Welding grade 8 nuts - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

hotrod1 · 01-12-2011, 02:48 AM

I want to weld nuts into my frame before I finish boxing up the frame. If I weld a nut to the frame will it change the strength of the nut? How is this usually done?

Mike Bradbury · 01-12-2011, 03:08 AM

Yes it will change the strength of the nut. It will anneal the temper, where it ends up depends on your welds Generally when you weld a nut on the inside of something it only needs to be tacked to hold it in place while there is no bolt in it. It should maintain a fair amount of strength with small tacks. If you weld all the way around then you might as well just get a gr 2 or 5.

hotrodrookie · 01-12-2011, 03:10 AM

Im about to do the same thing, Im going to use lower grade nuts that arent heat treated because I know for a fact grade 8's are heat treated, thus welding will change the metalurgy and probably make them brittle(how much I dont know) Maybe someone else can chime in with more info on this.

Tchia65 · 01-12-2011, 03:30 AM

I amount they loose is completely dependent on the amount of time they are exposed to the arc so there is no diffinative answer. I the question is does the item really require grade 8 strength? If not don't worry about it. You could always bump up the grip size of the bolt to compensate for the loss of hardness, say go 1/2 or 7/16 instead of 3/8. I'm also a big fan of these. They have a weldable flange. http://www.mcmaster.com/?orderview=n...d-nuts/=ajyb2h

Roddude · 01-12-2011, 05:23 AM

How about using caged nuts.

S10Fan · 01-12-2011, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Tchia65

I'm also a big fan of these. They have a weldable flange. http://www.mcmaster.com/?orderview=n...d-nuts/=ajyb2h

That's the way to go, I've purchased those locally at Fastenal and a Mom&Pop type operation.

Roddude · 01-12-2011, 03:32 PM

I was thinking of these. Please forgive the referance to the other brand of truck!

http://www.classictrucks.com/tech/09...ig_welded.html

Tchia65 · 01-12-2011, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Roddude

I was thinking of these. Please forgive the referance to the other brand of truck!

http://www.classictrucks.com/tech/09...ig_welded.html

Those will work, but if you don't need the floating nut for aglinment issues then it's kind of over kill. I use those for door hinges and and raised bed mounts.

01-12-2011, 02:48 AM	#1
hotrod1 56 - autocross Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Camarillo, Ca Posts: 1,121	Welding grade 8 nuts I want to weld nuts into my frame before I finish boxing up the frame. If I weld a nut to the frame will it change the strength of the nut? How is this usually done?

01-12-2011, 03:08 AM	#2
Mike Bradbury Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Diego California Posts: 1,316	Re: Welding grade 8 nuts Yes it will change the strength of the nut. It will anneal the temper, where it ends up depends on your welds Generally when you weld a nut on the inside of something it only needs to be tacked to hold it in place while there is no bolt in it. It should maintain a fair amount of strength with small tacks. If you weld all the way around then you might as well just get a gr 2 or 5. __________________ I'd rather attempt something great and fail.. than try something ordinary and succeed. Norman Vincent Peale Project: Barn Raising http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=414961 Project: 30 Be Low https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=830583

01-12-2011, 03:10 AM	#3
hotrodrookie Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sacramento Posts: 425	Re: Welding grade 8 nuts Im about to do the same thing, Im going to use lower grade nuts that arent heat treated because I know for a fact grade 8's are heat treated, thus welding will change the metalurgy and probably make them brittle(how much I dont know) Maybe someone else can chime in with more info on this.

01-12-2011, 03:30 AM	#4
Tchia65 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 195	Re: Welding grade 8 nuts I amount they loose is completely dependent on the amount of time they are exposed to the arc so there is no diffinative answer. I the question is does the item really require grade 8 strength? If not don't worry about it. You could always bump up the grip size of the bolt to compensate for the loss of hardness, say go 1/2 or 7/16 instead of 3/8. I'm also a big fan of these. They have a weldable flange. http://www.mcmaster.com/?orderview=n...d-nuts/=ajyb2h __________________ 1958 Fleetside shortbox 1965 Malibu SS 1970 Camaro RS 1972 Malibu wagon Last edited by Tchia65; 01-12-2011 at 03:33 AM. Reason: wrong link

01-12-2011, 05:23 AM	#5
Roddude Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: West Warwick, RI Posts: 24	Re: Welding grade 8 nuts How about using caged nuts.

01-12-2011, 03:32 PM	#7
Roddude Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: West Warwick, RI Posts: 24	Re: Welding grade 8 nuts I was thinking of these. Please forgive the referance to the other brand of truck! http://www.classictrucks.com/tech/09...ig_welded.html



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