Vortec heads for 100 bucks??? Whats up with that ?? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

LOHRTBT · 04-04-2003, 12:05 PM

Where are they ?? who posted they could maybe get them??? ANy news yet??

gldevall · 04-04-2003, 12:09 PM

I have a set, but I would like to get more than a hundred bucks for them.

Low87 · 04-04-2003, 12:17 PM

It was ironwood, and for $50.
http://64.246.42.114/vboard/showthre...ghlight=vortec

CHaingKaiShek · 04-04-2003, 12:21 PM

Sounds like one of those too good to be true (or worth it) kinda things.

Jeff

LOHRTBT · 04-04-2003, 01:26 PM

head*S* that is why I said 100 foolio!! haha
Thanks

Mike76251 · 04-04-2003, 02:45 PM

I wouldn't give $50 bucks for a set IMO.
The iron in them is junk and they are cast with very thin walls to boot.
I see them go for real cheap all the time.
If you really want a set I would suggest a new set from Jegs or Summit.
Rarely can you rebuild a old set 'cause they crack so easy so it is usually cheaper just to get them new.
They are known at Chevrolet as "disposable" heads and for good reason.

LOHRTBT · 04-04-2003, 02:47 PM

oK. What ever your smokin....can you pass it around???

Low87 · 04-04-2003, 03:11 PM

What experience have you had with the vortec heads being crap?

LOHRTBT · 04-04-2003, 03:35 PM

I hate my Vortec heads....it just pisses me off when I smoke people with them!! hahahaa

PHOENIX · 04-04-2003, 03:47 PM

Tom is going to get angry

*1FaastC10* · 04-04-2003, 04:02 PM

heh, GM says they can be milled up to .040, sounds like a weak casting to me....

79BIG10 · 04-04-2003, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike76251

They are known at Chevrolet as "disposable" heads and for good reason.

I always thought about the smog heads not vortecs.

Tom · 04-04-2003, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PHOENIX
Tom is going to get angry

Im so pissed right now!!!!
Seriously though, vortecs are as thin as any other smog head. Ive smashed 11 of my valves in stock vortecs againts the pistons, with no cracks. They are not bad heads. If they stink so bad, give em too me!

Mike76251 · 04-04-2003, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Low87
What experience have you had with the vortec heads being crap?

Low87,
If you are talking to me....
I read every book that comes out on small block Chevys.
I have thirty or so now and have read them all several times(ie: I need a life. LOL)
I also keep track of the price of things like this through several sources and I have noticed the Vortec heads really fall in price since they came out.
There is a reason for this. Same thing with "powered rods" or post 1987 forged Chevy rods, you can't give them away.
I know several people in the head rebuilding trade that say the same thing about the Vortecs.
One way to tell the quality of a head is weigh it. The more metal= the longer lasting.
Vortecs are REAL light.
I tend to get over 300,000 miles out of a small block and there is a reason for this. Not just one engine either but four so far.
I am not going to tell you which head to buy because there are so many good ones out there and the Vortec ain't one of 'em (IMO).

*1FaastC10* · 04-04-2003, 04:52 PM

Mike, have you ever run a set of Vortecs before? if so, did they crack? it doesnt matter what your machince shop buddy says at this point. just becaue someone brings him a set of cracked Vortecs doesnt automaticlly mean they're all junk. with no idea of the history of the particular engine they came off of, it may have been overheated repeatedly, which would crack even the
"heaviest" heads. personally, i have a set of Vortecs that i bought used. i know they have been abused, they came out of a firetruck, and they are never run easy. they have been checked for cracks, and warpage. both came back perfect. after 80,000 hard miles if they're not cracked or warped, they probably wont for some time to come.

Mike76251 · 04-04-2003, 05:28 PM

1Fast C10,
You have had good luck with them........
Glad to see it indeed.

My experience falls mostly with full-tilt racing engines.
The cost-is-no-object type. IE: Nascar and Porsche V8s

I build my engines (myself) to turn 6000rpm ALL DAY.

That said.
I have had two sets of Chevy's lightweight castings (one Vortec=one "smog" crap) fail due to cracks between the valves.

The heads could not take it.
The "heavy" ones can.

I know everyone out there cannot afford the ARAO Engineering 32 v heads or the like and some of you (?) want to get the most miles you can out of a engine before you open the old wallet.

Hence the post.

04-04-2003, 12:05 PM	#1
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04-04-2003, 12:09 PM	#2
gldevall Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Walker, LA Posts: 2,925	I have a set, but I would like to get more than a hundred bucks for them. __________________ Gary -1986 SWB: lowered 4/6, SOLD!!! -Best 1/4 mile: 14.51 @ 91.01 MPH -2001 Pewter Tahoe, billet grill, Corsa Sport Cat-back, K&N FIPK SOLD!!! -2004 Z-71 Extended cab with a flowmaster, BDS 6.5", 3" BL, 35x12.5x18 Trail Grapplers on Pro-Comp 18x9 wheels

04-04-2003, 12:17 PM	#3
Low87 been here longer than Liz Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Broken Arrow, OK Posts: 2,437	It was ironwood, and for $50. http://64.246.42.114/vboard/showthre...ghlight=vortec __________________ ~Greg~ Mac's Garage '87 SWB 6/8 drop "Piso" '08 CCSB Silverado DD the departed '89 GMC K5 Jimmy 4x4 "Rusty Nuts" '77 Chevy K5 Blazer 2wd '83 Chevy stepside "You get what you pay for" - Mike 'swervin ervin' Ervin

04-04-2003, 12:21 PM	#4
CHaingKaiShek I love goooooold! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In the middle of Hell, Arizona Posts: 133	Sounds like one of those too good to be true (or worth it) kinda things. Jeff __________________ "Musha ring dum a doo dum a da Whack for my daddy-o Whack for my daddy-o There's whiskey in the jar-o."

04-04-2003, 01:26 PM	#5
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	headS that is why I said 100 foolio!! haha Thanks __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

04-04-2003, 02:45 PM	#6
Mike76251 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,500	I wouldn't give $50 bucks for a set IMO. The iron in them is junk and they are cast with very thin walls to boot. I see them go for real cheap all the time. If you really want a set I would suggest a new set from Jegs or Summit. Rarely can you rebuild a old set 'cause they crack so easy so it is usually cheaper just to get them new. They are known at Chevrolet as "disposable" heads and for good reason.

04-04-2003, 02:47 PM	#7
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	oK. What ever your smokin....can you pass it around??? __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

04-04-2003, 03:11 PM	#8
Low87 been here longer than Liz Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Broken Arrow, OK Posts: 2,437	What experience have you had with the vortec heads being crap? __________________ ~Greg~ Mac's Garage '87 SWB 6/8 drop "Piso" '08 CCSB Silverado DD the departed '89 GMC K5 Jimmy 4x4 "Rusty Nuts" '77 Chevy K5 Blazer 2wd '83 Chevy stepside "You get what you pay for" - Mike 'swervin ervin' Ervin

04-04-2003, 03:35 PM	#9
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	I hate my Vortec heads....it just pisses me off when I smoke people with them!! hahahaa __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

04-04-2003, 03:47 PM	#10
PHOENIX Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 4,703	Tom is going to get angry __________________ * AVOID: LOPER'S PERMORANCE / LOPERSPEED.COM OF PHOENIX, AZ & COTTMAN TRANSMISSION *

04-04-2003, 04:02 PM	#11
1FaastC10 Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Elkhart, IN Posts: 6,400	heh, GM says they can be milled up to .040, sounds like a weak casting to me....

04-04-2003, 04:52 PM	#15
1FaastC10 Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Elkhart, IN Posts: 6,400	Mike, have you ever run a set of Vortecs before? if so, did they crack? it doesnt matter what your machince shop buddy says at this point. just becaue someone brings him a set of cracked Vortecs doesnt automaticlly mean they're all junk. with no idea of the history of the particular engine they came off of, it may have been overheated repeatedly, which would crack even the "heaviest" heads. personally, i have a set of Vortecs that i bought used. i know they have been abused, they came out of a firetruck, and they are never run easy. they have been checked for cracks, and warpage. both came back perfect. after 80,000 hard miles if they're not cracked or warped, they probably wont for some time to come.

04-04-2003, 05:28 PM	#16
Mike76251 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,500	1Fast C10, You have had good luck with them........ Glad to see it indeed. My experience falls mostly with full-tilt racing engines. The cost-is-no-object type. IE: Nascar and Porsche V8s I build my engines (myself) to turn 6000rpm ALL DAY. That said. I have had two sets of Chevy's lightweight castings (one Vortec=one "smog" crap) fail due to cracks between the valves. The heads could not take it. The "heavy" ones can. I know everyone out there cannot afford the ARAO Engineering 32 v heads or the like and some of you (?) want to get the most miles you can out of a engine before you open the old wallet. Hence the post.



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