Attention All Air Baggers..

[61_FL_Apache]

Have any of you guys used a setup like this? THis has to be the simplest setup yet for 4 corner controls.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT

Im starting to piece together a system and came across this.

Let me know your opinions.

[GCncsuHD]

Nothing special, just manual paddle valves. Have been around forever. It is a much cheaper setup, and easy to setup, but you have to run alot more lines than an electronic switch/valve setup, although no wiring is required. (Except of course for the compressor and the lights on the gauges)

The 1/4 inch line is small, and it will be slow, no matter what the guy says, especially feeding two bags off of one 1/4 inch feed line. But it will do it's job just fine.

[61_FL_Apache]

I had 1/4 lines on the front of my 65 and it was slower, but I didnt mind too much. I dont need a fast fill or dump.

The guy selling this call it the "old man" setup.

[Tony@AirRideTech]

Exactly.... old school paddle switches. They work and are decently reliable. They are slower so dont ever expect to make them speedy by any means. Plan on replacing the paddle switches themselves after a few years depending on how much they are used. They essentially use a teflon guide that seals the switch and as time goes on that surface will get light scratches from debris and will start leaking very slowley... but hell, easy to install and they definitely work. We can even set up a panel like that where there is four switches under 2 dual needle gause on the same panel that measure about 4.5" X 4.5".

[61_FL_Apache]

Tony, can you send me a link to something you have?

[tech@scottshotrods]

it is some thing along these lines but two of the dual panels side by side

[61_FL_Apache]

Ok. With this one you are showing here, does one padel work front and one for rear? Thats would I would rather have, but want one line to each bag instead of two bags tied together with a tee. I had that on my 65 and the air transfer from side to side gave me too much body roll.

[tech@scottshotrods]

you will need four corner adjustment in order for the truck to sit level and have no transfer you will need two of these panels one for the fron one for the rear you will have two gauges and four padel switches

[61_FL_Apache]

Gotcha!! Thanks for the info!!

[crawdadfox]

I just bagged my 61 using the same set up and it works great. The ebay add your looking at is from Boris (way2lo2) on this site. Really cool dude and has bagged every 58-64 Impala, Biscayne and wagon within a 1000 miles of Cleveland Ohio!! He also can give you a hookup on the compressor, tank and pressure switch to go with it.

[61_FL_Apache]

Yea thats the guy. I have a complete air system onboard now running air horns. So the bag and control install will be simple.

[tech@scottshotrods]

we offer unbeatable prices on all air suspension products! instock

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by crawdadfox

I just bagged my 61 using the same set up and it works great. The ebay add your looking at is from Boris (way2lo2) on this site. Really cool dude and has bagged every 58-64 Impala, Biscayne and wagon within a 1000 miles of Cleveland Ohio!! He also can give you a hookup on the compressor, tank and pressure switch to go with it.

It's how mine are done. Cheap & effective.... just not 'state of the art'.

[61_FL_Apache]

I gotta get my cab finished by Mar 13th. Then the suspention is next.

[stevencvn72]

So this may be a newb question, but the e-bay panel looks like the dumps are T'd (unless these are the lines in from tank, but if that's the case then where's the dump), then there's individual fills for each bag, but where's the fitting to go to the valves from the tank. Something tells me the answer is gonna make me feel dumb.

[kieth]

It says only one airline into the panel then 1 line to each bag.......Kieth

[crawdadfox]

The way i done my set up was run the line from the tank to under the dash to a tee fitting. From the tee fitting i ran a couple inch long air line to my pressure switch and another line to yet another tee fitting and the remaining two lines to the two bottom feed lines on the back of the paddles. The upper four fittings on the paddles will supply each of your four air bags. If your pressure switch is on the tank you will only use one tee.

[(joey)]

just curious,do paddle valves come in anything bigger then 1/4

[GCncsuHD]

Originally Posted by stevencvn72

So this may be a newb question, but the e-bay panel looks like the dumps are T'd (unless these are the lines in from tank, but if that's the case then where's the dump), then there's individual fills for each bag, but where's the fitting to go to the valves from the tank. Something tells me the answer is gonna make me feel dumb.

It is setup for 2 1/4" air lines come in to the panel, one to the front switches, one to the rear switches, then individual lines out to each bag. There is no dump line, there is a open port on the back of the valve where the air escapes from.

Originally Posted by (joey)

just curious,do paddle valves come in anything bigger then 1/4

Not that I've seen. There is definitely industrial stuff that does, but nothing small, cheap, and simple like that.

[rondog4416]

i have a M.I.C. setup with 1/2 in air lines here are some pic's sorry phone cam not the best

[rondog4416]

this is my setup

[(joey)]

Originally Posted by rondog4416

this is my setup

thats cool.any more info on this?does it work like the paddle switches?where did you buy them?

[way2lo2]

If any forum members are interested in these panels, I can offer a better price then what I have them listed for on ebay. I have single path panels, dual path panels, 4 path panels. I also carry the individual paddle valve in case you want to use your own gauges. These can be tee'd to work with the senders needed for Digital gauges as well. We typically do 1-3 Air suspension installs a week , though the Ridetech E3 and Airlift Autopilot is popular with alot of our customers, the Paddle arrangement is what at least 80-90% end up going with. We quit using individual solenoid valves 10 years ago, the good ones worked fine but install time to make everything clean and neat took longer then most people were wiling to pay for plus the added cost of all the fittings needed to plumb 8 valves. If your looking for a dependable air management that won't break the bank you can't go wrong with this paddle arrangement.
Boris

[tech@scottshotrods]

Originally Posted by way2lo2

If any forum members are interested in these panels, I can offer a better price then what I have them listed for on ebay. I have single path panels, dual path panels, 4 path panels. I also carry the individual paddle valve in case you want to use your own gauges. These can be tee'd to work with the senders needed for Digital gauges as well. We typically do 1-3 Air suspension installs a week , though the Ridetech E3 and Airlift Autopilot is popular with alot of our customers, the Paddle arrangement is what at least 80-90% end up going with. We quit using individual solenoid valves 10 years ago, the good ones worked fine but install time to make everything clean and neat took longer then most people were wiling to pay for plus the added cost of all the fittings needed to plumb 8 valves. If your looking for a dependable air management that won't break the bank you can't go wrong with this paddle arrangement.
Boris

You know what's funny is that while at air ride it was the other way around the E3, level pro and standard ARC4000 maded up for 85-90% of the kits hahahahaha... We thought the days of the paddle were long gone. Like tony had mentioned earlier in the thread the paddles are known to leak after a while so keep any eye out for that... Borris also has an array of other products that he offers at incredible discounts

[way2lo2]

Originally Posted by jon@scottshotrods

You know what's funny is that while at air ride it was the other way around the E3, level pro and standard ARC4000 maded up for 85-90% of the kits hahahahaha... We thought the days of the paddle were long gone. Like tony had mentioned earlier in the thread the paddles are known to leak after a while so keep any eye out for that...

I'll keep an eye out for leaks but the ones Bret sold me in 1998 are still holding up strong. Out of the several thousand I have personally sold in the last 4 years alone, I've had to warranty exactly.......... NONE. Actually I'm so confident they hold up well that I would be happy to offer a lifetime warranty with free replacement including shipping if you can wear one out enough to cause it to leak.
Boris