Bagged trucks with NO dropmember or Z'd frame

[muthstryker]

Hey guys,

Im looking for some pictures of trucks that were just bagged up front without a drop member or a Z'd frame. I want to see how low I can get the truck down with out doing that. Im not going to be able to start my build right away but want to start driving it. And wouldn't mind throwing in some bags up front just so I can go over some speed bumps.

[Pro Performance]

Hey Man...

Here is a picture of my truck with a stock crossmember and bagged. I have aftermarket Choppin Block arms, which is equal to cupping your stock arms. But it will lay the crossmember on the ground. Make sure to change out your header to mid length, cause full length will hit first.

In the rear, it is all under the bed setup. I will try and take more pictures so you get a better idea. The fender isn't fully on because I haven't cut it to clearance for tires yet.

[muthstryker]

How tall are your tires? Im trying to see how much of my 22s I would be able to tuck.

Also very interested in the under bed set up, There is a truck they did a set up like that on in Street Trucks I have the magazine and im trying to find it.

One last question, How far off the ground in your pinch weld?

[Pro Performance]

The ones on there now are about 28.8" all around. The wheels / tires I am getting from Jon @ Driverz will be 27" up front and 28.6" in the rear.

Right now I have leafs in the back, but I will be switching to 4-link soon. Should have just done it from the start. The only thing, is the axle center section will hit the bed floor. So, if I were to notch (which I won't), I would get about an inch more drop. But, with the way it sits, I don't need to go lower in the rear, cause the front won't go any more to match.

I think my pinch weld is 3-4" off the ground. I will re-measure tonight when I get home.

[muthstryker]

Cool thanks, Ya im starting to wonder about a basic bag set up to still have a usable bed but still be low enough to tuck my wheels. I've thought about the ridetech 4 link but I dont think it would be low enough for my in the rear.

[Pro Performance]

I totally hear ya.... I would look at the KP 4-link, or if you can fab something yourself, then a universal kit can maybe save you a couple bucks.

THe nice thing about the Ridetech, is it has all the bag mount set and determined, where as the KP or most other setup, you would have to weld on axle bag brackets, etc..

[muthstryker]

Ya I am just not sure it will sit low enough in the rear. This is how I want my truck to sit.. I want the 22s tucked all around, I might have to do a small notch to get it there.

[mcboomport]

Originally Posted by Street3285

I totally hear ya.... I would look at the KP 4-link, or if you can fab something yourself, then a universal kit can maybe save you a couple bucks.

THe nice thing about the Ridetech, is it has all the bag mount set and determined, where as the KP or most other setup, you would have to weld on axle bag brackets, etc..

The KP setup does not require welding in axle bag brackets. They actually now offer complete bolt in notch.

[Pro Performance]

The bolt in KP 4 link does, as it does not include bag brackets anywhere, unless you go with the 6 link cantilever. At least that is how it shows on their site.

Matt,
That truck is sweet, and I think you can achieve close to that. I'll post up some stuff later, and give you the measurements so you can compare against your truck now.

[mcboomport]

Originally Posted by Street3285

The bolt in KP 4 link does, as it does not include bag brackets anywhere, unless you go with the 6 link cantilever. At least that is how it shows on their site.

Matt,
That truck is sweet, and I think you can achieve close to that. I'll post up some stuff later, and give you the measurements so you can compare against your truck now.

Yeah. You are correct. Sorry about that. haha

[muthstryker]

So I just put one of my 22s on the truck to see how far I need to drop it to get the back wheel to tuck the amount I want it to and it just needs to go down 2-3 more inches.

I know what I want to do to the front of the truck I just need to figure out the best set up for the rear.

Im wondering if an Air Over Leaf system from Ridetech and a 1" lowering block would get me there... I know with the AOL set up you can change the ride height I just dont know by how much.

[djunkie]

Originally Posted by muthstryker

Ya I am just not sure it will sit low enough in the rear. This is how I want my truck to sit.. I want the 22s tucked all around, I might have to do a small notch to get it there.

Sorry to change the subject but do you know what wheels those are? That's exactly what I want to my '87 but in 20".
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[Pro Performance]

Those are Billet Specialties Vintec Dish wheels.

I have the AOL setup right now on the rear. I had removed all but one leafs and left the overload in for support. I have the flip kit bracket with a 2" shackle. I don't know how it rides yet, but will soon.... I hope. I am a little concerned about axle hop, having the 383 motor.

It is definitely a cheaper way to go vs. purchasing a bolt on 4 link kit. It is about the same cost as a DIY 4 link kit though, by the time you get shackles, new leaf bushing, flip kit bracket, u-bolts.

When you checked to see how far it would have to drop to tuck the 22's where you wanted it, how far off the ground was the bed pinch weld?

[muthstryker]

The bed pinch weld is 9"s off the ground. I have the truck with the wheel on jacked to where it will ride with the tire on it.

I previously replaced the leaf bushings last year and have the drop shackles, flip kit.. It would cost me next to nothing to go with the AOL set up.

[muthstryker]

Originally Posted by djunkie

Sorry to change the subject but do you know what wheels those are? That's exactly what I want to my '87 but in 20".
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Here..

http://www.billetspecialties.com/ite...cid=47&pid=660

[Pro Performance]

Originally Posted by muthstryker

The bed pinch weld is 9"s off the ground. I have the truck with the wheel on jacked to where it will ride with the tire on it.

I previously replaced the leaf bushings last year and have the drop shackles, flip kit.. It would cost me next to nothing to go with the AOL set up.

That makes complete sense then, as you are basically there. I have been thinking about adding trac bars to keep axle wrap to a minimum, but won't know if they are needed until I drive it farther than the neighborhood.

This is the axle brackets I used:
http://www.kplinks.com/product.php?p...&cat=54&page=1

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by muthstryker

So I just put one of my 22s on the truck to see how far I need to drop it to get the back wheel to tuck the amount I want it to and it just needs to go down 2-3 more inches.

I know what I want to do to the front of the truck I just need to figure out the best set up for the rear.

Im wondering if an Air Over Leaf system from Ridetech and a 1" lowering block would get me there... I know with the AOL set up you can change the ride height I just dont know by how much.

Look @ N2RTUX's 77. He should have pics of it air'd out for comparison. It had a Ride Tech AOL set-up w/lowering blocks & the drop limitation was the bed floor.

On Chromaholic's truck above, I believe that's his ride height. It would be your air'd out height w/o bed mods & removal or modification to the front inner wheels.

[muthstryker]

Originally Posted by SCOTI

Look @ N2RTUX's 77. He should have pics of it air'd out for comparison. It had a Ride Tech AOL set-up w/lowering blocks & the drop limitation was the bed floor.

On Chromaholic's truck above, I believe that's his ride height. It would be your air'd out height w/o bed mods & removal or modification to the front inner wheels.

I've looked at Ken's pictures quite a bit for comparison. I think I might be able to get it down where I want it with the AOL set up. Im going to go ahead and try it out

[djunkie]

Originally Posted by muthstryker

Here..

http://www.billetspecialties.com/ite...cid=47&pid=660

Thanks.
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[Pro Performance]

Ok, so got some measurements.

Rear:
22" to the top of wheel opening, at the center line of the axle.
5" to pinch weld (this was measured half way back, on the front part of the bed)

Front:
3.5" to pinch weld at the very front of the cab (since my truck doesnt have front fenders on right now)
34.375" to top of hood (again, because I have no front fenders)

Hope this helps.

[iceship]

Any of u guy have dual gas tanks..... does it not drop low enoff to smash the tanks..
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[Pro Performance]

No, there is still ample room for the tank.

[bagged74]

here is mine with 22s and a stock bed floor and AOL setup

[N2TRUX]

Heres mine with the AoL set up. Keep in mind I have bumpstops set to allow the truck to roll while aired out. If they were removed the truck would go about 1" lower all around.

[N2TRUX]

This is with the Ride Tech 4 link set up. The bumpstops are removed in the front for these pics. The rear set to level here, but it will go a little lower.