Joining the 1 ton C30 club - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

budnikguy · 11-02-2011, 04:42 PM

Finally pulled the trigger on a 1972 Cheyenne C30 1 ton truck...former motorhome that currently has a smaller flatbed on it, but, looking to find a longer 12-16' flatbed for it. I plan on making this the true 67-72 picker for me and really wanting to drop it down a bit. Is their drop spindles? What about the rear leaf springs, is their a drop shackle for 1 ton specific? Also, want to run newer 16" dually steel wheels..will these bolt on without mods? The truck has the original 402 with turbo 400, aftermarket air (no compressor), had buckets (but gone), and really clean door panels, dash pad, and visors. These pics are at the PO's home...will get more when I get it home..

Vintage Windmills · 11-02-2011, 05:00 PM

congrats should make a fine hauler! probably a little scarcer to find a one ton in Cheyenne trim. Bucket seats still there?

**slomotion** · 11-02-2011, 05:26 PM

Good find! In that pic of the right front wheel, it looks like that may have been an inner rear for a while. It appears that you have the 9/16 lug, and the two-piece lug nut. If this is true, the newer style wheels will fit right up. These wheels are hub-centered, and do not use tapered lug nuts. Pull one of the lug nuts, and see if the washer spins freely, if it does, you have the later style.
As for the spindle and shackle questions, someone will jump in here shortly that can answer those ....

budnikguy · 11-02-2011, 05:32 PM

No darn it....

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Originally Posted by Vintage Windmills

congrats should make a fine hauler! probably a little scarcer to find a one ton in Cheyenne trim. Bucket seats still there?

budnikguy · 11-02-2011, 05:34 PM

Thanks a ton...no pun intended...will check when she gets home. And btw, the rear has a single wheel on it as per the PO

Adam

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Originally Posted by slomotion

Good find! In that pic of the right front wheel, it looks like that may have been an inner rear for a while. It appears that you have the 9/16 lug, and the two-piece lug nut. If this is true, the newer style wheels will fit right up. These wheels are hub-centered, and do not use tapered lug nuts. Pull one of the lug nuts, and see if the washer spins freely, if it does, you have the later style.
As for the spindle and shackle questions, someone will jump in here shortly that can answer those ....

*project 67 sub* · 11-02-2011, 05:45 PM

sweet.... so you gonna put a 67-68 clip on it????

budnikguy · 11-02-2011, 05:56 PM

......maybe..love the sloped nose....will have to stick around to find out

lol

*project 67 sub* · 11-02-2011, 06:07 PM

i vote for the older (67-68) front clip

budnikguy · 11-02-2011, 06:09 PM

do have one laying around....as you know! This front clip is clean though...NO RUST!! and has auxiliary battery tray too

*project 67 sub* · 11-02-2011, 06:17 PM

oh of course i know haha, heck i would rather have a 67-68 clip in ok shape than the later clip, but at least it is the better looking of the later clip (71-72, and not 69-70

)

**special-K** · 11-03-2011, 08:01 AM

That's a great find...lots of potential there. I don't see why you couldn't use drop spring mounts and/or drop shackles from any other leaf spring GM. Not sure about the spindles,but I believe there are C/20 drop spindles now and they may just work since the wheels use adapters/spacers. I guess it all depends on differences in the hub/rotor parts,if there are any.That's a bridge I've never crossed.
I think later clips look just fine. With an early clip it can't be a Cheyenne/30 any more. Why mess with a good thing. I like both but a bigger truck looks best with a more stout from IMO.

Tx Firefighter · 11-03-2011, 08:13 AM

The easy route for drop spindles is to swap to 73-87 spindles. A couple of manufacturers make 3 inch drop spindles for 73-87 C30 trucks.

**RenoKeene** · 11-03-2011, 11:22 AM

A big block C-30 Cheyenne with buckets...thats a pretty rare beast I think.
Congrats! Another one saved from the scrapper.

longhorn70gmc · 11-03-2011, 01:43 PM

Great job, she looks nice. We had one of these that was really nice and Blue for sale about a month ago for 2500. It had a sweet flatbed on it. It was the local Milk delivery people whom were selling it. It was just like yours. Anyway, good to see you get you one. I am awaiting more pictures.
R/

budnikguy · 11-03-2011, 02:25 PM

Would the 73-87 up 1 ton spindles be a straight swap? Thanks for the input..

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Originally Posted by Tx Firefighter

The easy route for drop spindles is to swap to 73-87 spindles. A couple of manufacturers make 3 inch drop spindles for 73-87 C30 trucks.

budnikguy · 11-03-2011, 02:37 PM

Thanks man, went a different direction than a longhorn or sierra grande, sorry...just sort of happened

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Originally Posted by longhorn70gmc

Great job, she looks nice. We had one of these that was really nice and Blue for sale about a month ago for 2500. It had a sweet flatbed on it. It was the local Milk delivery people whom were selling it. It was just like yours. Anyway, good to see you get you one. I am awaiting more pictures.
R/

**leddzepp** · 11-03-2011, 02:38 PM

So how many projects are you up to now?

budnikguy · 11-03-2011, 02:44 PM

few interior pics...

budnikguy · 11-03-2011, 02:46 PM

damn...i am on my 2nd hand.....and counting still. I need to go to craigslist anonymous! These trucks just keep calling my name.....

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Originally Posted by leddzepp

So how many projects are you up to now?

**leddzepp** · 11-03-2011, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by budnikguy

damn...i am on my 2nd hand.....and counting still. I need to go to craigslist anonymous! These trucks just keep calling my name.....

I am right there next to you....it's hard to pass up a good deal when there are so many to be had!

budnikguy · 11-03-2011, 03:00 PM

Has to be a way to turn this into a business...right?! Or is that just the entrepreneur in my trying to break out?? Could not get any better than doing something you love to do and call it your job!!

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Originally Posted by leddzepp

I am right there next to you....it's hard to pass up a good deal when there are so many to be had!

budnikguy · 11-04-2011, 11:43 PM

any more help with the suspension questions I posed???

Tx Firefighter · 11-05-2011, 06:20 AM

I went to O Reilly Auto Parts website and researched the fitment of C30 spindles.

I looked up a 71 model C30, a 72 C30 and an 80 C30 and they all show to use the same K6129T lower ball joint, K6122 upper ball joint, and ES409RT tie rod end.

I know my half tons real well and only moderately well on my 1 tons. It's very common to put later model spindles on half tons but you have to change one of the ball joints and the tie rod ends. It looks like the 1 tons you don't have to do that.

**special-K** · 11-05-2011, 07:03 AM

Tx brought up a good way to go that slipped my mind at the time. I always wondered why not swap newer front end parts. I see a lot of newer dual wheel 30s lowered,so they must make drop spindles. Look into the parts compatibility,but one thing you can always do is swap the entire assembly. But,if '80s use the same tie rods,there's your drop spindles. Check newer and see what happens.

11-02-2011, 04:42 PM	#1
budnikguy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 4,316	Joining the 1 ton C30 club Finally pulled the trigger on a 1972 Cheyenne C30 1 ton truck...former motorhome that currently has a smaller flatbed on it, but, looking to find a longer 12-16' flatbed for it. I plan on making this the true 67-72 picker for me and really wanting to drop it down a bit. Is their drop spindles? What about the rear leaf springs, is their a drop shackle for 1 ton specific? Also, want to run newer 16" dually steel wheels..will these bolt on without mods? The truck has the original 402 with turbo 400, aftermarket air (no compressor), had buckets (but gone), and really clean door panels, dash pad, and visors. These pics are at the PO's home...will get more when I get it home..

11-02-2011, 05:00 PM	#2
Vintage Windmills Vintage 4x4s Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Prior Lake, MN Posts: 4,305	Re: Joining the 1 ton C30 club congrats should make a fine hauler! probably a little scarcer to find a one ton in Cheyenne trim. Bucket seats still there? __________________ 67 GMC K1500 Custom- 305V6 SM420, PTO, Ram Assist, yellow (the outcast) (project period correct upgrades) 67 GMC C2500 351V6 TH400, AC, PS, PB (can't decide what to do with. Update, decided to keep and will restore ) 86 CHV K30 502 th400, apple red NEW 71 CHV K20 350 SM465, ochre (saved work truck) 71 CHV K20 292 SM465, white, tach, PTO, (future project) 72 CHV K20 350 350th, medium blue (project stocker) 01 CHV K2500hd crew, indigo blue ^3 dont run and the others don't see winter either '86 K30 Cummins "Fireside" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=649649 '71 K20 "get driveable" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=590642 '72 K20 Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=493477&page=6

11-02-2011, 05:26 PM	#3
slomotion Old Duffer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maine Posts: 1,821	Re: Joining the 1 ton C30 club Good find! In that pic of the right front wheel, it looks like that may have been an inner rear for a while. It appears that you have the 9/16 lug, and the two-piece lug nut. If this is true, the newer style wheels will fit right up. These wheels are hub-centered, and do not use tapered lug nuts. Pull one of the lug nuts, and see if the washer spins freely, if it does, you have the later style. As for the spindle and shackle questions, someone will jump in here shortly that can answer those .... __________________ '68 Short C20 Flatbed Dually w/ 292 4bbl, Langdon cast headers, and WC T5 trans. '81 G10 Shorty Van "Good judgement comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgement." Will Rogers "Under promise, then over achieve."

11-02-2011, 05:45 PM	#6
project 67 sub Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: san bernardino ca. everywhere Posts: 3,938	Re: Joining the 1 ton C30 club sweet.... so you gonna put a 67-68 clip on it????

11-02-2011, 05:56 PM	#7
budnikguy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 4,316	Re: Joining the 1 ton C30 club ......maybe..love the sloped nose....will have to stick around to find out lol

11-02-2011, 06:07 PM	#8
project 67 sub Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: san bernardino ca. everywhere Posts: 3,938	Re: Joining the 1 ton C30 club i vote for the older (67-68) front clip

11-02-2011, 06:09 PM	#9
budnikguy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 4,316	Re: Joining the 1 ton C30 club do have one laying around....as you know! This front clip is clean though...NO RUST!! and has auxiliary battery tray too

11-02-2011, 06:17 PM	#10
project 67 sub Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: san bernardino ca. everywhere Posts: 3,938	Re: Joining the 1 ton C30 club oh of course i know haha, heck i would rather have a 67-68 clip in ok shape than the later clip, but at least it is the better looking of the later clip (71-72, and not 69-70 )

11-03-2011, 08:01 AM	#11
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,862	Re: Joining the 1 ton C30 club That's a great find...lots of potential there. I don't see why you couldn't use drop spring mounts and/or drop shackles from any other leaf spring GM. Not sure about the spindles,but I believe there are C/20 drop spindles now and they may just work since the wheels use adapters/spacers. I guess it all depends on differences in the hub/rotor parts,if there are any.That's a bridge I've never crossed. I think later clips look just fine. With an early clip it can't be a Cheyenne/30 any more. Why mess with a good thing. I like both but a bigger truck looks best with a more stout from IMO. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

11-03-2011, 08:13 AM	#12
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Re: Joining the 1 ton C30 club The easy route for drop spindles is to swap to 73-87 spindles. A couple of manufacturers make 3 inch drop spindles for 73-87 C30 trucks. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin

11-03-2011, 11:22 AM	#13
RenoKeene Florida Edition Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Fruitland Park, FL Posts: 4,021	Re: Joining the 1 ton C30 club A big block C-30 Cheyenne with buckets...thats a pretty rare beast I think. Congrats! Another one saved from the scrapper. __________________ 70 GMC Short Stepside "Rose"-An American Beauty: Factory 402/TH400, AM/FM, AC, Tilt, Tach, Buckets, Posi, PS, PB, 3-5 Drop, Complete Resto-Rod 67 C-20 Slant Back Wrecker "Mad Max" 67 C-10 Ratrod "Step-N-Wolf" 71 Serro Scotty Sportsman camper "Scotty" 97 LT1 Z28 "The Hornet" Link to more pics of "Rose" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...p?albumid=1684 Check out my "Cheap Tricks" thread and add to it if you can, lots of good info there. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=489394

11-03-2011, 01:43 PM	#14
longhorn70gmc Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Ridgecrest. CA, USA Posts: 1,715	Re: Joining the 1 ton C30 club Great job, she looks nice. We had one of these that was really nice and Blue for sale about a month ago for 2500. It had a sweet flatbed on it. It was the local Milk delivery people whom were selling it. It was just like yours. Anyway, good to see you get you one. I am awaiting more pictures. R/ __________________ Billy 1970 GMC Sierra Grande 402/TH400 (Longhorn)14 years and counting rebuild! 1975 (Build) Chevrolet SWB 4X4 350 SB Lifted 6 inches 1970 Ford F250 Ranger 390 BB 2010 Ford Super Duty F250 XLT W/4 inch lift kit and Pro Comp Tires Hub Cap Freak! *I need another truck like I need another hole in the head!* I'M IN THE MARKET...AS IT WERE!

11-03-2011, 02:38 PM	#17
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 19,995	Re: Joining the 1 ton C30 club So how many projects are you up to now? __________________ 1972 C/10 Cheyenne Super SWB. Restored, loaded, slammed. 1968 C/10 50th Anniversary LWB. Unrestored, stock, daily driver/work truck. RIP ElJay RIP 67ChevyRedneck RIP Grumpy Old Man

11-03-2011, 02:44 PM	#18
budnikguy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 4,316	Re: Joining the 1 ton C30 club few interior pics...

11-04-2011, 11:43 PM	#22
budnikguy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 4,316	Re: Joining the 1 ton C30 club any more help with the suspension questions I posed???



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11-05-2011, 06:20 AM	#23
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Re: Joining the 1 ton C30 club I went to O Reilly Auto Parts website and researched the fitment of C30 spindles. I looked up a 71 model C30, a 72 C30 and an 80 C30 and they all show to use the same K6129T lower ball joint, K6122 upper ball joint, and ES409RT tie rod end. I know my half tons real well and only moderately well on my 1 tons. It's very common to put later model spindles on half tons but you have to change one of the ball joints and the tie rod ends. It looks like the 1 tons you don't have to do that. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin

11-05-2011, 07:03 AM	#24
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,862	Re: Joining the 1 ton C30 club Tx brought up a good way to go that slipped my mind at the time. I always wondered why not swap newer front end parts. I see a lot of newer dual wheel 30s lowered,so they must make drop spindles. Look into the parts compatibility,but one thing you can always do is swap the entire assembly. But,if '80s use the same tie rods,there's your drop spindles. Check newer and see what happens. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

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