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JREs69er · 05-10-2003, 07:23 AM

Has anyone had an good/bad experience ordering manuals from a vendor online.

http://www.arborjunction.com/Shop%20Manuals.html

I attempted to order a 1969 Chevy Truck overhaul manual and believe I may have gotten burned.

Payment through paypal was complete shortly after order was completed, but no manual. It has been approximately 3 weeks and I have attempted to contact via email and phone numbers but all are invalid or disconnected.

Location is supposedly in Davey Nebraska.

Unfortunately this was my first purchase online for anything and may possibly be my last. Let me know if anyone has had a similar experience and what I can do to possibly recover my costs.

68 Suburban · 05-10-2003, 07:33 AM

File a complaint with paypal. They are good about stuff like that.

jmanz69 · 05-10-2003, 08:09 AM

Since you paid with paypal, you can probably get most of your money back. File a complaint, they have all his bank info so they will be able to get your money back.

Good luck.

**old Rusty C10** · 05-10-2003, 09:18 AM

theres always a scam artist out there. ive been burned almost twice online buying on ebay and only once on here My best advice is to not buy from RAYVILLE BODY on here he doesnt honor his commitments and takes money doesnt ship and doesnt refund basically a COMMON THIEF
i might add most of the people on here anr on ebay are cool and honorable

dabeers · 05-10-2003, 09:24 AM

I'll have to find out where Davey, NE is. If it's close I'll try to find out more info and let you know. Good luck.

mtdave2 · 05-10-2003, 09:36 AM

i just had this happen too. i sent several emails, finaly i get one back telling that the guy i was dealing with had a stroke! i wasnt too amazed, they guy had 87 positive feedback. couldnt understand why he would risk a really bad feedback over 20 bucks...

No3Fan4Ever · 05-10-2003, 10:37 AM

Don't let this transaction turn you against ordering online;
there are many legitimate venders that are frequent contributors to this message board and can be a tremendous help to anything you need to know or purchase for your truck;
I hope PayPal can get your refund for you
Good Luck

go-fast69 · 05-10-2003, 10:54 AM

I live in North Platte so I checked mapquest.com to see how far Davey is from me and the only thing it comes up with is a Davey road outside of Lincoln. Are you sure it said Davey NE?

**BAD4X4** · 05-10-2003, 11:04 AM

I think we all have gotten scammed at one time or another so I say to you good luck and we all feel your pain!!!!

Thanx Bad

Bill72BB · 05-10-2003, 11:20 AM

If you have a phone # see if you can get some info here it only works with Listed #.
http://www.anywho.com/rl.html

**BAD4X4** · 05-10-2003, 12:09 PM

I agree to file a complaint with paypal, if you didn't receive the goods, they are really good with things like that. It will take about a week or so to hear back as they investigate the case and contact the seller. You may want to give it a little while though for the benefit of the doubt, becasue I think e-bay considers 30 days a reasonable amount of time to get your item. Also, stay away from James and his chrome, he is both here and on e-bay. We received poor chrome and were told we could have a refund if we didn't like it. Well, over $200 later, no refund bad chrome and he was not easy to deal with at all, he got very angry with me. Anyway, don't let it ruin your on line buying, you really can get some good deals, but always check people out and read feedbacks and such. Thanks,

Bad

a71CustomDeluxe · 05-11-2003, 02:09 PM

This who the website is registered to..

Whois info for, arborjunction.com:
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Dean Matthews
1324 D Street
Fairbury, NE 68352
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1324 D Street
Fairbury, NE 68352
US
402-729-3788
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JoetheMobster · 05-11-2003, 03:47 PM

A while ago, I was helping a buddy move. Then the now infamous "we got a extra set of speakers left over - selling them cheap" scam artists pulled up. They were in a White Dodge van, asking us if we wanted to buy some top quality, expensive home theater speakers, cheap! Luckily I saw posts from literally hundreds of users on the Usenet about this (being burned), and told the guys to f**k off! I let em know that people were aware of this scam, and that I'd be letting everyone I know, to watch out for these idiots! They left in a hurry!!!

BTW - for those of you unaware, what you get after shelling out $300-$400, is a pair of cheap crappy speakers in nice speaker boxes. They're worth about $5 though!

I haven't bought anything off the internet myself. I guess the reason for me is, I'm IMPATIENT!! hahaha. If I can't have it in one hand, and handing over cash with the other - it's not going to work.

knucklebuster · 05-11-2003, 08:05 PM

Way to go 71customdeluxe!!!!That's one helluva first post!!!Welcome to the board

jeffspower · 05-12-2003, 12:27 AM

Kinda strange his domain name is registered in Fairbury & Davey is where he is supposedly at. The two towns are about 74 or so miles apart. Davey is a little town with nothing a few miles north of Lincoln on hwy 77.

69 Short Fleet · 05-12-2003, 01:40 AM

I just bought my first item on e-bay, 3 weeks after mailing my money order my rad hose kit arrived (was starting to get a little worried). The seller had poor communication but pulled through and sent me a really nice part, later Doug

Iron-Butt · 05-12-2003, 06:31 PM

good info...from 71 custom deluxe

casey · 05-13-2003, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jeffspower
Kinda strange his domain name is registered in Fairbury & Davey is where he is supposedly at. The two towns are about 74 or so miles apart. Davey is a little town with nothing a few miles north of Lincoln on hwy 77.

he might just have a post box in davey to collect the loot

landon4421 · 05-13-2003, 11:01 AM

I got scammed once, I was getting gas, and some guy came up, "hey man you want to buy some kenwood 6x9's for $60.00." Like a fool I said yes. Dont get me wrong the looked real and sounded good. But my brother inlaw said hey these are not Kenwood speakers. So we went on line and looked up the numbers on the back of the speakers, and sure enough they were fake. I was so pissed off. I went back to the same gas station like two weeks later. The same dumb a$$ came up to me and asked me again. I answered him with a foot in his a$$, and we talked a little more. Need less to say he lost two teeth for the $60.00 he took from me. I think we both learned a good lesson that day. :p

05-10-2003, 07:23 AM	#1
JREs69er Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Romeoville, IL Posts: 75	Beware!!!!! Possibly Scammed Has anyone had an good/bad experience ordering manuals from a vendor online. http://www.arborjunction.com/Shop%20Manuals.html I attempted to order a 1969 Chevy Truck overhaul manual and believe I may have gotten burned. Payment through paypal was complete shortly after order was completed, but no manual. It has been approximately 3 weeks and I have attempted to contact via email and phone numbers but all are invalid or disconnected. Location is supposedly in Davey Nebraska. Unfortunately this was my first purchase online for anything and may possibly be my last. Let me know if anyone has had a similar experience and what I can do to possibly recover my costs.

05-10-2003, 07:33 AM	#2
68 Suburban Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: From Chicago, Live in Phoenix, AZ Posts: 6,802	File a complaint with paypal. They are good about stuff like that. __________________ Just sitting here contemplating contemplation.

05-10-2003, 09:18 AM	#4
old Rusty C10 Robert Olson Transport Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: recent transplant to NC USA Posts: 20,313	theres always a scam artist out there. ive been burned almost twice online buying on ebay and only once on here My best advice is to not buy from RAYVILLE BODY on here he doesnt honor his commitments and takes money doesnt ship and doesnt refund basically a COMMON THIEF i might add most of the people on here anr on ebay are cool and honorable __________________ Bob 1951 International running on a squarebody chassis "If a man's worth is judged by the people he associates himself with, then i am the richest man in the world knowing some of the fine people of this board" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...t.php?f=25&a=9 (you can review the site rules here!) PM Me for your vehicle/parts hauling needs in the North East US or see my Facebook page Robert Olson Transport Live each day to the fullest.. you never know when fate is going to pull the rug out from under you... I hate cancer!!

05-10-2003, 09:24 AM	#5
dabeers Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Syracuse, NE Posts: 33	I'll have to find out where Davey, NE is. If it's close I'll try to find out more info and let you know. Good luck. __________________ '72 Chev 3/4 T Long Box Stepside

05-10-2003, 09:36 AM	#6
mtdave2 newly minted old timer Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Hudson WI Posts: 3,521	i just had this happen too. i sent several emails, finaly i get one back telling that the guy i was dealing with had a stroke! i wasnt too amazed, they guy had 87 positive feedback. couldnt understand why he would risk a really bad feedback over 20 bucks... __________________ ____________________________________________ 72 c20 longhorn 65k org miles and counting! 69 k10 Suburban

05-10-2003, 08:09 AM	#3
jmanz69 Careful, they attack... Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Waterford, MI, USA Posts: 1,107	Since you paid with paypal, you can probably get most of your money back. File a complaint, they have all his bank info so they will be able to get your money back. Good luck.

05-10-2003, 10:37 AM	#7
No3Fan4Ever Running on empty Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Roanoke, Virginia Posts: 1,033	Don't let this transaction turn you against ordering online; there are many legitimate venders that are frequent contributors to this message board and can be a tremendous help to anything you need to know or purchase for your truck; I hope PayPal can get your refund for you Good Luck __________________ _____________________________________________ Tim We have two rules here at the Rock. Rule #1: No writing on the walls. Rule#2: Obey all rules 70 GMC Sierra Grande "Custom Camper" Longhorn 402 Big Block TH400 PS PB factory AC Posi; 94 Bronco XLT 302, auto;worn out daily driver

05-10-2003, 10:54 AM	#8
go-fast69 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: North Platte, NE Posts: 50	I live in North Platte so I checked mapquest.com to see how far Davey is from me and the only thing it comes up with is a Davey road outside of Lincoln. Are you sure it said Davey NE? __________________ 69 swb GMC, 402 BB, 3:73 posi, 3" exhaust, forever a work in progress

05-10-2003, 11:04 AM	#9
BAD4X4 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: La pine Oregon Posts: 1,668	I think we all have gotten scammed at one time or another so I say to you good luck and we all feel your pain!!!! Thanx Bad __________________ 1972 Cheyenne K-30 6"lift {502 PROJECT} 1972 Cheyenne K-30 8"lift 454 450hp {Ol'Blue} 1972 Cheyenne K-20 Custom Stretch 6" lift 454 1972 Custom Deluxe K-20 4" lift 2007 GMC Crew Cab Diesel 6"lift {The Tow Rig 2017 Ford F-350 Crew Cab 6.7 6"lift (Wife's) 1977 El Camino SS Grandpa baught new 1986 K-30 Crew Cab 502 1955 Chevy 2-Door gasser 454 550hp{project} 1956 Chevy Bel-Air 2-Door hardtop 572 700hp 1979 Ford F-350 All Original 4x4 (Wife's)

05-10-2003, 11:20 AM	#10
Bill72BB Thats the Hillbilly way Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Torrance,Ca Posts: 5,979	If you have a phone # see if you can get some info here it only works with Listed #. http://www.anywho.com/rl.html __________________ BILL Torrance Calif 90504 Member DUF Club Member Old Farts Club 72 3/4ton Custom Camper BB402/400 trans Dynomax Cerama-coat headers , Hei distributor ,Edelbrock 1411 air,ps,pb,leafsprings ,98 chevy 60/40 seat,S10 shoulder belts tilt,3.54 Dana 60 rear. 16" Eagle wheels with LT265/75 16 tires,Gaylord Lid,H4 headlights with 100W relay conversion. " If I knew I was going to live this long I would have taken better care of myself " Marriage changes passion...suddenly you're in bed with a relative. A GUY'S PRAYER.... Lord, I pray for a nympho with huge boobs who owns a liquor store and likes to fish and hunt and has a Harley .Amen ,

05-10-2003, 12:09 PM	#11
BAD4X4 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: La pine Oregon Posts: 1,668	I agree to file a complaint with paypal, if you didn't receive the goods, they are really good with things like that. It will take about a week or so to hear back as they investigate the case and contact the seller. You may want to give it a little while though for the benefit of the doubt, becasue I think e-bay considers 30 days a reasonable amount of time to get your item. Also, stay away from James and his chrome, he is both here and on e-bay. We received poor chrome and were told we could have a refund if we didn't like it. Well, over $200 later, no refund bad chrome and he was not easy to deal with at all, he got very angry with me. Anyway, don't let it ruin your on line buying, you really can get some good deals, but always check people out and read feedbacks and such. Thanks, Bad __________________ 1972 Cheyenne K-30 6"lift {502 PROJECT} 1972 Cheyenne K-30 8"lift 454 450hp {Ol'Blue} 1972 Cheyenne K-20 Custom Stretch 6" lift 454 1972 Custom Deluxe K-20 4" lift 2007 GMC Crew Cab Diesel 6"lift {The Tow Rig 2017 Ford F-350 Crew Cab 6.7 6"lift (Wife's) 1977 El Camino SS Grandpa baught new 1986 K-30 Crew Cab 502 1955 Chevy 2-Door gasser 454 550hp{project} 1956 Chevy Bel-Air 2-Door hardtop 572 700hp 1979 Ford F-350 All Original 4x4 (Wife's)

05-11-2003, 02:09 PM	#12
a71CustomDeluxe Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 8	whois arborjunction.com This who the website is registered to.. Whois info for, arborjunction.com: Registrant: Dean Matthews 1324 D Street Fairbury, NE 68352 US Domain name: ARBORJUNCTION.COM Administrative Contact: Matthews, Dean dean@matrim.com 1324 D Street Fairbury, NE 68352 US 402-729-3788 Technical Contact: Matthews, Dean dean@matrim.com 1324 D Street Fairbury, NE 68352 US 402-729-3788 Registration Service Provider: http://www.subhost.com For support, please visit our website. Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC. Record last updated on 29-Mar-2003. Record expires on 07-Dec-2003. Record Created on 07-Dec-1999. Domain servers in listed order: NS1.MATRIM.COM 24.106.9.218 NS2.MATRIM.COM 24.106.9.219 The Data in the Tucows Registrar WHOIS database is provided to you by Tucows for information purposes only, and may be used to assist you in obtaining information about or related to a domain name's registration record. Tucows makes this information available "as is," and does not guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a WHOIS query, you agree that you will use this data only for lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data to: a) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission by e-mail, telephone, or facsimile of mass, unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations to entities other than the data recipient's own existing customers; or (b) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that send queries or data to the systems of any Registry Operator or ICANN-Accredited registrar, except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or modify existing registrations. The compilation, repackaging, dissemination or other use of this Data is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Tucows. Tucows reserves the right to terminate your access to the Tucows WHOIS database in its sole discretion, including without limitation, for excessive querying of the WHOIS database or for failure to otherwise abide by this policy. Tucows reserves the right to modify these terms at any time. By submitting this query, you agree to abide by these terms.

05-11-2003, 03:47 PM	#13
JoetheMobster Listening since '86 Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 1,799	A while ago, I was helping a buddy move. Then the now infamous "we got a extra set of speakers left over - selling them cheap" scam artists pulled up. They were in a White Dodge van, asking us if we wanted to buy some top quality, expensive home theater speakers, cheap! Luckily I saw posts from literally hundreds of users on the Usenet about this (being burned), and told the guys to f*k off! I let em know that people were aware of this scam, and that I'd be letting everyone I know, to watch out for these idiots! They left in a hurry!!! BTW - for those of you unaware, what you get after shelling out $300-$400, is a pair of cheap crappy speakers in nice speaker boxes. They're worth about $5 though! I haven't bought anything off the internet myself. I guess the reason for me is, I'm IMPATIENT!! hahaha. If I can't have it in one hand, and handing over cash with the other - it's not going to work. __________________ 2007 Saturn Aura - hey it WAS a GM product Last edited by JoetheMobster; 05-11-2003 at 03:51 PM.*

05-11-2003, 08:05 PM	#14
knucklebuster Failure is NOT an option! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: greenwood s.c. Posts: 811	Way to go 71customdeluxe!!!!That's one helluva first post!!!Welcome to the board __________________ House payment or truck parts?????.........why does life have to be so complicated? 1969 Chevy Shortbed Fleetside 1969 Camaro ps pb a/c(drove in high school now it's just a yard ornament,but it's next on the list for resto) 1990 Ni$$an hardbody( daily beater that has been really beaten!) 1999 Grand Am GT(wifes ride...never buy a pontiac!!Trust Me)

05-12-2003, 12:27 AM	#15
jeffspower Well, Whoop-dee-do! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Easton, Mo. pop.- me & scarcely a few others Posts: 2,302	Kinda strange his domain name is registered in Fairbury & Davey is where he is supposedly at. The two towns are about 74 or so miles apart. Davey is a little town with nothing a few miles north of Lincoln on hwy 77.



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05-12-2003, 01:40 AM	#16
69 Short Fleet Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kelowna B.C. Canada Posts: 1,086	I just bought my first item on e-bay, 3 weeks after mailing my money order my rad hose kit arrived (was starting to get a little worried). The seller had poor communication but pulled through and sent me a really nice part, later Doug

05-12-2003, 06:31 PM	#17
Iron-Butt 454 club Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,348	good info...from 71 custom deluxe __________________ David 1965 Chevrolet c-10 454 automatic Custom bbw swb. 1965 Chevrolet C-10 swb (Sold) 1963 Chevrolet C-10 6 Cyl automatic with dual exhaust, pb, ps and 17's. R.I.P "I will miss you. 1967 Chevrolet C-10 6 Cyl Custom lwb 1939 Chevrolet Coupe, 350 v8 automatic. 1935 Chevrolet 2 Dr Standard in the works. 2015 Harley Davidson Street Glide. 2023 Chevrolet Stingray Z51 Convertible. I never want to grow up.

05-13-2003, 11:01 AM	#19
landon4421 Life is Good ! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hollister, Ca. Posts: 1,992	I got scammed once, I was getting gas, and some guy came up, "hey man you want to buy some kenwood 6x9's for $60.00." Like a fool I said yes. Dont get me wrong the looked real and sounded good. But my brother inlaw said hey these are not Kenwood speakers. So we went on line and looked up the numbers on the back of the speakers, and sure enough they were fake. I was so pissed off. I went back to the same gas station like two weeks later. The same dumb a$$ came up to me and asked me again. I answered him with a foot in his a$$, and we talked a little more. Need less to say he lost two teeth for the $60.00 he took from me. I think we both learned a good lesson that day. :p __________________ '72 Chevy C10 4x4 shortbed "Project" '71 Chevy C10 2wd longbed "partsrunner" '91 Chevy Burb 4x4 "kidrunner" '14 Honda Accord Sport "commuter"

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