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muthstryker · 03-01-2011, 11:59 AM

Hey guys,

Was wanting your opinion on this subject, I have a 1967 GTO Project car that needs restored, however its in really great shape and doesnt need much rust repair done. Its pretty much complete body wise just no drivetrain.

Now, Ive been wanting my truck bagged for some time now and found a guy that I met years ago that is still bagging trucks and does really nice work. I told him about the GTO and hes been hinting at trading the GTO for bagging the truck.

I wanted to run the porterbuilt stuff but if I do I wont beable to buy the other stuff I want for quite some time. And I dont like waiting im impatient.

So im looking for opinions and input - Should I trade him the GTO for Bagging the truck?

silvereagle07 · 03-01-2011, 12:52 PM

I say no. Keep the GTO and get the porterbuilt setup if that's what you really want. The porterbuilt setup is expensive but you can install it yourself. That will save you labor cost. Patients is key.lol

Squareforceone · 03-01-2011, 12:54 PM

Noooooo i mean you can do whatever you want but i say no gtos are awesome. You can always get your truck bagged but finding another gto in good shape well.... they don't make thoes anymore but air bags are still avaliable thats just what i think

manimal · 03-01-2011, 12:58 PM

Toxic Redline · 03-01-2011, 01:01 PM

Restrorob · 03-01-2011, 01:03 PM

I'm with the others, You get rid of that goat and you'll be kicking yourself for years to come. That's not just a opinion but fact.....From experience.

1981Sturgis · 03-01-2011, 01:03 PM

I also have a 67 Goat that needs restored and there is no way I would part with it.

**lolife99** · 03-01-2011, 01:07 PM

Sell the GTO and buy the Porterbuilt stuff.
Or wait and buy the Porterbuilt stuff.
I don't consider it expensive, for what your are getting.
At least get the Dropmember up front to fix all the flaws of the GM suspension, when you are bagging one of these trucks.
Then you can go cheaper on the back half, if you want.

Deals always go south when you trade for labor.
(especially with friends)
Usually the value of his labor and the value of your parts is never agreed upon by both parties.

muthstryker · 03-01-2011, 01:48 PM

Ok, I read all of your posts and you are all right, its not worth it I think I will hold onto it for a few more years.

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Originally Posted by lolife99

Sell the GTO and buy the Porterbuilt stuff.
Or wait and buy the Porterbuilt stuff.
I don't consider it expensive, for what your are getting.
At least get the Dropmember up front to fix all the flaws of the GM suspension, when you are bagging one of these trucks.
Then you can go cheaper on the back half, if you want.

Deals always go south when you trade for labor.
(especially with friends)
Usually the value of his labor and the value of your parts is never agreed upon by both parties.

I dont really consider the porterbuilt stuff expensive either, my mind set was, I could have the truck bagged and body dropped for $4500 through the guy complete including parts. Or I could spend almost 6k on the porterbuilt and air management setup. And the reason the price is so high is, if I get the porterbuilt drop members might as well go all out and get their control arms and any other stuff they make that replaces stock stuff so it all matches.

With the porterbuilt I would also run a Ride Tech Airpod.

It would just take alot longer to finish the truck that way, another thing is if I do decide to go with porterbuilt im going to buy top of the line everything even if it takes longer.

As the old saying goes "Build it right the first time".

jrcaprai · 03-01-2011, 05:45 PM

For the love of God... Keep the Goat, man!

79gmcc15 · 03-01-2011, 08:43 PM

Surprised no one said

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Leedogg · 03-01-2011, 09:24 PM

I agree- pics of said GTO.

a 67 GTO is my dream car. I think I found a 66/67 tempest today(pretty sure a 67)...sitting in someones back yard, it was half covered by a tarp- it may be a 4-door. But the wife said to go check ot out- so I plan to. I want to do a clone- so I don't feel guilty for modding the crap out of a real Goat.

I agree about the keep the car, buy the porterbuilt route- this is my plan. The porterbuilt front end is 95% bolt in. Unless the car is trully worth less than the cost to do it right, I can't see any GTO in even decent shape is worth an air ride suspension. You'll NEVER get the money back out of the truck. But the GTO's value will never go down.

SBTork · 03-01-2011, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Leedogg

Unless the car is trully worth less than the cost to do it right, I can't see any GTO in even decent shape is worth an air ride suspension. You'll NEVER get the money back out of the truck. But the GTO's value will never go down.

x2 here. Keep the GTO, and save save save away. I agreee w/lolife99, do porterbuilt up front but maybe go with something else for the rear. Either way, keep the goat and bag the truck. That seems to be what you really want in the end.

lilpoindexter · 03-01-2011, 09:54 PM

Sell the gto...the truck is more fun to drive...even though it drives like a truck...when was the last time you were on a GTO forum??? MMMHMMMM

Chlsnk · 03-01-2011, 10:43 PM

Keep the GTO

broey · 03-01-2011, 11:32 PM

No way! Sell that sh*t and get the truck done!!

Hoods69BadBowTie · 03-02-2011, 12:05 AM

I gotta agree with everyone else haha keep that GTO! Save up and wait to get the kit that you want you will be way more happy in the long run I think

Your41Plague12 · 03-02-2011, 02:45 AM

Keep the goat, they're awesome cars. Getting hard to come by, too. Pics please!

jitteryguy · 03-02-2011, 03:05 AM

you didnt mention what the goat means to you, sentamental value ? personaly I dont care for them car's, but if there is personal or family history behind the car that change's every thing. if it were me I would clean the goat up and see if I could get enough outta it to cover the PorterBuilt stuff .
just a thought !

xconcepts · 03-02-2011, 05:34 AM

As a tripower 66 GTO owner as well, F**k no don't sell it. Its hard as hell just to find decent parts let alone a good body.

66GTO

**N2TRUX** · 03-02-2011, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lolife99

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Deals always go south when you trade for labor.
(especially with friends)
Usually the value of his labor and the value of your parts is never agreed upon by both parties.

VERY good advice. You will regret the trade in the end.

muthstryker · 03-02-2011, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 79gmcc15

Surprised no one said

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Heres a cardomain I made a few years back

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2300009/1967-pontiac-gto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leedogg

I agree- pics of said GTO.

a 67 GTO is my dream car. I think I found a 66/67 tempest today(pretty sure a 67)...sitting in someones back yard, it was half covered by a tarp- it may be a 4-door. But the wife said to go check ot out- so I plan to. I want to do a clone- so I don't feel guilty for modding the crap out of a real Goat.

I agree about the keep the car, buy the porterbuilt route- this is my plan. The porterbuilt front end is 95% bolt in. Unless the car is trully worth less than the cost to do it right, I can't see any GTO in even decent shape is worth an air ride suspension. You'll NEVER get the money back out of the truck. But the GTO's value will never go down.

Ya I agree with you, doesnt matter what I do to the truck the value will always be the same, as the value of the gto will continue to slowly rise.

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Originally Posted by lilpoindexter

Sell the gto...the truck is more fun to drive...even though it drives like a truck...when was the last time you were on a GTO forum??? MMMHMMMM

Haha, you make a point, but the reason im not on any GTO forums is they are all hardcore about being numbers matching, if I want to put an LSX motor in the GTO then so be it, but these guys come at you with pitch forks and torches. When in the end Pontiac Designed the LSX

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Originally Posted by jitteryguy

you didnt mention what the goat means to you, sentamental value ? personaly I dont care for them car's, but if there is personal or family history behind the car that change's every thing. if it were me I would clean the goat up and see if I could get enough outta it to cover the PorterBuilt stuff .
just a thought !

As it is now, If I was to get rid of it I could get enough to buy the front and rear drop member and still have some left over. The only value it has, is its the first car I bought with my own money, no help from mom and dad did it all by myself. People have always told me I should just get rid of it and I wont ever finish it, I think thats the reason why I hold onto it. So I can prove them wrong.

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Originally Posted by N2TRUX

VERY good advice. You will regret the trade in the end.

Ya I think your right, I sold a car a few years back that I shouldnt of ever sold. I still kick myself in the ass for that one. And it was just a buick regal that I was going to be turning into a GNX clone.

dropd80s · 03-02-2011, 10:49 AM

Sell the car. If you don't have the cash on hand to buy porterbuilt stuff, I doubt you have the cash to restore the goat. Sell it to someone who will restore the car and use the money to put into your truck. Your truck will get built faster if its the only project you have.

muthstryker · 03-02-2011, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dropd80s

Sell the car. If you don't have the cash on hand to buy porterbuilt stuff, I doubt you have the cash to restore the goat. Sell it to someone who will restore the car and use the money to put into your truck. Your truck will get built faster if its the only project you have.

I just dropped 6k on set of 22s with tires for the truck when I had a perfectly good set of 20s on the truck that I had just bought just because I wanted bigger and to be different.

The money isnt the problem the problem is I change my mind all the time and cant ever stick to anything. I do get what your saying, but once I decided exactly how I want the GTO to look in my head it will get done. I just dont think about it right now and am focused on the truck.

I was just considering the trade as an option since the guy was asking and if I could have the truck bagged for just trading, it would save me 5k.

I dont think I will ever sell the GTO because when I do post the car up every call I get people want to use it as a parts car and cut it up. This car is in too good of shape to be hacked away and used for a parts car for some other guys GTO thats swiss cheese.

muthstryker · 03-02-2011, 11:31 AM

The guy doesnt want to trade now anyways, just checked my email. He thought it included a motor and tranny, doesnt want that large of a project.

03-01-2011, 11:59 AM	#1
muthstryker Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Snohomish, Washington Posts: 1,187	Should I do this? Hey guys, Was wanting your opinion on this subject, I have a 1967 GTO Project car that needs restored, however its in really great shape and doesnt need much rust repair done. Its pretty much complete body wise just no drivetrain. Now, Ive been wanting my truck bagged for some time now and found a guy that I met years ago that is still bagging trucks and does really nice work. I told him about the GTO and hes been hinting at trading the GTO for bagging the truck. I wanted to run the porterbuilt stuff but if I do I wont beable to buy the other stuff I want for quite some time. And I dont like waiting im impatient. So im looking for opinions and input - Should I trade him the GTO for Bagging the truck? Last edited by muthstryker; 03-01-2011 at 12:00 PM.

03-01-2011, 12:52 PM	#2
silvereagle07 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bailey, NC Posts: 2,462	Re: Should I do this? I say no. Keep the GTO and get the porterbuilt setup if that's what you really want. The porterbuilt setup is expensive but you can install it yourself. That will save you labor cost. Patients is key.lol __________________ Jeramy '84 GMC project truck '85 Chevy 4X4 SOLD '07 Chevy Trailblazer SS 5th Annual SHPHC Car/Truck Show Pics http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=543605 UPDATED PICS! CHECK 'EM OUT Last edited by silvereagle07; 03-01-2011 at 12:54 PM.

03-01-2011, 12:54 PM	#3
Squareforceone Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Rustville USA or southeast Ia Posts: 654	Re: Should I do this? Noooooo i mean you can do whatever you want but i say no gtos are awesome. You can always get your truck bagged but finding another gto in good shape well.... they don't make thoes anymore but air bags are still avaliable thats just what i think

03-01-2011, 12:58 PM	#4
manimal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern Kalifornia Posts: 3,066	Re: Should I do this? __________________ ------------------------------------------------------ -Lance 2000 Chevy C2500, 5.7, 4L80e 1999 Suburban K2500, 7.4, 4L80e 1980 Camaro..son's car...PROJECT

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03-01-2011, 01:03 PM	#7
1981Sturgis Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Vermontville, Mi Posts: 80	Re: Should I do this? I also have a 67 Goat that needs restored and there is no way I would part with it.

03-01-2011, 01:07 PM	#8
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,700	Re: Should I do this? Sell the GTO and buy the Porterbuilt stuff. Or wait and buy the Porterbuilt stuff. I don't consider it expensive, for what your are getting. At least get the Dropmember up front to fix all the flaws of the GM suspension, when you are bagging one of these trucks. Then you can go cheaper on the back half, if you want. Deals always go south when you trade for labor. (especially with friends) Usually the value of his labor and the value of your parts is never agreed upon by both parties. __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

03-01-2011, 05:45 PM	#10
jrcaprai Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 365	Re: Should I do this? For the love of God... Keep the Goat, man!

03-01-2011, 08:43 PM	#11
79gmcc15 Gettin It One Pice At A Time Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: everett, washington Posts: 2,688	Re: Should I do this? Surprised no one said Posted via Mobile Device __________________ RIP ELJAY Work In Progress 1979 GMC C1500 Trailering Special. Getting the truck done, one piece at a time. “You can tell a lot about a fellow’s character by his way of eating jellybeans.”Ronald Reagan “I don’t know the key to success but I know the key to failure is trying to please everybody.” Bill Cosby

03-01-2011, 09:24 PM	#12
Leedogg Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Brewton AL Posts: 236	Re: Should I do this? I agree- pics of said GTO. a 67 GTO is my dream car. I think I found a 66/67 tempest today(pretty sure a 67)...sitting in someones back yard, it was half covered by a tarp- it may be a 4-door. But the wife said to go check ot out- so I plan to. I want to do a clone- so I don't feel guilty for modding the crap out of a real Goat. I agree about the keep the car, buy the porterbuilt route- this is my plan. The porterbuilt front end is 95% bolt in. Unless the car is trully worth less than the cost to do it right, I can't see any GTO in even decent shape is worth an air ride suspension. You'll NEVER get the money back out of the truck. But the GTO's value will never go down. __________________ 1989 Chevy Crew Cab Dually - 454/400, Trans Am Hauler, Future bagged project. 96 Trans Am: 383/m6 - 11.98@115 on 315 M/T D/R's - 408rwhp 394 rwtq 05 VW Passat TDI - 38mpg @75mph 07 Bandit 1250S - Two wheeled fun! Click here to see my FQuick Garage!

03-01-2011, 09:54 PM	#14
lilpoindexter Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: los angeles Posts: 1,134	Re: Should I do this? Sell the gto...the truck is more fun to drive...even though it drives like a truck...when was the last time you were on a GTO forum??? MMMHMMMM

03-01-2011, 10:43 PM	#15
Chlsnk Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas city Posts: 756	Re: Should I do this? Keep the GTO __________________ *My 84 short bed build up*** http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...68#post3481968

03-01-2011, 11:32 PM	#16
broey Square Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Phoenix Arizona Posts: 1,568	Re: Should I do this? No way! Sell that sh*t and get the truck done!! __________________ Squarebody Syndicate

03-02-2011, 12:05 AM	#17
Hoods69BadBowTie Chevys Kick A$$ Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zootown, MT Posts: 12,699	Re: Should I do this? I gotta agree with everyone else haha keep that GTO! Save up and wait to get the kit that you want you will be way more happy in the long run I think __________________ HOODS is what I answer too -'79, '77, '88 Pickup Sold, '85 Camaro, '83 T/A, '81,'83,'90 K5 Blazer All Sold -'79 3/4 ton "Big Yellow Bananna" Lifted 4spd. 39.5 TSL Swampers, The money Pit -'86 K5 Blazer Silverado 6.2 4" lift 35"s -'95 Ext. Cab Shorty 4" Tuff Country rolling 35" M/T's -'83 Monte Carlo T-Tops. 126,500 Original Miles -LATER I would rather push a Chevy then drive a ford!!



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03-02-2011, 02:45 AM	#18
Your41Plague12 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,009	Re: Should I do this? Keep the goat, they're awesome cars. Getting hard to come by, too. Pics please! __________________ Steve Member of the Foot Pedal Club '83 Chevy K20: 6" Rough Country, 3" Performance Accessories BL, Bushwacker Cutouts, 38x15.50 Mickey Thompson Baja Claws, 350 HP 350 crate engine from Jegs, Turbo 400

03-02-2011, 03:05 AM	#19
jitteryguy GoatLube Experss Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: clarksville, Tn. Posts: 1,337	Re: Should I do this? you didnt mention what the goat means to you, sentamental value ? personaly I dont care for them car's, but if there is personal or family history behind the car that change's every thing. if it were me I would clean the goat up and see if I could get enough outta it to cover the PorterBuilt stuff . just a thought ! __________________ *Goat Lube Express, locations in Qalat,Afghanistan & Clarksville, Tn. '87 R30 dually 454/TH400 '85 1/2 ton CCSB '92 S10 350/350 '84 MonteCarlo 383/PG/9"ford '78 Malibu wagon 350/350 '78 Cutlass (project family car) '96 S10 Jimmy (Moma's) Last edited by jitteryguy; 03-02-2011 at 03:06 AM.*

03-02-2011, 05:34 AM	#20
xconcepts Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 27	Re: Should I do this? As a tripower 66 GTO owner as well, F**k no don't sell it. Its hard as hell just to find decent parts let alone a good body. 66GTO Attached Images

03-02-2011, 10:49 AM	#23
dropd80s Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: wichita falls tx Posts: 429	Re: Should I do this? Sell the car. If you don't have the cash on hand to buy porterbuilt stuff, I doubt you have the cash to restore the goat. Sell it to someone who will restore the car and use the money to put into your truck. Your truck will get built faster if its the only project you have.

03-02-2011, 11:31 AM	#25
muthstryker Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Snohomish, Washington Posts: 1,187	Re: Should I do this? The guy doesnt want to trade now anyways, just checked my email. He thought it included a motor and tranny, doesnt want that large of a project.

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