how to remount the back-up switch on a tilt (van)column?? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

BUXMAN66 · 04-04-2003, 04:41 AM

tried to ask this question b-4....w/ individual who sold it to me....but he ain't got time i guess. problem: the back-up switch that is located on the column needs to be mounted lower on the column....but the slot that the plastic "prong" of the switch rests in a groove in the inner portion of the column itself.i can do some dremel work and make a slot in the column's outer shell..but what is the solution to the groove that needs to be in the inner column's rod length?would like to retain the use of my back-up lights if at all possible............on another note, if anybody out there offers help w/ tech. questions and won't respond to an e-mail or a p.m. JUST DON'T MAKE THE OFFER TO HELP! 'nuff said.

Solver · 04-04-2003, 07:45 AM

I also asked and was hoping a member that had done this could help me out. I can maybe see how you could run without backup but that is also the neutral saftey switch which I think is kind of important. If there is someone who has done this I would really appreciate a reply also. With maybe some details on the process.
The part I am wondering about is the inner tube slot. It is circled in red in picture. The problem is it is only a little longer than neutral saftey switch slot. It does not run full lenght of tube. How are you cutting this out lower down on column.sorry about bright picture.
Thanks

junkyardjohn · 04-04-2003, 10:54 AM

BUXMAN -- HI THAD.. I'LL EMAIL YOU A LITTLE LATER THIS MORNING. I WAN'T TO HAVE ONE OF THESE TILT COLLUMS IN FRONT OF ME WHILE I FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS YOU NEED TO KNOW. I HAVE BEEN REALLY BUSY FOR THE LAST 36 HOURS, & HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO HANG OUT ON THE COMPUTER. PATIENTS GRASSHOPPER PATIENTS. JOHN

BUXMAN66 · 04-04-2003, 03:19 PM

how far down the column does the switch need to be to clear everything but yet not come in contact w/ the firewall? als can't you drill new holes on column to hook back up the switch mounting point....and not have to weld it?....or was the weld easier for you ....?thanks for any and all help......sorry john for the snittiness......youre right...i did have more time than you,my bad!!

junkyardjohn · 04-04-2003, 04:03 PM

OK I'M BACK FOR A FEW MINUTES (TOOK A LUNCH BREAK) I'VE BEEN DOING THE BODYWORK, & GETTING READY TO PAINT A 72 JAG. FOR THE BODYSHOP DOWN THE ROAD. (WHAT A PAIN) OK STEERING COLLUMB....... I DON'T REMEMBER EVER DOING ANY WELDING ON ANY OF THEM, BUT THEN AGAIN, I USUALLY BY-PASS THE SWITCH ALTOGETHER. I'VE DONE ALOT OF THESE FOR ME & OTHER PEOPLE, & ONE I MENTION THAT I GET AN EXTRA $100 FOR RELOCATING THE NUETRAL SAFTY SWITCH, MOST PEOPLE OPT TO BYPASS IT ALSO.
THE STOCK LOCATION ON A VAN COLLUMB IS 11" BELOW THE BOTTOM EDGE OF THE SHIFTER COLLAR. THE NEW LOCATION IS 18" FOR IT TO FIT IN A PICKUP. THERE ARE THREE SEPERATE TUBES OR SHAFTS IN THE COLLUMB. THE CENTER SHAFT IS SOLID & WONT BE TOUCHED, THIS IS THE STEERING SHAFT THAT GOES FROM YOUR STEERING GEARBOX TO YOUR STEERING WHEEL.
THE OUTER HOUSING ON THE COLLUMB NEEDS TO BE CUT FOR THE SWITCH ITSELF TO MOUNT TO. THIS IS EASY ENOUGH WITH A DRILL & A DIE GRINDER, OR CUTOFF WHEEL. JUST DUPLICATE THE MOUNTING HOLE 7" OR SO FARTHER DOWN THE SHAFT.
THE HOLE ON THE INNER TUBE....... NOW THIS IS THE TUBE THAT CONNECTS TO YOUR SHIFTER. (TURN THE STEERING SHAFT) (SEE NO EFFECT) NOW MOVE THE SHIFTER LEVER (PRETEND YOUR SHIFTING GEARS) SEE HOW MOVING THIS SHAFT WITH THE SLOT IN IT, WILL EFFECT THE NUETRAL SAFTY SWITCH???? YOU NEED TO DUPLICATE THIS SLOT IN ITS LOCATION. A DRILL & A DIE GRINDER WILL DO THE JOB.
HERES A COUPLE OF PIC.S I HOPE WILL CLEAR UP YOUR QUESTIONS.
WELL ...... BACK TO WORK ON THE JAG. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS....... POST EM......OR EMAIL ME & I'LL GET BACK TO YOU THIS EVENING. I'M NOT IGNORING YOU........ JUST VERY VERY BUSY. & NO MORE SNIDE OR RUDE COMMENTS.

junkyardjohn · 04-04-2003, 04:06 PM

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junkyardjohn · 04-05-2003, 12:58 AM

TTTFLM

BUXMAN66 · 04-05-2003, 02:45 AM

solver, you catch that? i think that pretty much details what we need to do to the column.thanks for the info...jj.

big.l.a · 04-05-2003, 07:12 AM

What I did was take the back up switch from a 70's VAN and put in on my truck(Junk yard find). It's on the side of the tranny where the shifter is.
make sure you get the shifter linkage as well. A few adjustment and I had back up lites again....

Jeff M. · 04-05-2003, 11:47 AM

Well, I've done this twice. Used the dremmel to cut out the column then welded a little L-bracket to the inner tube. Drilled the two screw holes that hold the switch on. Works mint. Also, I lowered the column, farther away from driver. I would suggest you loosley mount the column then crawl under the dash and mark where you want the switch, pull it out and go to town. Whole operation took an couple of hours.

04-04-2003, 04:41 AM	#1
BUXMAN66 go bucks! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: MIAMISBURG OHIO USA Posts: 803	how to remount the back-up switch on a tilt (van)column?? tried to ask this question b-4....w/ individual who sold it to me....but he ain't got time i guess. problem: the back-up switch that is located on the column needs to be mounted lower on the column....but the slot that the plastic "prong" of the switch rests in a groove in the inner portion of the column itself.i can do some dremel work and make a slot in the column's outer shell..but what is the solution to the groove that needs to be in the inner column's rod length?would like to retain the use of my back-up lights if at all possible............on another note, if anybody out there offers help w/ tech. questions and won't respond to an e-mail or a p.m. JUST DON'T MAKE THE OFFER TO HELP! 'nuff said. __________________ '68 swb 1/2t 350/350th '86 lngbd 3/4 TON parts getter '49 gmc 1/2 t 5 window 350/350th '96 gmc sonoma sle ext-cab. hey it's a 4cyl. 5 spd and good on gas y'know?

04-04-2003, 07:45 AM	#2
Solver Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Storm Lake, Ia Posts: 1,449	I also asked and was hoping a member that had done this could help me out. I can maybe see how you could run without backup but that is also the neutral saftey switch which I think is kind of important. If there is someone who has done this I would really appreciate a reply also. With maybe some details on the process. The part I am wondering about is the inner tube slot. It is circled in red in picture. The problem is it is only a little longer than neutral saftey switch slot. It does not run full lenght of tube. How are you cutting this out lower down on column.sorry about bright picture. Thanks Attached Images __________________ 1972 Cheyenne Super 20 LWB-Blue 1972 Cheyenne Super 10 LWB-Black 1972 Cheyenne Super 10 LWB-Red 1972 Cheyenne Super 10 LWB-green 1972 GMC 4x4 LWB-White 1971 Cheyenne 10 LWB-Ochre 1971 Cheyenne 20 Longhorn-Copper 1971 Cheyenne 20 Longhorn-Black 1969 Custom 10 LWB-lt blue 1968 GMC 3/4 ton-green 1968 1/2 ton swb stepside-silver 1967 Chevrolet CST 10 LWB-green 1967 Chevrolet custom 20 LWB-Maroon

04-04-2003, 10:54 AM	#3
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,425	BUXMAN -- HI THAD.. I'LL EMAIL YOU A LITTLE LATER THIS MORNING. I WAN'T TO HAVE ONE OF THESE TILT COLLUMS IN FRONT OF ME WHILE I FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS YOU NEED TO KNOW. I HAVE BEEN REALLY BUSY FOR THE LAST 36 HOURS, & HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO HANG OUT ON THE COMPUTER. PATIENTS GRASSHOPPER PATIENTS. JOHN __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST

04-04-2003, 03:19 PM	#4
BUXMAN66 go bucks! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: MIAMISBURG OHIO USA Posts: 803	how far down the column does the switch need to be to clear everything but yet not come in contact w/ the firewall? als can't you drill new holes on column to hook back up the switch mounting point....and not have to weld it?....or was the weld easier for you ....?thanks for any and all help......sorry john for the snittiness......youre right...i did have more time than you,my bad!! __________________ '68 swb 1/2t 350/350th '86 lngbd 3/4 TON parts getter '49 gmc 1/2 t 5 window 350/350th '96 gmc sonoma sle ext-cab. hey it's a 4cyl. 5 spd and good on gas y'know?

04-04-2003, 04:03 PM	#5
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,425	OK I'M BACK FOR A FEW MINUTES (TOOK A LUNCH BREAK) I'VE BEEN DOING THE BODYWORK, & GETTING READY TO PAINT A 72 JAG. FOR THE BODYSHOP DOWN THE ROAD. (WHAT A PAIN) OK STEERING COLLUMB....... I DON'T REMEMBER EVER DOING ANY WELDING ON ANY OF THEM, BUT THEN AGAIN, I USUALLY BY-PASS THE SWITCH ALTOGETHER. I'VE DONE ALOT OF THESE FOR ME & OTHER PEOPLE, & ONE I MENTION THAT I GET AN EXTRA $100 FOR RELOCATING THE NUETRAL SAFTY SWITCH, MOST PEOPLE OPT TO BYPASS IT ALSO. THE STOCK LOCATION ON A VAN COLLUMB IS 11" BELOW THE BOTTOM EDGE OF THE SHIFTER COLLAR. THE NEW LOCATION IS 18" FOR IT TO FIT IN A PICKUP. THERE ARE THREE SEPERATE TUBES OR SHAFTS IN THE COLLUMB. THE CENTER SHAFT IS SOLID & WONT BE TOUCHED, THIS IS THE STEERING SHAFT THAT GOES FROM YOUR STEERING GEARBOX TO YOUR STEERING WHEEL. THE OUTER HOUSING ON THE COLLUMB NEEDS TO BE CUT FOR THE SWITCH ITSELF TO MOUNT TO. THIS IS EASY ENOUGH WITH A DRILL & A DIE GRINDER, OR CUTOFF WHEEL. JUST DUPLICATE THE MOUNTING HOLE 7" OR SO FARTHER DOWN THE SHAFT. THE HOLE ON THE INNER TUBE....... NOW THIS IS THE TUBE THAT CONNECTS TO YOUR SHIFTER. (TURN THE STEERING SHAFT) (SEE NO EFFECT) NOW MOVE THE SHIFTER LEVER (PRETEND YOUR SHIFTING GEARS) SEE HOW MOVING THIS SHAFT WITH THE SLOT IN IT, WILL EFFECT THE NUETRAL SAFTY SWITCH???? YOU NEED TO DUPLICATE THIS SLOT IN ITS LOCATION. A DRILL & A DIE GRINDER WILL DO THE JOB. HERES A COUPLE OF PIC.S I HOPE WILL CLEAR UP YOUR QUESTIONS. WELL ...... BACK TO WORK ON THE JAG. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS....... POST EM......OR EMAIL ME & I'LL GET BACK TO YOU THIS EVENING. I'M NOT IGNORING YOU........ JUST VERY VERY BUSY. & NO MORE SNIDE OR RUDE COMMENTS. Attached Images __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST

04-04-2003, 04:06 PM	#6
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,425	ANOTHER Attached Images __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST

04-05-2003, 12:58 AM	#7
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,425	TTTFLM __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST

04-05-2003, 02:45 AM	#8
BUXMAN66 go bucks! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: MIAMISBURG OHIO USA Posts: 803	solver, you catch that? i think that pretty much details what we need to do to the column.thanks for the info...jj. __________________ '68 swb 1/2t 350/350th '86 lngbd 3/4 TON parts getter '49 gmc 1/2 t 5 window 350/350th '96 gmc sonoma sle ext-cab. hey it's a 4cyl. 5 spd and good on gas y'know?

04-05-2003, 07:12 AM	#9
big.l.a Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Allen, TX. USA Posts: 210	Back up SWITCH RELO What I did was take the back up switch from a 70's VAN and put in on my truck(Junk yard find). It's on the side of the tranny where the shifter is. make sure you get the shifter linkage as well. A few adjustment and I had back up lites again.... __________________ 71 C10 LWB With Edelbrock 7101& 1406 Carb Accel HEI Blue Print Accel 8.8 Wires Soon to have possi & 186 Camel hump heads Dropped 2-1/2F&4R Dynomax Headers Duals Flowtech Aftburners Tonneau Cover Frm 89 F150 79 Monte C

04-05-2003, 11:47 AM	#10
Jeff M. Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Pixley, Ca. Posts: 486	Well, I've done this twice. Used the dremmel to cut out the column then welded a little L-bracket to the inner tube. Drilled the two screw holes that hold the switch on. Works mint. Also, I lowered the column, farther away from driver. I would suggest you loosley mount the column then crawl under the dash and mark where you want the switch, pull it out and go to town. Whole operation took an couple of hours. __________________ 69 C-10 CST Short Fleet, Factory Air, BB427-400 Auto-2400 stall-tilt-cruise-Tach & Vac Gagues, 4/6 drop, power one piece side windows, Eaton posi.



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