Headlight relays..

[oldblue1968chevy]

Ive searched and read the FAQs.

I need 2 bosch style relays, Can I go to advance autoparts and ask for a 'bosch style relay' without getting stupid looks? Im going to read this thruout the week and attempt it maybe this weekend. What exactly do I look for.

Thanks.

[Alex Hayley]

Yes. Get 2 30 amp relays.

[Zeke's Garage]

Certainly, just get the 30 amp versions.. most places have them hanging up in the electrical aisle, they're the 'standard' type you find everywhere.

Once you get them let us know and we can help you get this completed. i just finished this modification on my buddy's '72 and it made a huge difference.

[BLACK AND BLUE 67-72]

Yes, if the guy half way knows parts!! LOL All it is, is a 5 prong square 30 amp relay. here ya go


ACDELCO US 158167
ACDELCO US 158271
ACDELCO US C1771
ACDELCO US D1700A
ACDELCO US F1741
ADVAN-TECH 9K9
AIRTEX ENG. MGMT. SYSTEMS 1R1061
AIRTEX ENG. MGMT. SYSTEMS 1R1283
AIRTEX ENG. MGMT. SYSTEMS 1R1646
BECK/ARNLEY 2030011
BRAVO 708854
BWD AUTOMOTIVE R3117
BWD AUTOMOTIVE R3177
BWD AUTOMOTIVE R682
CARQUEST RED 83215
CARQUEST RED/WELLS 83130
CARQUEST RED/WELLS 83162
CARQUEST RED/WELLS 83215
CARQUEST RED/WELLS 83260
CARQUEST/SANTECH CPI 208854
CARQUEST/STANDARD MOTOR PRODS. RY116
CARQUEST/WELLS 561556
CARQUEST/WELLS 561616
CARQUEST/WELLS 561714
CARQUEST/WELLS 561743
CARQUEST/WELLS 561746
CARQUEST/WELLS 562051
CARQUEST/WELLS 562454
CARQUEST/WELLS 574572
ECHLIN AR178
ECHLIN AR272
ECHLIN AR604
FEDERATED IGNITION R3177
FEDERATED IGNITION RY116SB
FOUR SEASONS 35795
FOUR SEASONS 35928
FRIGETTE CORP. 244221
GP SORENSEN MR76
KEMPARTS AR243
KEMPARTS AR348
NIEHOFF RL36621
ORIGINAL ENGINE MANAGEMENT ER13
PACESETTER Z# R3177Z
PROLIANCE READY-AIRE 4721
PROLIANCE READY-AIRE 4723
SANTECH INDUSTRIES MT0507
SANTECH INDUSTRIES MT0515
SANTECH INDUSTRIES MT0531
SANTECH INDUSTRIES MT0532
SANTECH INDUSTRIES MT1445
STANDARD TRU-TECH RY116T
VISTEON 330178
WELLS 19273
WELLS 19278
WELLS 19899
WELLS 19955
WELLS 20330
WELLS 270
WELLS 35928
WELLS 561556
WELLS 562051

[mrein3]

Originally Posted by oldblue1968chevy

Ive searched and read the FAQs.

I need 2 bosch style relays, Can I go to advance autoparts and ask for a 'bosch style relay' without getting stupid looks? Im going to read this thruout the week and attempt it maybe this weekend. What exactly do I look for.

Thanks.

I say no freaking way can you go to a store like Advanced and get somebody that can give you a relay for something you are going to fabricate yourself.

The Checkers that is no longer near where I work is where I tried this same thing.
"Hi. I am going to upgrade the electrical system on my 40 year old pickup. I need a Bosch style relay".
The pimply kid jumps on a terminal and starts hacking away.
"What year?"
1970.
"What engine?"
350.
"They didn't come with a 350."
Ok. Try a 5.7 liter
"Got it. Auto or manual?"
Auto.
"2 or 4 wheel drive?
4
"You don't have any relays on that truck"

I finallly got rid of him and found what I was looking for in a bubble pack with the electrical wires, connectors, etc.
Of course they only had one on the hook.

I think you should avoid the kid at the counter and look around the aisle by the electrical stuff.

[71meangreenc10]

I will have to admit that I heard one guy at advance say outloud that "Damn do these people think that everyone working here is a mechanic?" But just like mrein3 suggested,,,most replies will be "The computer says NO" LOL.....

Good info Black and Blue......

Smitty

[Shyguy]

I got the 30 amp relays at O'Riellys in the main floor over by the add on light section.

Here is a picture I saved a while back from a post some one else did.

[N2TRUX]

Originally Posted by mrein3

.....
The Checkers that is no longer near where I work is where I tried this same thing. "Hi. I am going to upgrade the electrical system on my 40 year old pickup. I need a Bosch style relay".
The pimply kid jumps on a terminal and starts hacking away.
.

I had a similar situation at Auto Zone. Nice young man asks me....

Me: I need exhaust doughnut gasket for a 63 Corvette.
Kid: What make?
Me: Chevrolet
Kid: What size motor?
Me: 327 fuel injected.
Kid: What transmission?
Me: 4 speed.
Kid: 2 wheel drive or 4 wheel drive?
Me: Blank stare, chuckled and asked are you serious?
Kid: Blank stare, and answered "Yeah, I have to know si I can look them up".

I went to CarQuest where the man that worked there for the last 20+ years went in back and pulled them from memory.

[MrDude_1]

Originally Posted by oldblue1968chevy

Ive searched and read the FAQs.

I need 2 bosch style relays, Can I go to advance autoparts and ask for a 'bosch style relay' without getting stupid looks? Im going to read this thruout the week and attempt it maybe this weekend. What exactly do I look for.

Thanks.

first, you cant ask for ANYTHING at advance without getting a stupid look. I used to work there.. it was ridiculous... by the end of the summer i worked there, i had a line of regular customers waiting for me, because i was the only one there that would do simple things like 'think about what they are saying' and 'look to see if the part in the box actually matches'....
anyway, what i do is pick a relay type i like.. then i order it for a fake vehicle that uses that kind of relay.

[Tx Firefighter]

I buy my relays on ebay in bulk. You can get 10 of them delivered for 25 bucks and that includes the molded plugs and wiring pigtails.

[Bad70sbchevy]

Advanced Autoparts and Pepboys usually have them hanging around the electronics isle (either by lighting or stereo/autotheft). Not sure what amperage they are rated at but you can get them dirt cheap (around a dollar). The main thing your looking for is the current rating.

[mrein3]

Originally Posted by MrDude_1

first, you cant ask for ANYTHING at advance without getting a stupid look. I used to work there.. it was ridiculous... by the end of the summer i worked there, i had a line of regular customers waiting for me, because i was the only one there that would do simple things like 'think about what they are saying' and 'look to see if the part in the box actually matches'....
anyway, what i do is pick a relay type i like.. then i order it for a fake vehicle that uses that kind of relay.

Thats funny. I forgot about the dude that used to work there that actually knew what he was selling.

One day I went in there to get something and he said he is leaving Checkers.
I asked why.
He said he wants to sell auto parts, not mp3 players and (pedal powered) tricycles.
The next Sunday I looked at the checkers ad in the Sunday paper and noticed that there was all but one page of cheap, Chinese crapola for sale and a few autoparts on one page.

[oldblue1968chevy]

Went to advance and my good buddys dad found me some relays..

5 pin 30 AMP I got 2 of them @ $1.39 each too good to pass up!

Soo...now what? What guage wires will I need? Ive got some 12 or 14 red colored wire, any other things?

Going to solder/heat shrink every connection possible, should I pick up some convulated tubing? Or anything special? Or some black X guage wire?

Thansk!!

[oldblue1968chevy]

Sorry, on the computer I was on earlier didnt show the diagram, THANKS!!

[LockDoc]

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I went to my local salvage yard and got a setup off of a newer furd pickup, It has two relays in a nice holder with a cover over it and a bracket to bolt to the inner fender, Worked like a champ! Best part is the owner gave it to me...

LockDoc

[weircc]

Originally Posted by LockDoc

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I went to my local salvage yard and got a setup off of a newer furd pickup, It has two relays in a nice holder with a cover over it and a bracket to bolt to the inner fender, Worked like a champ! Best part is the owner gave it to me...

LockDoc

what year ford do u remember

[oldblue1968chevy]

Ok, Im looking @ the diagram and im assuming the yellow/blue boxes are the relays.

Why'd I buy a 5 prong if I only use 4 of them. Or am I not reading right..

Any other items I should buy/make sure I have before installation?

[69sixpackbee]

I just go into my local "Child Employed" auto parts stores and ask them for a water pump for a 1963 Chevrolet Covair Monza. That'll keep 'em going for a while.
If it don't fit a Honda they sure as hell can't find it

[Bad70sbchevy]

The reason there are five prongs is it allows you to wire the relay to cut power when a voltage is applied if you use the relay for other applications.

[VetteVet]

OK here are the relays, scroll down to the Bosch relay.
http://www.bcae1.com/relays.htm

[71gmcburb]

will these work on a GMC or would I need a higher amp relay? and any diff on the diagram

[LockDoc]

Originally Posted by weircc

what year ford do u remember

I don't remember for sure, maybe late 90's. If I get over there tomorrow I will check.

LockDoc

[mrein3]

Originally Posted by oldblue1968chevy

Soo...now what? What guage wires will I need? Ive got some 12 or 14 red colored wire, any other things?

Going to solder/heat shrink every connection possible, should I pick up some convulated tubing? Or anything special? Or some black X guage wire?

Thansk!!

Originally Posted by 71gmcburb

will these work on a GMC or would I need a higher amp relay? and any diff on the diagram

You want new 10 or 12 gauge wire from the battery through the fuses to "30" on each relay. I'd use 10 or 12 gauge black for "85" to ground. Use the existing truck wires to switch the relay. Looking at the diagram that would be "Stock High Beam Wire" and "Stock Low Beam Wire". You can get these wires from either side of the headlights. Just mark them with tape "high" and "low" to make life easier when you are wiring stuff up. The stock wire can be used without cutting it by removing the Packard type 56 connector (little brass colored insert) out of the plastic stock headlight connector.

The diagram works for both Chevy and GMC. On a Chevy just "snip" the green wire to the yellow high beam circles. On a GMC snip the green wire to the blue low beam circles.