ford & ih trucks

[pugs]

while looking for a truck to use around the house and to run to work now and then i found this 70 Sport Custom on CL and snagged it up. drove and rode nice on the ride home and 1st thing i did was remove the rotted out wooden topper, rides even better. need to replace the exhaust donuts, tires and a few bulbs here and there and fix the horn and it can be inspected





also bought this 51 IH L112 for cheap, will most likely just flip it but not sure at this point

[pugs]

was lucky enough to bring the IH home today. the engined turned over by hand, so i thu a battery in it and jumped the soleniod and it cranked alittle as the starter seems real weak, not sure what im going to do with it yet. my buddy did offer me a chevy 250/6 banger and 350 turbo for dirt cheap. anyway a few pics








and one of the ford with the topper off of it, it looks alot better

[Pop's C-10]

That in is sweet

[pugs]

the IH is actually better shape then what my 60 dodge was before i started in on it, hel i should just tho the inline chevy and trans in then do brales and drive it around

[samwise68]

Man, I love those early binders. My buddy restored a '50-'51 L110 (I think). A sharp lookin' truck.

On that note, get it running and stopping, and rock it! It's such a cool old truck, and with patina being "in", I say give 'er.

-Sam.

[jmlcolorado]

Im gonna break some hearts with this post but ive got myself 1/2 a binder and 1/2 a c10.
'50 L122 IH Cab and bed riding low on a 68 C10 chassis.

[dalbers]

Hey jmlcolorado I had that same thing in mind. I have a 50 and a frame just sitting waiting patiently.

[CSmith]

I'm no stranger to IHs either...

[pugs]

jml
i like your half breed, i was wandering the about using a 67-72 chassis or atleast the front suspension clip and rear my IH, i just dont remember what the tract width is for these years

csmith
nice travelall, i remember seeing a drawling that Stanford had done a few years ago of one that was slammed and the back shortened like 12" or so

[jmlcolorado]

Originally Posted by pugs

jml
i like your half breed, i was wandering the about using a 67-72 chassis or atleast the front suspension clip and rear my IH, i just dont remember what the tract width is for these years

I can take measurements on mine. Its basicly stock minus the Zee. Im using 2007 dodge ram 1500 wheels which are 20" spares. The backspacing is so huge on those rims, that a 2 1/2" spacer puts the outside of the wheels about where the factory wheels were.

The front ends on these things are so easy, if measurements matched up, you could almost unbolt the entire cross-member and roll it under the international chassis for the front suspension. Then add some bracing and drill some holes for the steering box on the drivers side and the support arm on the passenger side.
That is actually a pretty cool idea. Id like to see that!
Heck, if measurements worked out close, you could even use the rear trailing arm setup too! All that is is the crossmember in the middle.

I did tons of research before i started mine. I didnt really want the Binder chassis as i wanted something a little more common (or ALOT more common ) that i could easily find parts for. Hence the C10!
The S10 chassis was way to light duty for my taste. Those chassis im sure are plenty strong but i liked the C10 better.
Plus i hope to be able to haul a bobber motorcycle in the bed on the way to the local shows too

[pugs]

if you can let me know the measurements, track and crossmember mounting width

[jmlcolorado]

Can do. The crossmember mounts on the bottom surface of the frame w/ 3 bolts as well as the outside surface with another 3 bolts.
The steering box has 3 bolts on the outside frame surface the the passenger side support has 2 bolts on the outside of the frame.
I'll take measurements of all locations this afternoon and post em up.
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[wiggins]

I have an IH problem as well. Rebuilding a 392 as we speak for my unrestored 69 Travelall. Also a 71 P/U "Heavy Half" w 59,000 miles and a 78 Scout II w 54,000 original miles. If you want to see how sick I really am I also have 2 other Scouts, a 49' Farmall Super A, and an early 1900's 3hp IHC "Famous" Engine. Got hooked on thoose Scouts as a kid and just cant get enough of the old IHC's!

[jmlcolorado]

Originally Posted by pugs

if you can let me know the measurements, track and crossmember mounting width

okay, here ya go. This is probably more info then you wanted but oh well:

the crossmember gets narrow slightly as it moves from back to front.
Outside frame rail at front of crossmember is 29"
Outside frame rail at back of crossmember is 29 7/8"
Bottom mounting holes also follow this narrowing path.
Middle holes are 26 7/8" center to center.
The back one is 27" center to center.
The front one is 26 3/4" center to center.

The passenger side support for the track bar is mounted slightly rearward in comparison of the steering box. The measurements between the ball joint on the support on the passenger side and the ball joint on the pitman arm is 30 7/8". This will change depending on alignment needs.
The exact placement of the support arm really doesn't need to be exact (as colse as you can will work) as the track bar can move throughout its range still as long as the back to front angle matches the pitman arm of the drivers side. (I should clarify that i mean minor left to right placement. Front to back placement and angle should remain as close as possible to stock to keep things in line.)

Here are a few pictures.
In the 4th picture, you can see the 7 bolts holding the entire front crossmember section to the frame.

Hopefully this helps.

[jmlcolorado]

and heres a couple more just for good measure..... get it? HA

[jmlcolorado]

Anyone else find it funny that this thread is titled "ford and ih trucks" and im still giving measurements on a chevy?!

[dalbers]

Hey jmlcolorado, what mounts did you use to move the motor back?

[pugs]

thanx jml, it looks like it would be an easy bolt in for the IH, just have to see about total hub-hub track width. i sold off the ford yesterday as i was offered a good price for it. oh yea and didnt you know Chevy's are the universal parts cars and trucks for all other models

[jmlcolorado]

Originally Posted by dalbers

Hey jmlcolorado, what mounts did you use to move the motor back?

The motor mounts aren't completely done yet but I had to widen the ears on the factory mounts. I had 2 pair. Then I welded up new perches on the top of the frame. I still need to weld up a faux crossmember between the rails for the bolts on the bottom side of the mounts.
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[dalbers]

Cool, do you have a head on shot of the truck?

[jmlcolorado]

Originally Posted by dalbers

Cool, do you have a head on shot of the truck?

Oddly enough, i dont. but YOU my friend, just gave me the excuse to roll it out this weekend and get one!

(edit) Actually i have this one. But its horrible! This is right when i got the chassis, removed the springs, before the 6" zee and before the 3" section. So the cab is 9" lower then this now. Ought to be a cool comparison shot for once i get a current one.

[dalbers]

Cool, looking forward to seeing it. You got me wanting to go put my cab on the frame now!

[jmlcolorado]

Here are a few of where its at today.
I only have 2 wheel adapters (for the rear) so only the drivers side has the right wheel/tires.
I'm waiting for the disk conversion up front to mount everything up right.
The first picture is sitting with the frame layed out, parked.
The second is at the ride height.

[Pop's C-10]

That thing is killer...MOAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wiggins]

Any of you IH guy able to identify this bracket. I am putting my 392 ci for my Travelall back together and I cant remember where this thing goes. Thought I would figure it out as I went back with everything but I have not, lol. I made no reference to it in my notes so it must be something obvious. Any help is appreciated.