Horn doesn't work, do I need to pull steering wheel? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

emil77 · 04-24-2011, 01:55 PM

Hi guys,

The steering wheel in the picture below was put on by the previous owner. The horn hasn't worked since then, I'm thinking he forgot to connect something. When I put power to the horns inside the engine bay, they work. So somethings wrong with the steering wheel part. Do I need to remove the steering wheel, in order to work on the horn?
If not, could you please tell me how to remove just the area I need to work on for the horn? Can I pop off that center piece and the horn contacts will be exposed? If I do need to remove the steering wheel, use a steering wheel puller correct? Are there screw/bolts I need to loosen/remove first before pulling the steering wheel?

**Stocker** · 04-24-2011, 02:31 PM

Can't help you much with that wheel, sorry. But first, when you press the horn button, can you hear the horn relay click under the dash? If so, the steering wheel wiring is okay, and you're not getting -12vdc from the relay to the horns.

If the relay doesn't click, you'll probably need to remove at least the cap, if not the wheel. Grounding the wire (behind the wheel) will cause the horn relay to click.

Might be a good idea to remove the wire from your horns before pulling the wheel. That way when the relay operates, you'll just get a click instead of a blast from the horns.

Longhorn Man · 04-24-2011, 04:24 PM

I would check to see if you are getting a ground to the relay sent from the horn button before pulling the wheel

emil77 · 04-24-2011, 04:31 PM

Hi guys,

When I put a wire from the battery to the horns, there are 2 horns, (is that standard?) I can make both horns turn on. So the wires to the horn in the engine bay are working, just from the steering wheel to the horn there seems to be a problem.

**Stocker** · 04-24-2011, 04:56 PM

Yes, two horns are standard.

Grounding a wire at the steering wheel operates the horn relay. The horn relay then sends battery to the horns.

Maybe it's as simple as a blown fuse for the horn relay.

emil77 · 04-24-2011, 06:32 PM

Hmmm, a blown fuse. Hadn't thought of that. Would it be one of the fuses in the cab? If so, which one?

wwotr · 04-24-2011, 08:31 PM

watching...

*72lb4x4* · 04-24-2011, 09:48 PM

Chances are the person who installed the new wheel didn't understand how to make the horn button work and so its not hooked up.

Take off the inner part and post a pic...

The fuse panel doesn't seem to have a fuse for the horn: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=400597

emil77 · 04-24-2011, 11:43 PM

How do I take off the inner part? Should I just use a thin flat head screw driver?

emil77 · 04-26-2011, 02:43 PM

Update: I took off the inner part of the wheel and exposed the nut. After I removed the nut in the middle, I was moving the steering wheel and the horn went off for a second. Also, when I took of the horn, it fell out and that's what you see in picture number 1. It wasn't even attached at all! So I'm thinking that's my problem? I removed the nut holding the steering wheel, but couldn't take the wheel off completely, this is where the steering wheel puller comes in correct? In picture number 4, what is the little nut thing with the red "collar" to the left of the steering wheel nut? Is that where the wires attach?

Picture number 1:

Picture number 4:

dadsworktruck · 04-26-2011, 03:05 PM

can't help you on the first pic, that is not going to work at all, looks like you need to check out who made that wheel, but you can test the horn by grounding that springy pin thing to the center shaft, should blow, it's called horn contact.

emil77 · 04-26-2011, 03:30 PM

Ok, so that test worked. When I grounded the "springy pin thing" on the left to the center shaft, the horn blows. So, now what?!

JORGIE95961 · 04-26-2011, 03:41 PM

are you in love with that sterring wheel???

emil77 · 04-26-2011, 04:02 PM

Not really, I don't like how it says "GMC Trucks" instead of Chevy.

JORGIE95961 · 04-26-2011, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emil77

Not really, I don't like how it says "GMC Trucks" instead of Chevy.

then get rid of it bud i got one from a cavalier i totaly dig on mine
and the horn works great

emil77 · 04-26-2011, 04:20 PM

Do you have a picture?

JORGIE95961 · 04-26-2011, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emil77

Do you have a picture?

no bud i dont

dadsworktruck · 04-26-2011, 05:12 PM

This might shed some light to what you may have, now all you got to do is contact the company and ask about new horn cap, with either chevy on it or plain,,,,also might pay attention to wheel asembly i think it isnt correct, imo,,,also might need the part that has the wire that connectes to the horn cap......don

emil77 · 04-26-2011, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JORGIE95961

no bud i dont

Which year Cavalier wheel did you use?

Don, thanks for the info!

emil77 · 04-27-2011, 09:05 PM

My father and I fixed the steering wheel, good as new! There's a pic to show what we did.

04-24-2011, 01:55 PM	#1
emil77 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Tujunga, CA Posts: 262	Horn doesn't work, do I need to pull steering wheel? Hi guys, The steering wheel in the picture below was put on by the previous owner. The horn hasn't worked since then, I'm thinking he forgot to connect something. When I put power to the horns inside the engine bay, they work. So somethings wrong with the steering wheel part. Do I need to remove the steering wheel, in order to work on the horn? If not, could you please tell me how to remove just the area I need to work on for the horn? Can I pop off that center piece and the horn contacts will be exposed? If I do need to remove the steering wheel, use a steering wheel puller correct? Are there screw/bolts I need to loosen/remove first before pulling the steering wheel? __________________ Thanks, Emil 1972 Chevy C20

04-24-2011, 02:31 PM	#2
Stocker 20' Daredevil (Ret) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Jefferson State Posts: 13,586	Re: Horn doesn't work, do I need to pull steering wheel? Can't help you much with that wheel, sorry. But first, when you press the horn button, can you hear the horn relay click under the dash? If so, the steering wheel wiring is okay, and you're not getting -12vdc from the relay to the horns. If the relay doesn't click, you'll probably need to remove at least the cap, if not the wheel. Grounding the wire (behind the wheel) will cause the horn relay to click. Might be a good idea to remove the wire from your horns before pulling the wheel. That way when the relay operates, you'll just get a click instead of a blast from the horns. __________________ - Mike - 1972 K20 LWB 350/350/205 RIP El Jay

04-24-2011, 04:24 PM	#3
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Horn doesn't work, do I need to pull steering wheel? I would check to see if you are getting a ground to the relay sent from the horn button before pulling the wheel

04-24-2011, 04:31 PM	#4
emil77 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Tujunga, CA Posts: 262	Re: Horn doesn't work, do I need to pull steering wheel? Hi guys, When I put a wire from the battery to the horns, there are 2 horns, (is that standard?) I can make both horns turn on. So the wires to the horn in the engine bay are working, just from the steering wheel to the horn there seems to be a problem. __________________ Thanks, Emil 1972 Chevy C20

04-24-2011, 04:56 PM	#5
Stocker 20' Daredevil (Ret) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Jefferson State Posts: 13,586	Re: Horn doesn't work, do I need to pull steering wheel? Yes, two horns are standard. Grounding a wire at the steering wheel operates the horn relay. The horn relay then sends battery to the horns. Maybe it's as simple as a blown fuse for the horn relay. __________________ - Mike - 1972 K20 LWB 350/350/205 RIP El Jay Last edited by Stocker; 04-24-2011 at 04:57 PM.

04-24-2011, 06:32 PM	#6
emil77 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Tujunga, CA Posts: 262	Re: Horn doesn't work, do I need to pull steering wheel? Hmmm, a blown fuse. Hadn't thought of that. Would it be one of the fuses in the cab? If so, which one? __________________ Thanks, Emil 1972 Chevy C20

04-24-2011, 08:31 PM	#7
wwotr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Clearlake Oaks CA Posts: 1,716	Re: Horn doesn't work, do I need to pull steering wheel? watching... __________________ Hello members... I'd like you to know that I sold, my 72 GMC (Ratikle), back in November of 2011. I don't visit the site much anymore, but please feel free, to drop me a private message. RIP...."RATIKLE"

04-24-2011, 09:48 PM	#8
72lb4x4 Account Suspended Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: DFW Posts: 1,427	Re: Horn doesn't work, do I need to pull steering wheel? Chances are the person who installed the new wheel didn't understand how to make the horn button work and so its not hooked up. Take off the inner part and post a pic... The fuse panel doesn't seem to have a fuse for the horn: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=400597 Last edited by 72lb4x4; 04-24-2011 at 09:48 PM.

04-24-2011, 11:43 PM	#9
emil77 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Tujunga, CA Posts: 262	Re: Horn doesn't work, do I need to pull steering wheel? How do I take off the inner part? Should I just use a thin flat head screw driver? __________________ Thanks, Emil 1972 Chevy C20

04-26-2011, 02:43 PM	#10
emil77 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Tujunga, CA Posts: 262	Re: Horn doesn't work, do I need to pull steering wheel? Update: I took off the inner part of the wheel and exposed the nut. After I removed the nut in the middle, I was moving the steering wheel and the horn went off for a second. Also, when I took of the horn, it fell out and that's what you see in picture number 1. It wasn't even attached at all! So I'm thinking that's my problem? I removed the nut holding the steering wheel, but couldn't take the wheel off completely, this is where the steering wheel puller comes in correct? In picture number 4, what is the little nut thing with the red "collar" to the left of the steering wheel nut? Is that where the wires attach? Picture number 1: Picture number 4: __________________ Thanks, Emil 1972 Chevy C20

04-26-2011, 03:05 PM	#11
dadsworktruck Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: blacksburg,s.c. Posts: 155	Re: Horn doesn't work, do I need to pull steering wheel? can't help you on the first pic, that is not going to work at all, looks like you need to check out who made that wheel, but you can test the horn by grounding that springy pin thing to the center shaft, should blow, it's called horn contact.

04-26-2011, 03:30 PM	#12
emil77 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Tujunga, CA Posts: 262	Re: Horn doesn't work, do I need to pull steering wheel? Ok, so that test worked. When I grounded the "springy pin thing" on the left to the center shaft, the horn blows. So, now what?! __________________ Thanks, Emil 1972 Chevy C20

04-26-2011, 03:41 PM	#13
JORGIE95961 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: OLIVEHURST CA Posts: 570	Re: Horn doesn't work, do I need to pull steering wheel? are you in love with that sterring wheel???

04-26-2011, 04:02 PM	#14
emil77 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Tujunga, CA Posts: 262	Re: Horn doesn't work, do I need to pull steering wheel? Not really, I don't like how it says "GMC Trucks" instead of Chevy. __________________ Thanks, Emil 1972 Chevy C20

04-26-2011, 04:20 PM	#16
emil77 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Tujunga, CA Posts: 262	Re: Horn doesn't work, do I need to pull steering wheel? Do you have a picture? __________________ Thanks, Emil 1972 Chevy C20



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04-26-2011, 05:12 PM	#18
dadsworktruck Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: blacksburg,s.c. Posts: 155	Re: Horn doesn't work, do I need to pull steering wheel? This might shed some light to what you may have, now all you got to do is contact the company and ask about new horn cap, with either chevy on it or plain,,,,also might pay attention to wheel asembly i think it isnt correct, imo,,,also might need the part that has the wire that connectes to the horn cap......don Attached Images

04-27-2011, 09:05 PM	#20
emil77 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Tujunga, CA Posts: 262	Re: Horn doesn't work, do I need to pull steering wheel? My father and I fixed the steering wheel, good as new! There's a pic to show what we did. __________________ Thanks, Emil 1972 Chevy C20

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