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jkvette719 · 03-16-2003, 07:17 PM

I have a H.E.I. and lost spark. So I replaced the Ign. module and coil and still no spark. The Dist. is an Accell and isnt that old so I wouldnt think it would be the pick-up. It has power to the coil to when you turn the key on. Any ideas? thanks Justin

DRASTiK · 03-17-2003, 12:17 AM

seems like there isn't much more that it could be. It's always possible that you got a bad module or coil. They are supposedly all tested before being sent to the stores, but I've got bad modules before right out of the box. You could have them tested, and if they're fine, then I'd have to say the pickup coil unless you have a wiring problem somewhere.

Dave

CRRoy71 · 03-17-2003, 12:40 AM

I had the same problem with mine not too long ago.
Did a total tune up, plugs, wires, cap, everything including the module. Tried to start it and no spark. The module was a Borg Warner I think. I took it back and had it tested and sure enough it was bad. Swapped it for an AC Delco and it started right up.

jkvette719 · 03-17-2003, 12:58 AM

ill try the module.....it ran fine last week! thanks guys

gmcbob · 03-19-2003, 10:15 PM

How often are you guys replacing your module in your HEI Dist? It seems like mine goes out every six months or so. And I've even tried different brands, and even gone to GM for a new one, but they keep going out.

Bob

*rage'nrat638* · 03-19-2003, 10:41 PM

why dont you guys run MSD its great they make one for your stock ing. or you can buy there box to they may even make a coil
for stock ing, check out summits web site or jegs. just a though.
MARK....if you buy the 6al them you've got a rev.limiter....

PHOENIX · 03-20-2003, 12:39 AM

I also had problems with stock modules and replacements. They would go out at random and I hated it. I got a new distr. (Proform $150) and it did ok for awhile, then that module went out. I bought the msd module and the msd module off another member. No problems so far and it does seem like it idles smoother, but really no change in performance from what I can tell. My big thing is that I hope it doesnt just up and stop like the other modules.

PHOENIX · 03-20-2003, 12:42 AM

For those curious, heres some comparison pictures:

jkvette719 · 03-20-2003, 08:26 AM

Does that come with the install kit or something?
I have vac. adv. will that matter? Thanks jUstin

CRRoy71 · 03-20-2003, 09:16 AM

I haven't had my truck a year, and I have already replace two. That is due to getting a bad one from the parts store the first time though.

If it keeps up, I will consider going with something like the MSD.

**swervin ervin** · 03-20-2003, 09:49 AM

Just a word on Eddie's module. It is made for 4 pin module distributor's. If you still have an ESC distributor, it's 5 pin, and the MSD module won't work. They don't make a module for a 5 pin ESC distributor.

BigRed · 03-20-2003, 10:38 AM

I have heard of so many module problems, but I guess I'm in the minority. I've had my truck for over a year and have had no problem with the module (crossing my fingers!).

79BIG10 · 03-20-2003, 02:13 PM

Same here. I still have the same HEI that came with the ZZ4.

PHOENIX · 03-20-2003, 03:04 PM

Mikes right. The ESC is a 5 pin. When I changed to the proform it was a 4 pin. I did notice that once I got away from the esc system, I had way less problems with the module. Sotck type module would last me about 1 to 1-1/2 years then just stop.

jkvette719 · 03-20-2003, 07:06 PM

mine is a 4 pin so im good there

Bill W · 03-20-2003, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PHOENIX
Mikes right. The ESC is a 5 pin. When I changed to the proform it was a 4 pin. I did notice that once I got away from the esc system, I had way less problems with the module. Sotck type module would last me about 1 to 1-1/2 years then just stop.

Did you use the dielectric grease on the bottom of the module before you installed them? I've never had a module go out.

Bill

*rage'nrat638* · 03-20-2003, 07:11 PM

you can get it at summit racing in about 3 days or next day if you want... mark

03-16-2003, 07:17 PM	#1
jkvette719 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 12	No Spark? I have a H.E.I. and lost spark. So I replaced the Ign. module and coil and still no spark. The Dist. is an Accell and isnt that old so I wouldnt think it would be the pick-up. It has power to the coil to when you turn the key on. Any ideas? thanks Justin

03-17-2003, 12:17 AM	#2
DRASTiK Converted Ford guy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 67	seems like there isn't much more that it could be. It's always possible that you got a bad module or coil. They are supposedly all tested before being sent to the stores, but I've got bad modules before right out of the box. You could have them tested, and if they're fine, then I'd have to say the pickup coil unless you have a wiring problem somewhere. Dave Last edited by DRASTiK; 03-17-2003 at 12:20 AM.

03-17-2003, 12:40 AM	#3
CRRoy71 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mont Belvieu, TX Posts: 852	I had the same problem with mine not too long ago. Did a total tune up, plugs, wires, cap, everything including the module. Tried to start it and no spark. The module was a Borg Warner I think. I took it back and had it tested and sure enough it was bad. Swapped it for an AC Delco and it started right up. __________________ Chris '92 ext. cab s/b 4.3L "Sparky" '04 crew cab 2500 4x4 6.0L

03-19-2003, 10:15 PM	#5
gmcbob Registered User Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 57	How often are you guys replacing your module in your HEI Dist? It seems like mine goes out every six months or so. And I've even tried different brands, and even gone to GM for a new one, but they keep going out. Bob __________________ Bob 1978 GMC Sierra Classic K15 Shortbed, 350/350/NP203, 31's on Rally's, Restored to Stock Condition. Two-tone Russett Metallic / Buckskin. 1987 GMC Sierra Classic V1500, Longbed, 350 TBI, NP205, 33’s on Chrome Spoke with 4” Suspension Lift. Black. 2014 GMC 2500HD 4x4 Duramax Crewcab

03-19-2003, 10:41 PM	#6
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	why not msd why dont you guys run MSD its great they make one for your stock ing. or you can buy there box to they may even make a coil for stock ing, check out summits web site or jegs. just a though. MARK....if you buy the 6al them you've got a rev.limiter....

03-17-2003, 12:58 AM	#4
jkvette719 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 12	ill try the module.....it ran fine last week! thanks guys

03-20-2003, 12:39 AM	#7
PHOENIX Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 4,703	I also had problems with stock modules and replacements. They would go out at random and I hated it. I got a new distr. (Proform $150) and it did ok for awhile, then that module went out. I bought the msd module and the msd module off another member. No problems so far and it does seem like it idles smoother, but really no change in performance from what I can tell. My big thing is that I hope it doesnt just up and stop like the other modules. __________________ * AVOID: LOPER'S PERMORANCE / LOPERSPEED.COM OF PHOENIX, AZ & COTTMAN TRANSMISSION *

03-20-2003, 12:42 AM	#8
PHOENIX Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 4,703	For those curious, heres some comparison pictures: Attached Images __________________ * AVOID: LOPER'S PERMORANCE / LOPERSPEED.COM OF PHOENIX, AZ & COTTMAN TRANSMISSION *

03-20-2003, 08:26 AM	#9
jkvette719 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 12	Does that come with the install kit or something? I have vac. adv. will that matter? Thanks jUstin

03-20-2003, 09:16 AM	#10
CRRoy71 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mont Belvieu, TX Posts: 852	I haven't had my truck a year, and I have already replace two. That is due to getting a bad one from the parts store the first time though. If it keeps up, I will consider going with something like the MSD. __________________ Chris '92 ext. cab s/b 4.3L "Sparky" '04 crew cab 2500 4x4 6.0L

03-20-2003, 09:49 AM	#11
swervin ervin You get what you pay for Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Cherryville, NC Posts: 4,798	Just a word on Eddie's module. It is made for 4 pin module distributor's. If you still have an ESC distributor, it's 5 pin, and the MSD module won't work. They don't make a module for a 5 pin ESC distributor. __________________ Mike 1985 Chevy C-10

03-20-2003, 10:38 AM	#12
BigRed Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 1,680	I have heard of so many module problems, but I guess I'm in the minority. I've had my truck for over a year and have had no problem with the module (crossing my fingers!). __________________ Scott Shelbourne

03-20-2003, 02:13 PM	#13
79BIG10 I'm back with 2nd truck! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 3,775	Same here. I still have the same HEI that came with the ZZ4. __________________ 1979 Chevrolet Bonanza Big10 "Tootsie Roll" 1985 Chevrolet Silverado (wife's) Member of the Southern Bowties Club "Don't underestimate how sexy a fat man who drinks to excess can be." Homer Simpson

03-20-2003, 03:04 PM	#14
PHOENIX Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 4,703	Mikes right. The ESC is a 5 pin. When I changed to the proform it was a 4 pin. I did notice that once I got away from the esc system, I had way less problems with the module. Sotck type module would last me about 1 to 1-1/2 years then just stop. __________________ * AVOID: LOPER'S PERMORANCE / LOPERSPEED.COM OF PHOENIX, AZ & COTTMAN TRANSMISSION *

03-20-2003, 07:06 PM	#15
jkvette719 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 12	mine is a 4 pin so im good there



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rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	summit racing you can get it at summit racing in about 3 days or next day if you want... mark

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