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progress · 05-08-2003, 11:01 AM

I posted this on the parts board but thought I should post over here as well. My son got a ticket for no shoulder harness in his '77 C10. Wondering if these trucks had them as stock items in '77?

Thanks.

alf4444 · 05-08-2003, 11:25 AM

My 73 nova had them, and my 78 blazer has them. Was it a citation or a fix it ticket?

stllookn · 05-08-2003, 11:53 AM

I suspect it was a fix it ticket...I will check and see. The PO must have removed them and installed Simpson lap belts. He also got a "fix it" for one tire...slow day at the Krispy Kreme, I guess...LOL!

TIMSPEED · 05-08-2003, 12:36 PM

my 75 didn't come with shoulder harness, and my friend's 79 doesn't have them either...

bpmcgee · 05-08-2003, 12:38 PM

I don't think they were standard equipment in trucks until fairly late. Could be later than 77.

Easy way to tell would be to find the first year that shoulder belts weren't an option.

Brian

**Captkaos** · 05-08-2003, 03:37 PM

All the cabs has the provision for them because it was one of those things they had to be in compliance with by X year. I "THINK" is was 80 were they came standard, but I have seen some with them before that. My 78 Burb Didn't have them and my 78 Jimmy HAS them.

**old Rusty C10** · 05-08-2003, 05:06 PM

get a used set out of a junkyard meanwhile check with the dealer or the factory to get the info whether it came with it or not

bagged78 · 05-08-2003, 09:17 PM

My 78 has the shoulder belts, and my blazer has lap belts, but it's a full top.
A friend of mine had a 76 with lap belts, I think Bob has the best idea, and it's worth the time to fight the ticket... Good luck.

lofat · 05-08-2003, 09:41 PM

my 77 C10 has them stock.

MSL · 05-08-2003, 09:51 PM

My 78 came with shoulder belts.

Blue Beard · 05-08-2003, 10:16 PM

I checked with the state patrol here in washington.

since I drive a 70 & 72 trucks, inquiring on the belts.

They state they try to know if the older vehicles had them.

some of the early pre 70 burbs had them, but the trucks didn't.

the way the washington laws are written is the way they look at it.

Look under the RCW numbers and see how they are worded.

bill_ont_canada · 05-09-2003, 01:12 AM

My '76 has them but... I would like to know how this turns out !

CHaingKaiShek · 05-09-2003, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bill_ont_canada
My '76 has them but... I would like to know how this turns out !

My '73 has lap-belts only.

Jeff

79BIG10 · 05-09-2003, 11:30 AM

I think it boils down to that 73-75 Blazers (I had a 74) had a fully removable top. There was no way to attach the shoulder belts to this. Now in 76 (I think) the blazers were partially removable which gave shoulder belts a place to anchor.

bpmcgee · 05-09-2003, 11:38 AM

79Big10,

My 71 blazer with a full top has shoulder belt mounting points, FYI.

79BIG10 · 05-09-2003, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bpmcgee
79Big10,

My 71 blazer with a full top has shoulder belt mounting points, FYI.

Thanks for the info. Where are they mounted? On teh 73+ with the newer body style I couldn't see a place for it.

CustomChevy · 05-10-2003, 09:09 AM

don't pay that ticket. not all trucks had shoulder belts, only optional until 79 or 80, i believe. (not 100%). some of the earlier cabs don't even have the mounting holes for the shoulder anyway. if your 77 has the holes, might as well get that fixed. they can't PROVE you took them out, all they can do is tell you to have it fixed. after all, you haven't been the sole owner since 77.

oh, if you do have to go to court, you can defend yourself based on the fact that the police man was not a Chevrolet engineer and thus has no legal technical background to say whether or not the truck was supposed to have the shoulder strap. his opinion is not fact and sure as hell not law. his ticket is therefore not based on law or fact, so it's worthless.

good luck!!!!

MSL · 05-10-2003, 06:16 PM

Customchevys right if your cab doesnt have a bolt hole for shoulder belts then it didnt come with them but if it does you will have to pick a set up. My 78 c-10 custom deluxe has shoulder belts they came factory that way.

05-08-2003, 11:01 AM	#1
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05-08-2003, 11:25 AM	#2
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05-08-2003, 11:53 AM	#3
stllookn Saving 1 truck at a time! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,465	I suspect it was a fix it ticket...I will check and see. The PO must have removed them and installed Simpson lap belts. He also got a "fix it" for one tire...slow day at the Krispy Kreme, I guess...LOL! __________________ '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 400/TH400 '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 468/TH400w/buckets '72 C20 Halfhorn (Longhorn w/o cab and front clip) '69 Flxible Cruiser (look up ugly in the dictionary)

05-08-2003, 12:36 PM	#4
TIMSPEED Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,321	my 75 didn't come with shoulder harness, and my friend's 79 doesn't have them either... __________________ I have a few cars... See Them Here

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Captkaos www.73-87chevytrucks.com Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 6,935	All the cabs has the provision for them because it was one of those things they had to be in compliance with by X year. I "THINK" is was 80 were they came standard, but I have seen some with them before that. My 78 Burb Didn't have them and my 78 Jimmy HAS them. __________________ Chris Lucas 1973 Chevy C-10 1978 GMC Jimmy (2WD) - SOLD 1987 R10 twin turbo LS 1991 R3500 SRW CrewCab 1985 K5 diesel swapped project 1989 K5 2WD conversion w/ Vette susp Project Captkaos Customs 73-87chevytrucks.com

05-08-2003, 12:38 PM	#5
bpmcgee Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 2,181	I don't think they were standard equipment in trucks until fairly late. Could be later than 77. Easy way to tell would be to find the first year that shoulder belts weren't an option. Brian

05-08-2003, 05:06 PM	#7
old Rusty C10 Robert Olson Transport Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: recent transplant to NC USA Posts: 20,277	get a used set out of a junkyard meanwhile check with the dealer or the factory to get the info whether it came with it or not __________________ Bob 1951 International running on a squarebody chassis "If a man's worth is judged by the people he associates himself with, then i am the richest man in the world knowing some of the fine people of this board" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...t.php?f=25&a=9 (you can review the site rules here!) PM Me for your vehicle/parts hauling needs in the North East US or see my Facebook page Robert Olson Transport Live each day to the fullest.. you never know when fate is going to pull the rug out from under you... I hate cancer!!

05-08-2003, 09:17 PM	#8
bagged78 world class smart ass! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Clinton Utah Posts: 335	My 78 has the shoulder belts, and my blazer has lap belts, but it's a full top. A friend of mine had a 76 with lap belts, I think Bob has the best idea, and it's worth the time to fight the ticket... Good luck. __________________ Aric 75 2WD BLAZER (never ending project) -some day maybe- 02 2500HD CREW CAB 4X (daily drive) -8" lift 37s and 22s- ____ ____________________________

05-08-2003, 09:41 PM	#9
lofat Rollin' Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Hayward, California Posts: 240	my 77 C10 has them stock. __________________ :: 1977 C10 cheyenne :: :: 1973 new yorker brougham :: for sale - $1,500 lofat productions

05-08-2003, 09:51 PM	#10
MSL Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: So.Oregon Posts: 765	My 78 came with shoulder belts.

05-08-2003, 10:16 PM	#11
Blue Beard Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 8,834	I checked with the state patrol here in washington. since I drive a 70 & 72 trucks, inquiring on the belts. They state they try to know if the older vehicles had them. some of the early pre 70 burbs had them, but the trucks didn't. the way the washington laws are written is the way they look at it. Look under the RCW numbers and see how they are worded. __________________ 1970 Chev CST 2003 Harley Fatboy 1975 Chevrolet Step Van 1956 Chev Bel Air 1977 Blazer 2WD For Sale $3000.00 1978 Blazer 2WD For Sale $7000.00 1978 Silverado 2005 Monte Carlo

05-09-2003, 01:12 AM	#12
bill_ont_canada Nobody is perfect... Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: London,Ont,Canada Posts: 200	My '76 has them but... I would like to know how this turns out ! __________________ Have a fabulous day. Bill... (ö¿ö) " Loud Pipes Save Lives "

05-09-2003, 11:30 AM	#14
79BIG10 I'm back with 2nd truck! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 3,775	I think it boils down to that 73-75 Blazers (I had a 74) had a fully removable top. There was no way to attach the shoulder belts to this. Now in 76 (I think) the blazers were partially removable which gave shoulder belts a place to anchor. __________________ 1979 Chevrolet Bonanza Big10 "Tootsie Roll" 1985 Chevrolet Silverado (wife's) Member of the Southern Bowties Club "Don't underestimate how sexy a fat man who drinks to excess can be." Homer Simpson

05-09-2003, 11:38 AM	#15
bpmcgee Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 2,181	79Big10, My 71 blazer with a full top has shoulder belt mounting points, FYI.

05-10-2003, 09:09 AM	#17
CustomChevy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 462	don't pay that ticket. not all trucks had shoulder belts, only optional until 79 or 80, i believe. (not 100%). some of the earlier cabs don't even have the mounting holes for the shoulder anyway. if your 77 has the holes, might as well get that fixed. they can't PROVE you took them out, all they can do is tell you to have it fixed. after all, you haven't been the sole owner since 77. oh, if you do have to go to court, you can defend yourself based on the fact that the police man was not a Chevrolet engineer and thus has no legal technical background to say whether or not the truck was supposed to have the shoulder strap. his opinion is not fact and sure as hell not law. his ticket is therefore not based on law or fact, so it's worthless. good luck!!!!



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05-10-2003, 06:16 PM	#18
MSL Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: So.Oregon Posts: 765	Customchevys right if your cab doesnt have a bolt hole for shoulder belts then it didnt come with them but if it does you will have to pick a set up. My 78 c-10 custom deluxe has shoulder belts they came factory that way.

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