,269	Re: Thinking of buying a project... Looking for input Good score! Keep us up to date as you work on it! __________________ Looking for a 67-72 swb or blazer project in or around VA.

02-16-2011, 12:31 AM	#22
Booya Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Boise Idaho Posts: 117	Re: Thinking of buying a project... Looking for input Nice find, imagine that another black vehicle..lol I think you did good, I gave the same amount for mine. Are you going to keep it a step side or looking for a wide box?



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02-16-2011, 04:07 PM	#24
Booya Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Boise Idaho Posts: 117	Re: Thinking of buying a project... Looking for input Wow, can't believe he's that old already, time sure flys by. Make sure you do a build thread.

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