Chevrolet Silverado RUSSIA need help - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Katsura · 09-12-2011, 05:06 AM

Hi folks!

Have a great dilemma about buying a 1983 Chevy Silverado. 6.2 diesel, 2wd as I understood. Always dreamed about real american pick-up, and now have a chance to buy it, but really afraid a little))
I live in Russia, and we don't have here a lot of such cars. Same situation with any car parts and specialists or even manuals..
So, I show you some pics, and will wait for you comments. May be you can give me some wise advices)))
Thanx in advance...

Karnage · 09-12-2011, 05:39 AM

Trust me, American pickups are built like tanks, especially the older models like the one you posted. As good as these trucks are, I think it would a problem for you living in Russia to get one in such poor condition. Don't get me wrong, you will never find an older vehicle without rust and scratches, but that one is just a bit too rusty. If you found it here in America and lived in America, that would not be such a problem because you would be able to replace the parts with the most rust, especially if they start to fall apart. My advice is to find a Chevy pickup in better condition.

Otherwise, you wont be able to keep it for long. Most of us here know that we will have to replace parts for our old trucks every once in awhile. It's hard enough for us here in America to find those parts and I bet it's even harder in Russia. If you don't mind buying import parts for that truck and most likely paying more to fix it than what you will buy it for, by all means, buy it!

By the way, how is the motor? That's the most important part.

Katsura · 09-12-2011, 08:00 AM

Maga, thank for you answer!
The motor and common technical condition is perfect (for today) - it was always "on it's weels" and I really worry about rusty frame (bed? don't know right word). I don't realy know if it's will be possible to renew it here... In fact, it's no problem to buy all nessesery from ebay, but the price for shipping is scaring...
By the way, seller wants to get 5000$ for this car... It's almost an american price, isn't it?

Karnage · 09-12-2011, 08:56 AM

Well over here in America, you could get a Chevy truck as nice as this for that price:

[H?H] Other: 1974 Chevy K10 Scottsdale -...

But of course these trucks are more rare in Russia so I guess people over there want more money for them.

willett · 09-12-2011, 02:14 PM

In Russia, Truck drive you!

Katsura · 09-12-2011, 02:55 PM

In Russia a lot of things drive us))))
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rwhit57 · 09-12-2011, 04:51 PM

First off Welcome. I'm impressed that are any old Chevy trucks over there. That truck here would be around $1200-1500. I'm not too fond of the old diesels. It looks weird on the leaf springs, there is a bunch of them and they look bent (may be the pic). I'm going to guess and say you could have one shipped from the US for $4-5000. My point is you would be far better off finding a decent one here and having it shipped to you. Maybe some folks here could help find one for you.

Karnage · 09-12-2011, 04:59 PM

Hey there, it's maga, I decided to do a name change. *I did contact an admin to let them know* I've seen a handful of nice trucks like mine in the video I posted earlier for cheaper than $5,000usd. I doubt any of them would be willing to sell their trucks over the internet tho. Most owners of good quality older vehicles like to meet the person they are selling their vehicle to. If I ever sell mine, I know I'd like to know who will be driving it.

Katsura · 09-13-2011, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by rwhit57

First off Welcome. I'm impressed that are any old Chevy trucks over there. That truck here would be around $1200-1500. I'm not too fond of the old diesels. It looks weird on the leaf springs, there is a bunch of them and they look bent (may be the pic). I'm going to guess and say you could have one shipped from the US for $4-5000. My point is you would be far better off finding a decent one here and having it shipped to you. Maybe some folks here could help find one for you.

The variant of shipping from USA is not mine. Customs taxes for such an old car is 5.7 €/sm3 (for this car is about 50 000$!!!) So, it's impossible to get this car from US.
Anyway thank you for help.

*78 Chevyrado* · 09-12-2011, 05:48 PM

Is that $5,000 USD? seems high... I know they're rare there, but I'm trying to think of rare cars in the US and $5k seems high for one that needs total restoration and is rusty. depends on how much you think its worth. how many of these trucks have you even seen before? that will help you decide how much you want it and how rare it is.

irishman999 · 09-12-2011, 09:27 PM

I dont know how much fuel costs in Russia but just thought I would mention the 6.2 Diesel gets incredible mileage and has decent power.

Before getting serious with it check out the motor, its really easy to ruin a 6.2 with starting fluid. Gm made a crap glow plug controller that would fail and alot of times led to starting fluid causing serious damage.

Have you seen it run yet?

Katsura · 09-13-2011, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by irishman999

I dont know how much fuel costs in Russia but just thought I would mention the 6.2 Diesel gets incredible mileage and has decent power.

Before getting serious with it check out the motor, its really easy to ruin a 6.2 with starting fluid. Gm made a crap glow plug controller that would fail and alot of times led to starting fluid causing serious damage.

Have you seen it run yet?

Fuel cost is not a problem for today. Previos owner says that it runs ~18 mpg. I think, it's not too much for 6,2..
Irishman, would you please explain me about possible problems with motor one more time. I'm not very good at technical English, so please talk to me like you are to explain it to 6-years boy (bold 120 kg weight boy with beard)...

This car is running now. And my feelings that the technical condition is very nice. But with the little nuance: if you push the acceleration pedal to hard/quick (like for burnout for example or quick start {so hard to find english word}) engine will stop. Looks like it swallow air. The problem isn't looks too serious, but may be it's just beggining... Can't even imagine..

Edahall · 09-13-2011, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Katsura

Fuel cost is not a problem for today. Previos owner says that it runs ~18 mpg. I think, it's not too much for 6,2..
Irishman, would you please explain me about possible problems with motor one more time. I'm not very good at technical English, so please talk to me like you are to explain it to 6-years boy (bold 120 kg weight boy with beard)...

This car is running now. And my feelings that the technical condition is very nice. But with the little nuance: if you push the acceleration pedal to hard/quick (like for burnout for example or quick start {so hard to find english word}) engine will stop. Looks like it swallow air. The problem isn't looks too serious, but may be it's just beggining... Can't even imagine..

It sounds like the fuel filter is plugged. There are 2 fuel filters on the truck. One is on the passenger side fire wall and the other is on the back of the air handler. Both need to be replaced however, the small filter on the back of the air handler is kind of hard to get to.

I would definitely change these filters out and see if it corrects the problem before buying. It could also be the injector pump as well but start with the easy stuff first.

Katsura · 09-13-2011, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Edahall

It sounds like the fuel filter is plugged. There are 2 fuel filters on the truck. One is on the passenger side fire wall and the other is on the back of the air handler. Both need to be replaced however, the small filter on the back of the air handler is kind of hard to get to.

I would definitely change these filters out and see if it corrects the problem before buying. It could also be the injector pump as well but start with the easy stuff first.

Thanks a lot for definite answer! Will try to find this filters!

irishman999 · 09-14-2011, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katsura

Fuel cost is not a problem for today. Previos owner says that it runs ~18 mpg. I think, it's not too much for 6,2..
Irishman, would you please explain me about possible problems with motor one more time. I'm not very good at technical English, so please talk to me like you are to explain it to 6-years boy (bold 120 kg weight boy with beard)...

This car is running now. And my feelings that the technical condition is very nice. But with the little nuance: if you push the acceleration pedal to hard/quick (like for burnout for example or quick start {so hard to find english word}) engine will stop. Looks like it swallow air. The problem isn't looks too serious, but may be it's just beggining... Can't even imagine..

Haha, your English seems fine to me. If there is sentences that don't make sense just quote them and maybe I can explain it differently.

Alot of determining if a 6.2 is junk or not is during starting the engine. Alot of the engines get destroyed by people using starting fluid on them. If the engine starts easily and does not smoke when its warmed up you have a good 6.2 diesel. I was about to swap a used one into my pickup and this is what some 6.2 enthusiasts told me to do.

The stalling problem could be something easy, I seem to remember something about the timing chains stretching out and messing with the fuel timing.

Katsura · 09-13-2011, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 78 Chevyrado

Is that $5,000 USD? seems high... I know they're rare there, but I'm trying to think of rare cars in the US and $5k seems high for one that needs total restoration and is rusty. depends on how much you think its worth. how many of these trucks have you even seen before? that will help you decide how much you want it and how rare it is.

It's very rare, really. It's only one today for sale in whole Russia http://trucks.auto.ru/light_trucks/u...18-2aa363.html
Look at price - it's only 17 000$

)))))

Karnage · 09-13-2011, 03:58 AM

I've got a solution that can fix all of this... Move to America. lol

Katsura · 09-13-2011, 04:07 AM

Karange,

Katsura · 09-13-2011, 04:25 AM

Some more rusty pics

motornut · 09-13-2011, 07:30 AM

you may wana check the cab mounts to the frame,to see how it is there
follow the body line down the drivers side, it looks to drop some before the bed

thirdstreettito · 09-13-2011, 02:10 PM

Katsure, if I were you I would buy a nice truck from the US and have it imported/shipped to Belarus.

Katsura · 09-13-2011, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by thirdstreettito

Katsure, if I were you I would buy a nice truck from the US and have it imported/shipped to Belarus.

And pay 50000$ taxes? No, Thanx))
It's easier to move to US.))
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Pyrotechnic · 09-13-2011, 02:48 PM

That's crazy. It's cheaper to move a person across the world than it is to move a truck.

Are the customs/taxes bad on parts too?

Katsura · 09-13-2011, 03:00 PM

Only for the car. And it's depend on engine volume and manufacturing year. For parts it's only 30% of common price tax.
Yes, it's crazy. But we live in this reality.
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cjlinkster · 09-13-2011, 08:28 PM

This thread has sparked my interest...

Katsura, what kind of 1/2 or 3/4 ton trucks do you guys have over there? Post us a picture of what they look like. Do you ever see any Unimogs?

For $5000, I would want to find a truck in nicer shape. However you maybe able to haggle the seller down to $4000?

So you are from Belarus, do you happen to work at the tractor factory there? It's supposed to be the largest tractor factory in the world.

09-12-2011, 05:06 AM	#1
Katsura Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Minsk, Belarus Posts: 12	Chevrolet Silverado RUSSIA need help Hi folks! Have a great dilemma about buying a 1983 Chevy Silverado. 6.2 diesel, 2wd as I understood. Always dreamed about real american pick-up, and now have a chance to buy it, but really afraid a little)) I live in Russia, and we don't have here a lot of such cars. Same situation with any car parts and specialists or even manuals.. So, I show you some pics, and will wait for you comments. May be you can give me some wise advices))) Thanx in advance... Attached Images

09-12-2011, 05:39 AM	#2
Karnage Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: California USA Posts: 64	Re: Chevrolet Silverado RUSSIA need help Trust me, American pickups are built like tanks, especially the older models like the one you posted. As good as these trucks are, I think it would a problem for you living in Russia to get one in such poor condition. Don't get me wrong, you will never find an older vehicle without rust and scratches, but that one is just a bit too rusty. If you found it here in America and lived in America, that would not be such a problem because you would be able to replace the parts with the most rust, especially if they start to fall apart. My advice is to find a Chevy pickup in better condition. Otherwise, you wont be able to keep it for long. Most of us here know that we will have to replace parts for our old trucks every once in awhile. It's hard enough for us here in America to find those parts and I bet it's even harder in Russia. If you don't mind buying import parts for that truck and most likely paying more to fix it than what you will buy it for, by all means, buy it! By the way, how is the motor? That's the most important part.

09-12-2011, 08:00 AM	#3
Katsura Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Minsk, Belarus Posts: 12	Re: Chevrolet Silverado RUSSIA need help Maga, thank for you answer! The motor and common technical condition is perfect (for today) - it was always "on it's weels" and I really worry about rusty frame (bed? don't know right word). I don't realy know if it's will be possible to renew it here... In fact, it's no problem to buy all nessesery from ebay, but the price for shipping is scaring... By the way, seller wants to get 5000$ for this car... It's almost an american price, isn't it?

09-12-2011, 02:14 PM	#5
willett Another Day, Another Dollar Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: North Vancouver, BC Posts: 1,316	Re: Chevrolet Silverado RUSSIA need help In Russia, Truck drive you! __________________ -78 K20 Cheyenne 454 long box, 4" lift, 35" MT's, '84 cab, '80 box "its hip to be square"

09-12-2011, 02:55 PM	#6
Katsura Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Minsk, Belarus Posts: 12	Re: Chevrolet Silverado RUSSIA need help In Russia a lot of things drive us)))) Posted via Mobile Device

09-12-2011, 04:51 PM	#7
rwhit57 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Tulsa,Okla Posts: 590	Re: Chevrolet Silverado RUSSIA need help First off Welcome. I'm impressed that are any old Chevy trucks over there. That truck here would be around $1200-1500. I'm not too fond of the old diesels. It looks weird on the leaf springs, there is a bunch of them and they look bent (may be the pic). I'm going to guess and say you could have one shipped from the US for $4-5000. My point is you would be far better off finding a decent one here and having it shipped to you. Maybe some folks here could help find one for you.

09-12-2011, 04:59 PM	#8
Karnage Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: California USA Posts: 64	Re: Chevrolet Silverado RUSSIA need help Hey there, it's maga, I decided to do a name change. I did contact an admin to let them know I've seen a handful of nice trucks like mine in the video I posted earlier for cheaper than $5,000usd. I doubt any of them would be willing to sell their trucks over the internet tho. Most owners of good quality older vehicles like to meet the person they are selling their vehicle to. If I ever sell mine, I know I'd like to know who will be driving it. Last edited by Karnage; 09-12-2011 at 05:06 PM.

09-12-2011, 05:48 PM	#10
78 Chevyrado Account Suspended Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Unnapreciative, Trollville Posts: 2,079	Re: Chevrolet Silverado RUSSIA need help Is that $5,000 USD? seems high... I know they're rare there, but I'm trying to think of rare cars in the US and $5k seems high for one that needs total restoration and is rusty. depends on how much you think its worth. how many of these trucks have you even seen before? that will help you decide how much you want it and how rare it is.

09-12-2011, 09:27 PM	#11
irishman999 Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Reno Ne-VAH-da Posts: 594	Re: Chevrolet Silverado RUSSIA need help I dont know how much fuel costs in Russia but just thought I would mention the 6.2 Diesel gets incredible mileage and has decent power. Before getting serious with it check out the motor, its really easy to ruin a 6.2 with starting fluid. Gm made a crap glow plug controller that would fail and alot of times led to starting fluid causing serious damage. Have you seen it run yet?

09-13-2011, 03:58 AM	#17
Karnage Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: California USA Posts: 64	Re: Chevrolet Silverado RUSSIA need help I've got a solution that can fix all of this... Move to America. lol

09-13-2011, 04:07 AM	#18
Katsura Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Minsk, Belarus Posts: 12	Re: Chevrolet Silverado RUSSIA need help Karange,

09-13-2011, 04:25 AM	#19
Katsura Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Minsk, Belarus Posts: 12	Re: Chevrolet Silverado RUSSIA need help Some more rusty pics Attached Images

09-13-2011, 07:30 AM	#20
motornut 78K & 79C Jimmys Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ottawa Ont CANADA Posts: 7,901	Re: Chevrolet Silverado RUSSIA need help you may wana check the cab mounts to the frame,to see how it is there follow the body line down the drivers side, it looks to drop some before the bed __________________ John 1978 GMCJimmy4X4-350/203 1979 GMCJimmy4X2-305/350 Last edited by motornut; 09-13-2011 at 07:35 AM.

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thirdstreettito Resident of Here Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wesley Chapel, FL, USA Posts: 7,716	Re: Chevrolet Silverado RUSSIA need help Katsure, if I were you I would buy a nice truck from the US and have it imported/shipped to Belarus. __________________ ~Bradley~ 2004 Black GTO LS2/T56 too much to list Miss having a truck

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Pyrotechnic Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 3,930	Re: Chevrolet Silverado RUSSIA need help That's crazy. It's cheaper to move a person across the world than it is to move a truck. Are the customs/taxes bad on parts too? __________________ 1977 GMC Sierra Grande



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09-13-2011, 03:00 PM	#24
Katsura Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Minsk, Belarus Posts: 12	Re: Chevrolet Silverado RUSSIA need help Only for the car. And it's depend on engine volume and manufacturing year. For parts it's only 30% of common price tax. Yes, it's crazy. But we live in this reality. Posted via Mobile Device

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cjlinkster Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Atlanta ga Posts: 150	Re: Chevrolet Silverado RUSSIA need help This thread has sparked my interest... Katsura, what kind of 1/2 or 3/4 ton trucks do you guys have over there? Post us a picture of what they look like. Do you ever see any Unimogs? For $5000, I would want to find a truck in nicer shape. However you maybe able to haggle the seller down to $4000? So you are from Belarus, do you happen to work at the tractor factory there? It's supposed to be the largest tractor factory in the world. __________________ 1984 C20, 454, 4 speed named "Gold Member"

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