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**Richardwa** · 10-13-2011, 07:41 PM

Went to one of the local wrecking yards yesterday looking for parts for my 71 GMC. Didn't find much in the line of parts but this did follow me home: 71 GMC, 350/th350, don't know about the engine or trans yet although it does turn over.

It has an aftermarket electronic ignition that I need info on, it has a box on the fender that says Hays. ( see pics)

The only things I saw missing (so far) are power steering pump, brackets and hoses, the tailgate ashtray and the keys.

I think I got a pretty good deal at $750.00, if I'm lucky it may even run!

str8axle55 · 10-13-2011, 07:46 PM

Nice truck, I love it when cool stuff follows you home.

rsavage · 10-13-2011, 07:54 PM

If it is solid as it looks in the photos, it was a good deal. Congrats.

Rochlow · 10-13-2011, 08:00 PM

Nice find. There was a guy that was sell a running 69 for the price of scrap up here yesterday. Said if it didnt sell it was going to the crusher today.
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**Richardwa** · 10-13-2011, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rsavage

If it is solid as it looks in the photos, it was a good deal. Congrats.

No rust in the cab at all, some minor rust in the right fender and a little surface rust here and there

Jerry Jones · 10-13-2011, 08:49 PM

That is great! NICE!

sjarrett71 · 10-13-2011, 08:55 PM

The Hays box is more than likely an electronic trailer brake controller.

Congrats on the find! It looks solid!!

hugger6933 · 10-13-2011, 09:02 PM

All is good when they follow you home, thing turn bad when they pass you on the way home!!!! real nice find there good luck and have some fun

71swb4x4 · 10-13-2011, 09:12 PM

The Hays box is ignition. Here is an old Stinger catalog: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2852...10270329bSZNYg

From what I have gathered Bill Hays sold his clutch business and started this electronic ignition company. He had to drop the Hays name right away because of his previous sales contract, so your Hays box is probably an early model. You will notice the boxes on the catalog look the same except they say Stinger rather than Hays.

**LockDoc** · 10-13-2011, 11:04 PM

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There are two ways you can remedy the no keys situation. For a temp fix you can find an ignition switch that has the keys, unplug the connector from the back of the existing switch and plug the replacement one in and let it hang down under the dash. For a more permanent fix take the passengers door lock out and there should be a code number stamped on it (see pic below for sample) If there is and you take it to a full service locksmith he can cut you a key from the code number and it should fit the ignition. This only applies if none of the locks have been changed. Worth a try.

LockDoc

OARNGESI · 10-14-2011, 12:58 AM

Not a bad buy that truck would bring around 600 if you crush it you cant go wrong

Camaro_nut2001 · 10-14-2011, 12:13 PM

Very nice score!! I wish the yards around here would sell complete vehicles.

lil hoodlum · 10-14-2011, 08:10 PM

I'm not sure about the engine being from a 1971 or at least the heads. Cylinder heads before 1969 did not come with accesory holes in them.

But I agree with everyone else, a couple of nice finds. I would love to have a new project like that 1971 GMC to work with.

Congrats!

Keith

bollybib · 10-14-2011, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by str8axle55

Nice truck, I love it when cool stuff follows you home.

Well said.

**Richardwa** · 10-14-2011, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lil hoodlum

I'm not sure about the engine being from a 1971 or at least the heads. Cylinder heads before 1969 did not come with accesory holes in them.

But I agree with everyone else, a couple of nice finds. I would love to have a new project like that 1971 GMC to work with.

Congrats!

Keith

The blue valve covers are what I noticed, also that they are on backwards, also the thermostat housing has a sending unit in it

**Richardwa** · 10-14-2011, 10:39 PM

Well heres an update on the truck:

Battery had about 50% charge, pulled the plug off back of ignition switch and used a couple of jumper wires.

Engine started and ran rough, #1 and 6 plug wires were reversed, fixed that after a little backfire that blew a hole in the exhaust pipe.

Running smoother now, no oil smoke

Burning really rich, no black smoke but can smell fuel, tried adjusting carb, didn't help much

ran it for a couple hours while messing with it, good oil pressure, no over heating or anything too bad.

The worst thing on the truck I found is no reverse, trans goes into forward gear fine and doesn't seem to slip, but nothing in reverse

The really bad thing is now my wife thinks I should sell my 92 GMC!

I tried telling Her I have more into the running gear and wheels then I could get for it but She doesn't seem to sympathetic.........

lil hoodlum · 10-14-2011, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Richardwa

The worst thing on the truck I found is no reverse, trans goes into forward gear fine and doesn't seem to slip, but nothing in reverse

The really bad thing is now my wife thinks I should sell my 92 GMC!

I tried telling Her I have more into the running gear and wheels then I could get for it but She doesn't seem to sympathetic.........

Hey man! That's great you got the motor running! I've got a simple fix for the reverse not working. Never park it in front of something again!!!

Use the pull through method.

But yeah, you might want to hold off on selling your 92 GMC for a little while.

Again congrats on your new project!

Keith

oldblue1968chevy · 10-14-2011, 11:16 PM

For the fuel issue-adj floats to spec (if u need help i find instructions/specs)

Still not right after that check/regulate your fuel pressure OR buy the edelbrock $100 fuel pump

Stock pump will put too much out and push the needle/seat apart and make it flood.

Start with float level/drop/clean carb then test fuel pressure with a good guage

rsavage · 10-14-2011, 11:58 PM

By the look of the casting mark on the front of them I think the heads are 58 and up 283 power pack heads. 1.72 intake, 1.5 exhaust with 59 cc chambers. Those heads were also used on 57-60 FI engines.

**FleetsidePaul** · 10-15-2011, 12:55 AM

Nice score!

**Richardwa** · 10-15-2011, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldblue1968chevy

For the fuel issue-adj floats to spec (if u need help i find instructions/specs)

Still not right after that check/regulate your fuel pressure OR buy the edelbrock $100 fuel pump

Stock pump will put too much out and push the needle/seat apart and make it flood.

Start with float level/drop/clean carb then test fuel pressure with a good guage

Thanks for that info, I will give it a try. If you could find the info that would help a lot, (never been into one of these carbs before).

If all else fails I have a double pumper on a wore out 305 around here somewhere.....might be a little too much carb though

Rob H. · 10-15-2011, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Richardwa

The worst thing on the truck I found is no reverse, trans goes into forward gear fine and doesn't seem to slip, but nothing in reverse

Well now if we hooked your truck and my 67 together we'd be fine, mine won't go in forward gears, but does great in reverse!

10-13-2011, 07:46 PM	#2
str8axle55 Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Weymouth Ma Posts: 489	Re: Junkyard find Nice truck, I love it when cool stuff follows you home. __________________ 03 GMC Yukon XL 2500 Quadrasteer, wife`s DD 84 Chevy K30 CC SRW 55 Chevy 210 2dr post

10-13-2011, 07:54 PM	#3
rsavage Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Alden NY Posts: 2,705	Re: Junkyard find If it is solid as it looks in the photos, it was a good deal. Congrats. __________________ 1961 C1 Corvette 1959 El Camino 350 TPI, 9" 4 w disc 69 Blazer K5 - sold July '20 2021 Durango RT 5.7

10-13-2011, 08:00 PM	#4
Rochlow Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: St. Albans, Vt Posts: 2,520	Re: Junkyard find Nice find. There was a guy that was sell a running 69 for the price of scrap up here yesterday. Said if it didnt sell it was going to the crusher today. Posted via Mobile Device

10-13-2011, 08:49 PM	#6
Jerry Jones Happy Camper Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Northern California Posts: 8,408	Re: Junkyard find That is great! NICE! __________________ RIP El Jay! Love you brother!

10-13-2011, 08:55 PM	#7
sjarrett71 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rolla, MO Posts: 2,463	Re: Junkyard find The Hays box is more than likely an electronic trailer brake controller. Congrats on the find! It looks solid!! __________________ -Scott-

10-13-2011, 07:41 PM	#1
Richardwa Active Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Selah Wa Posts: 153	Junkyard find Went to one of the local wrecking yards yesterday looking for parts for my 71 GMC. Didn't find much in the line of parts but this did follow me home: 71 GMC, 350/th350, don't know about the engine or trans yet although it does turn over. It has an aftermarket electronic ignition that I need info on, it has a box on the fender that says Hays. ( see pics) The only things I saw missing (so far) are power steering pump, brackets and hoses, the tailgate ashtray and the keys. I think I got a pretty good deal at $750.00, if I'm lucky it may even run!

10-13-2011, 09:02 PM	#8
hugger6933 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Marianna Arkansas Posts: 7,279	Re: Junkyard find All is good when they follow you home, thing turn bad when they pass you on the way home!!!! real nice find there good luck and have some fun

10-13-2011, 09:12 PM	#9
71swb4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 10,497	Re: Junkyard find The Hays box is ignition. Here is an old Stinger catalog: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2852...10270329bSZNYg From what I have gathered Bill Hays sold his clutch business and started this electronic ignition company. He had to drop the Hays name right away because of his previous sales contract, so your Hays box is probably an early model. You will notice the boxes on the catalog look the same except they say Stinger rather than Hays. __________________ Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

10-13-2011, 11:04 PM	#10
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,633	Re: Junkyard find - There are two ways you can remedy the no keys situation. For a temp fix you can find an ignition switch that has the keys, unplug the connector from the back of the existing switch and plug the replacement one in and let it hang down under the dash. For a more permanent fix take the passengers door lock out and there should be a code number stamped on it (see pic below for sample) If there is and you take it to a full service locksmith he can cut you a key from the code number and it should fit the ignition. This only applies if none of the locks have been changed. Worth a try. LockDoc Attached Images __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

10-14-2011, 12:58 AM	#11
OARNGESI Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: CASA GRANDE AZ Posts: 4,276	Re: Junkyard find Not a bad buy that truck would bring around 600 if you crush it you cant go wrong __________________ 70 SWB STEPSIDE 70 BLAZER 09 challenger

10-14-2011, 12:13 PM	#12
Camaro_nut2001 Chevy Lover Till The End. Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Mascot TN. Posts: 795	Re: Junkyard find Very nice score!! I wish the yards around here would sell complete vehicles. __________________ 1969 Chevy SWB Big Block - Under the knife as of 12/26/2011 1989 Chevy Silverado, 4X4 - Daily Driver 1996 Chevy Suburban K1500 - 4-Wheeler, Campin Truck 1968 Chevrolet Impala Sport Coupe - 327/350hp, TH400, all original. Members I've met: BamaBaxter, My Build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=500359

10-14-2011, 08:10 PM	#13
lil hoodlum Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Denton, Texas Posts: 1,729	Re: Junkyard find I'm not sure about the engine being from a 1971 or at least the heads. Cylinder heads before 1969 did not come with accesory holes in them. But I agree with everyone else, a couple of nice finds. I would love to have a new project like that 1971 GMC to work with. Congrats! Keith

10-14-2011, 10:39 PM	#16
Richardwa Active Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Selah Wa Posts: 153	Re: Junkyard find Well heres an update on the truck: Battery had about 50% charge, pulled the plug off back of ignition switch and used a couple of jumper wires. Engine started and ran rough, #1 and 6 plug wires were reversed, fixed that after a little backfire that blew a hole in the exhaust pipe. Running smoother now, no oil smoke Burning really rich, no black smoke but can smell fuel, tried adjusting carb, didn't help much ran it for a couple hours while messing with it, good oil pressure, no over heating or anything too bad. The worst thing on the truck I found is no reverse, trans goes into forward gear fine and doesn't seem to slip, but nothing in reverse The really bad thing is now my wife thinks I should sell my 92 GMC! I tried telling Her I have more into the running gear and wheels then I could get for it but She doesn't seem to sympathetic.........

10-14-2011, 11:16 PM	#18
oldblue1968chevy Grandpa in the rustmobile... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spokane WA/Viola TN Posts: 11,422	Re: Junkyard find For the fuel issue-adj floats to spec (if u need help i find instructions/specs) Still not right after that check/regulate your fuel pressure OR buy the edelbrock $100 fuel pump Stock pump will put too much out and push the needle/seat apart and make it flood. Start with float level/drop/clean carb then test fuel pressure with a good guage __________________ John Goose-1968 C10 355,9.32-1CR, Vortec Heads ,262 voodoo, 3.73:1 3OTT (HS ride/beater/farm truck) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=317684 Grams 53-1953 Chevrolet Belair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post4327784 1969 Chevy C10 Shortbed 4.5/6?" Frame off resto http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548136 1999 Toyota Tacoma 4x4

10-14-2011, 11:58 PM	#19
rsavage Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Alden NY Posts: 2,705	Re: Junkyard find By the look of the casting mark on the front of them I think the heads are 58 and up 283 power pack heads. 1.72 intake, 1.5 exhaust with 59 cc chambers. Those heads were also used on 57-60 FI engines. __________________ 1961 C1 Corvette 1959 El Camino 350 TPI, 9" 4 w disc 69 Blazer K5 - sold July '20 2021 Durango RT 5.7



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10-15-2011, 12:55 AM	#20
FleetsidePaul R.I.P. E.S.L.L. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kernville CA./ Lake Isabella CA. Posts: 11,419	Re: Junkyard find Nice score! __________________ 1971 Custom C/20 1970 CST 20 1970 C/30 Flatbed 1983 C/30 Dually 2015 Corvette Z51 2021 Corvette Z51 1991 Cadillac Hearse 1982 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz 2000 Porsche Boxster S 2020 Jeep Gladiator 1973 VW Thing 1973 Plymouth Satellite wagon 1963 Baja Bug 1959 Bug Dune Buggy 1970 Baja Bug 1987 Jaguar XJ 350. R.I.P. El Jay R.I.P Jessie. R.I.P Grumpy. Every day is a gift from God.

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