Engine Build

[mwilliams5891]

Ok so this is my first engine build and I have a 327 from a 64 impala I think. It has the lower end done...not completely sure on what crank pistons or anything.
but for the top end i was planning on doing

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CMB-08-0034/
I don't know what a good cheaper carb i should use so please help with that.

is this going to work for the carb?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HLY-0-80555C/

Engine dress up
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PRO-141-758/

I was thinking this disturber but im not sure about it, as far as advances etc.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-850001R/

cheap headers
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G9006/

Water pump
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TFF-1449NA/

Starter
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TFF-3510A/

Alternator
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TFF-7935ABULL/

so other than that i dont know the rest yet...so I know I missed alot so ask and please give advice and tell me if these will work and what else I need.

can I use my old fan? do I need to buy pulleys? flexplate? will my old 4 speed mount up (on an inline 6 now)

ok so any questions just ask........im planning on doing this next weekend or just after if anyone is around eugene/albany area of oregon

thank you all in advance

[hdandd]

if you get the cheaper painted headers, like me, make sure and repaint them with the 2,000 degree paint BEFORE you put them on...

[Jacfourteen]

Originally Posted by hdandd

if you get the cheaper painted headers, like me, make sure and repaint them with the 2,000 degree paint before you put them on...

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[mwilliams5891]

Originally Posted by hdandd

if you get the cheaper painted headers, like me, make sure and repaint them with the 2,000 degree paint BEFORE you put them on...

ok thank you for that I wouldn't have thought about that

[mwilliams5891]

so what kind of Rockers do I need? and do I need special kinds of push rods? I want to stay pretty cheap just so you all know

[rick0312]

i purchased an edel intake and carb. price was under 300 for carb. i think the intake was about 100 bucks. install was easy. new crate engine fired right up!

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-1406/

[BIGBLU 72]

you have to get self aligning rocker arms for the Vortecs! push rods are the same as a stock small block. you might be able to get a good set off a 96-00 chevy/gmc truck at a junk yard for pretty cheap on the rockers

[mwilliams5891]

Originally Posted by BIGBLU 72

you have to get self aligning rocker arms for the Vortecs! push rods are the same as a stock small block. you might be able to get a good set off a 96-00 chevy/gmc truck at a junk yard for pretty cheap on the rockers

THANK YOU!!! that is exactly the information I am looking to get!
so will these work good?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts.aspx?sku=CCA-1417-16

[mwilliams5891]

So I was also looking at some comp cams for some increased power and I love the rough idle sound and on jegs they said that the biggest I could go without changing anything is this one
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CCA-CL12-211-2/

but on the summit website says this.
"Designed for hot street/strip cars, these COMP Cams Magnum series cam and lifter kits require a higher compression ratio, rear-end gear ratio, and stall torque converter than stock."

I dont know how to check my compression ratio or exatcly what I should be trying to get. IM NOT BUILDING a race truck or anything like that. I just want to have some fun with it when I want. I was reading this thread below and It got me a little spooked about compression ratio, should I be worried about what it is talking about?

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=440319

[mwilliams5891]

also are these pushrods going to work ok?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CCA-7812-16/?rtype=10

[mwilliams5891]

oh also I dont remember the thread but what do I need to put on my head studs? (i know locktite is good) but It was because its in contact with the water

[hchad18]

I went with a comp cams 260 on my 327 with the vortec heads. When I got my Vortecs I do believe I read that they have lift limitations with the stock springs. You dont want the springs binding @ full lift. You can also get your rockers off Ebay pretty cheap.

[mwilliams5891]

Originally Posted by hchad18

I went with a comp cams 260 on my 327 with the vortec heads. When I got my Vortecs I do believe I read that they have lift limitations with the stock springs. You dont want the springs binding @ full lift. You can also get your rockers off Ebay pretty cheap.

so I am looking at the right kind of rockers right? and are you saying you had to change something on your vortec with the cam or it just has "limitations"?

[hchad18]

Originally Posted by mwilliams5891

so I am looking at the right kind of rockers right? and are you saying you had to change something on your vortec with the cam or it just has "limitations"?

Your looking at the right rockers. The stock valve spring on vortec heads can only handle so much lift before binding.

"The factory Vortec heads use a light, single-wire valvespring with a damper that generates between 70 and 80 pounds of load on the seat. Because these heads are meant to work with a 1.5:1 rocker, their tall valve guides can only handle maximum valve lifts of around 0.420 inch."

[mwilliams5891]

so then if i get a cam I need to make sure that it doesn''t lift more than that. correct?

[hchad18]

I'm pretty sure I have a Crane cams 260 in mine which has .450 lift. I've read different articles on this issue so I would research it a little more. So yes whatever lift is that the stock springs can handle, don't go over that.

[Jacfourteen]

From what I've read the problem is that when you go over the recomended lift the spring retainer smashes the valve seal, causing oil leakage/burning. Here is a thread that a guy on here wrote a month or two ago. Go towards the end and you can read about the clearance problems he had and how he solved it.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=429865

[Jacfourteen]

Forgot to mention, I've also read that the vortecs don't flow anymore past .480, so a bigger cam doesn't net you any extra HP. I had a thread going a while back and some guys told me my cam is about the biggest you would want to go, it's a comp cams xe268h. Here is a video of how mine idles/runs, for the rest of my specs look in my signature.

[IMG]http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh171/jact...

[mwilliams5891]

I like the sound of your idle! so the cam I am looking at is a little less lift than your so it should be fine right? so i forgot do i need to change anything for it to work?

[mwilliams5891]

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