HID conversion

[Dillon79scotts]

I just recently bought a set of 7" crystal clear euro headlights for my 79 chevy 4x4.

it comes with the blue shade H4 bulbs...but
i was wanting to upgrade there, and do a HID conversion
problem is i have never done a conversion, so i dont know what i need to get.

If anyone can help me with this it would be great. I want bright, but where i still have a high/low beam for street legal.

Im shopping off ebay BTW so thats where i will be looking

[875.3CHEVY]

look up bi-xenon h4 for the hi/los and xenon h4 for the highs

[sumran]

Prepare to be covered in misinformation and lies. Much of what is marketed as HID is not. The magic of a good HID lighting system is a reflector that is precisely designed for a particular HID source. It needs to capable of withstanding very high heat and positon the arc at the exact point that focuses the beam properly. A reflector / refractor system that was designed for an H4 lamp will never get the full potential from an HID source because it was not designed for it.

Any real HID system will have a ballast. There are some kits that are designed to replicate an H4 lamp. They are expensive and do not work as well as a OEM HID system. Lamp life is not consistant because aftermarket manufacturers are more focused on cost than quality. A vehicle that has a single headlight that creates low and high beams is especially difficult as the position of the HID source needs to be altered for high beam operation.

If you go to the trouble and expense to modify your H4 system to a real HID setup, you will discover that it not that much different from a high quality halogen H4 lamp.

There may be a manufacturer that has designed a complete HID system for our vehicles but I don't know of it. If such a thing existed it would include the full reflector /projector assembly. Big bucks.

[chevy-fun]

When you bought the headlights did they come with the pigtail that goes from the h4 bulb to original connector. when I bought my euro lens from LMC they came with the pigtail. An all I had to buy was there Heavy Duty Headlights Harness $30 then whatever hid system I wanted. Paid $50 for my hid, there cheap ones to expensive $45-$300. You can find hid kits on Craigslist for 45-75. A lot say don't buy the cheap Chinese ones everyone sells but had no trouble wit mine 5yrs n still good an another set 3yrs. An I would go with the 6000k(bright white hint of blue) or 8000k(more bluish)
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[Dillon79scotts]

i didnt get any pig tails that i know of. from the picture it looks like the h4 bulb plugs right in to the stock harness.

i dont have a heavy duty harness either.

I may not do the HID conversion. unless i can actually find it cheap. but i need to know what all it should include so i dont get shafted

[Dillon79scotts]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bixenon-HID-...item335528719e

Here is what i found.

[Dillon79scotts]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/150699585542...84.m1497.l2649

These are the euro headlights i bought also, there the H4 Bulb style like the HID kit i listed above.

but since these lens have the middle like reflcetor ( not sure what its called) would they still be bright? i already ordered the lens but am holding off on the HID till i find out

[Dillon79scotts]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/7-ROUND-PROJ...item2eb78a46b3

This is a better deal. comes with all. but is 6000k good enough? i dont want to get harassed by cops either

[motornut]

were the 08 jeep lights the ones somebody found out they fit good?

[Dillon79scotts]

pretty much any 7" round headlight should fit with the chevy

[motornut]

but i think these were hid?
I'll see if i can find it

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=318973&page=3

[Dillon79scotts]

i saw on that post that the projector style dont actually work... idk what i should do now.. because i want the projectors

[Dillon79scotts]

i need input on the projector style i posted above. If these dont work i wont order them

[stroker87]

I've installed 10 sets of after market HID's in family friends and my own cars

as for them not working as well as projector IMO is not so true you can see much more at night over stock headlights projectors in fact do not show as far, I will never run stock lights again, the HI/LO versions are a waist of money the hi beam is no where need as bright its just a small halogen bulb like a small fog light

I have installed them in 07 suburban, 99 f250, 05 gmc sierra, 06 gmc sierra, 03 lincoln town car, 02 trailblazer, 06 f150, 08 f150, 07 ford focus

dont by the cheapest set you fine they will not last the $50 to $60 set are better, you should run a relay setup about $15, best color is 5000k or 6000k any thing less is yellow any thing more is just to blue, after installing them you will want to aim your lights not to blind other drivers

Originally Posted by sumran

They are expensive and do not work as well as a OEM HID system. Lamp life is not consistant because aftermarket manufacturers are more focused on cost than quality.

so not true! I've installed them in my 07 suburban over 4 years now 80k miles a lot of night driving still going strong set coast a whooping $65 my sister has a Nissan with factory HID after 7 months she needed to get one buld replaced dealer wanted $185 just for the bulb I got her a replacement from a guy i deal with for $30 (two bulbs) installed two years ago no problems truth be told when the dealer "adds" hid's its the same kits I've used they want $500 for

[Dillon79scotts]

Originally Posted by stroker87

I've installed 10 sets of after market HID's in family friends and my own cars

as for them not working as well as projector IMO is not so true you can see much more at night over stock headlights projectors in fact do not show as far, I will never run stock lights again, the HI/LO versions are a waist of money the hi beam is no where need as bright its just a small halogen bulb like a small fog light

I have installed them in 07 suburban, 99 f250, 05 gmc sierra, 06 gmc sierra, 03 lincoln town car, 02 trailblazer, 06 f150, 08 f150, 07 ford focus

dont by the cheapest set you fine they will not last the $50 to $60 set are better, you should run a relay setup about $15, best color is 5000k or 6000k any thing less is yellow any thing more is just to blue, after installing them you will want to aim your lights not to blind other drivers



so not true! I've installed them in my 07 suburban over 4 years now 80k miles a lot of night driving still going strong set coast a whooping $65 my sister has a Nissan with factory HID after 7 months she needed to get one buld replaced dealer wanted $185 just for the bulb I got her a replacement from a guy i deal with for $30 (two bulbs) installed two years ago no problems truth be told when the dealer "adds" hid's its the same kits I've used they want $500 for

thanks for that input, i ended up just getting the 7" crystal clear lights, with the H4 hi/low bulbs. No HID.
I think if i go to HID it will be down the road because seeing everyones post made me jump all over the place.

i would have gone to the HID's if i got more positive feedback on them.

[stroker87]

Originally Posted by Dillon79scotts

thanks for that input, i ended up just getting the 7" crystal clear lights, with the H4 hi/low bulbs. No HID.
I think if i go to HID it will be down the road because seeing everyones post made me jump all over the place.

i would have gone to the HID's if i got more positive feedback on them.

this is some thing I have been doing for the last 4+ years, if you get the HID kit you'll be very pleased

here is a picture of my burban with them sorry the pic is not the best but you can get a feel for them

[Dillon79scotts]

yeah but this is on a 79 chevy, with the so called ebay cheapy "projector" style headlights. so i wanted to know if anyone knew if the projector even works.

[VH Coachworks]

Originally Posted by Dillon79scotts

yeah but this is on a 79 chevy, with the so called ebay cheapy "projector" style headlights. so i wanted to know if anyone knew if the projector even works.

Projectors are optimal for HID's, REAL projectors that is. The so called "projectors" that come in most aftermarket headlights are an absolute joke. 85% of the projectors in aftermarket headlights are nothing more then a convex piece of glass, that was not designed for HID's (or halogens for that matter).

Here is a picture of a REAL projector:



Now compare that to the "projector" inside the headlight housing you posted a link to:




Do you notice how different they are? You see a true projector is always a unit, which includes a glare shield within the assy (for the crisp cut off line) that is mounted on the bottom of the housing (projectors project light inversly, thus the shield is on the bottom) and a housing that the lens mounts within (seperate from the actual headlight housing. Also the lens of the projector is designed for HID's so it will focus the light properly and not cause glare for oncoming drivers.

As far as HID's go, stick with 4200K - 5000K, anything more then that is just to get the HID "look", anything higher steadily has a decrease in light output.

Take a read through this thread, there is a lot of information that I'm sure will also answer some of your questions! http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=491436

Hopefully that helps clear some confusion!

[andrewmp6]

Honestly a good h4 kit with the relays is good enough headlights for city driving.A hid is good when you live in the sticks but in the city your just blinding people on coming.

[motornut]

Originally Posted by motornut

but i think these were hid?
I'll see if i can find it

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=318973&page=3

i realize the projectors don't work
I was thinking the 1st post where Crawdadfox found out the newer Jeep lights fit
and were brighter

[stroker87]

Originally Posted by andrewmp6

Honestly a good h4 kit with the relays is good enough headlights for city driving.A hid is good when you live in the sticks but in the city your just blinding people on coming.

those are people to dont re-aim the head lights after they install the HID, stock can blind too if they are not aimed properly and yes they are blinding in those cases any headlights should be aimed correctly not to blind any one at night

I would not even bother with the "projector" just get a headlight that has the reflector in side that covers the bulb tip you'll get more light out put and wont be blinding on coming traffic

I've driven cars with projector headlights the light out put is not as good its just a different color when i'm next to a car the has them my headlights show further and wider I have mine aimed and no one ever gives me the hi-beam flash or any thing

guys dont get me wrong I do not like to get blinded or want to blind any one when done properly its worth to do the conversion to HID my mother who is almost 70 years old wants me to install them in her car cause the light out put and visibility is so much better at night

these old cars and trucks with "sealed beam" headlights suck in the first place thats why the use halogen bulbs now

[mischiefse7en]

i always preferred the 8000k, just for the blue/purple color

[stroker87]

Originally Posted by mischiefse7en

i always preferred the 8000k, just for the blue/purple color

8000k is "ok" on a white or black car but any other color car I think the 5000k to 6000k is the best since it is closer to the factory 4300k

[muthstryker]

A car with REAL projectors create a cutoff point thus not blinding on coming traffic when an HID kit is installed. I would not ever run HIDs in a non projector headlight. There is a difference do not listen to what people tell you. You will blind this **** out of on coming traffic and get stopped by police. YOU DO NEED REAL PROJECTORS TO RUN REAL HID LIGHTS PEOPLE!!

[stroker87]

Originally Posted by muthstryker

A car with REAL projectors create a cutoff point thus not blinding on coming traffic when an HID kit is installed. I would not ever run HIDs in a non projector headlight. There is a difference do not listen to what people tell you. You will blind this **** out of on coming traffic and get stopped by police. YOU DO NEED REAL PROJECTORS TO RUN REAL HID LIGHTS PEOPLE!!

my lights to have a cut off I will take some pictures tonight, I have not been pulled over and no one who I've install the kits in has been pulled over for having them

like I said when the lights are AIMED correctly you dont blind any one, yes alot of guys are running them and blinding people that just either dont care or know any better plus the higher K temps have a lot of glare witch cause blinding (blue & purple hue) headlights that have the reflector in side are good for the conversion headlights


if you have not DONE any conversions you should not tell people they cant do it......the dealer I bought my suburban from does these conversions also but charge $500+ to have them installed in my factory NON PROJECTOR HEADLIGHTS

this headlight will blind on coming traffic


this one when AIMED will not