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bobs409 · 06-08-2012, 06:47 AM

Got this chrome shfiter from a 72 C20 but doesn't match the ones in my 2 trucks. They are painted and have 2 bends where this has only one. Could this be newer?

Thanks,

Bob

camrycurt · 06-08-2012, 12:37 PM

From what I understand the single bend SM465 shifter like in your pics is the 4x4 version, while the double bend shifter is for 2x4 trucks.

FWIW, I think the chrome versions are harder to find (especially in good condition), so you might have a treasure on your hands!

I'm sure others will chime in to correct me if I'm wrong.

yfs200p · 06-08-2012, 04:32 PM

You're wrong, those things are a dime a dozen. You should probably just send it over to me and I'll throw it out for you! LOL

All kidding aside, any single bend shifter like that is from a 4x4 in years 67-72 only. The chrome ones were only available in higher trim levels, Cheyenne and cheyenne super. If you don't need it, I would do some research on how much it's worth and offer it for sale on the parts board. It's a pretty rare item that someone might really be looking for. But that part is up to you!

Also, many of the 73-87 ones were chrome, but they all had two bends in them.
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David67 · 06-08-2012, 04:33 PM

Looks like mine. Factory SM420 in my '67 C10.

odog · 06-08-2012, 09:08 PM

I think that is a sm420 shifter, at least it looks like my sm420 shifter, only mine isnt chromed.

bobs409 · 06-09-2012, 06:20 AM

Thanks guys. I had no idea it might be rare/valuable. Saw it just sitting on the seat of that truck in a junkyard and brought it home.

David67 · 06-09-2012, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by yfs200p

All kidding aside, any single bend shifter like that is from a 4x4 in years 67-72 only.

Mine's no 4x4!

camrycurt · 06-11-2012, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David67

Mine's no 4x4!

The shifters are interchangable so they tend to get mixed up as owners swap transmissions, trucks, etc.

My C10 came with a single bend shifter and I swapped it back out for the "correct" double bend version. Just like most things on these trucks, it's all about personal preference and making what you have on hand work.

David67 · 06-11-2012, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camrycurt

The shifters are interchangable so they tend to get mixed up as owners swap transmissions, trucks, etc.

My C10 came with a single bend shifter and I swapped it back out for the "correct" double bend version. Just like most things on these trucks, it's all about personal preference and making what you have on hand work.

Interesting.. I'm very sure my truck came with the sm420. The SPID says 4-speed (could be 465 I guess?), but it didn't appear that my shifter or transmission had ever been swapped.
odog says it looks like the shifter on his sm420.
Can anyone else help out?

**MJN** · 06-13-2012, 01:24 PM

How many PTO covers does your transmission have? The SM465 should have two, the SM420 would only have one. Also, reverse on the SM420 is to the left and down where the SM465 reverse is to the right and down.

Ozark Tim · 06-13-2012, 02:07 PM

On 6's and 4wd's the trans is mounted further rearward in the chassis. I think all 6's and 4wd's came with the single bend shift lever because of no need to clear the dash panel. Not sure about vaiations between 465 and 420's.

David67 · 06-13-2012, 03:48 PM

Mine has 1 PTO cover and my pattern's left and down. I just meant that the SPID, from what I can tell, doesn't specify between the two. Mine did originally have the 292 L6 so that might make more sense to have the 420 and single bend shifter from the factory on a 2wd 1/2 ton truck. And I didn't think this was that uncommon... I did love how the bell housing from '67 fit perfectly with my '93 350 block!

**Bob B.** · 06-13-2012, 05:07 PM

New Process 435's have a shift lever with only one bend. The 435's were only used in 4X2's, and reverse is to the right and down.

odog · 06-13-2012, 10:24 PM

My 420 is behind a factory 327, reverse is to the left and down, it messes with my wife whenver she gets in it.

06-08-2012, 06:47 AM	#1
bobs409 1969 Custom 30 wrecker Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Pottsville, Pa Posts: 2,611	Help identify 4 spd shifter Got this chrome shfiter from a 72 C20 but doesn't match the ones in my 2 trucks. They are painted and have 2 bends where this has only one. Could this be newer? Thanks, Bob Attached Images __________________ Bob 63 Impala 283/PG/3.36 (under restoration) 66 Impala 327/PG/3.36 66 Chevelle SS 409/M22/3.55 69 Chevelle 307/PG/3.08 (future restoration) 69 C10 short stepside 454/TH350/3.73 69 Custom 30 tow truck 350/4 spd/4.10 (resto done, CRUISIN TIME!) 71 Cheyenne 20 fleetside 350/4 spd/4.10 71 Chevelle 6/PG/3.08 72 Chevelle 454/M21/4.10

06-08-2012, 12:37 PM	#2
camrycurt Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Leesburg, VA Posts: 420	Re: Help identify 4 spd shifter From what I understand the single bend SM465 shifter like in your pics is the 4x4 version, while the double bend shifter is for 2x4 trucks. FWIW, I think the chrome versions are harder to find (especially in good condition), so you might have a treasure on your hands! I'm sure others will chime in to correct me if I'm wrong. __________________ Curt 1970 C/10, 250 L6 with Rochester BV carb, SM465 4 speed, 3.73 open rear

06-08-2012, 04:32 PM	#3
yfs200p E.H.F.D Engine #2 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: East Hampton, NY Long Island Posts: 916	Re: Help identify 4 spd shifter You're wrong, those things are a dime a dozen. You should probably just send it over to me and I'll throw it out for you! LOL All kidding aside, any single bend shifter like that is from a 4x4 in years 67-72 only. The chrome ones were only available in higher trim levels, Cheyenne and cheyenne super. If you don't need it, I would do some research on how much it's worth and offer it for sale on the parts board. It's a pretty rare item that someone might really be looking for. But that part is up to you! Also, many of the 73-87 ones were chrome, but they all had two bends in them. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ -NICK '72 K10 SWB Fleetside. Avocado Highlander 350-4speed-NP205 Frame Off Re-Creation '89 GMC V3500 C/C Flatbed Plow Truck 454/SM465/Np205 '15 Chevy 2500HD CCSB High Country Duramax '22 Tahoe Premier Duramax

06-08-2012, 04:33 PM	#4
David67 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Spring, TX Posts: 886	Re: Help identify 4 spd shifter Looks like mine. Factory SM420 in my '67 C10. Attached Images __________________ 1967 C10 Fightin' Texas Aggie Class of 2015 IG: david_r67

06-08-2012, 09:08 PM	#5
odog Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wendell, Idaho Posts: 608	Re: Help identify 4 spd shifter I think that is a sm420 shifter, at least it looks like my sm420 shifter, only mine isnt chromed. __________________ 1969 4x4 Nothing beats a good rock drill and some dynamite

06-09-2012, 06:20 AM	#6
bobs409 1969 Custom 30 wrecker Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Pottsville, Pa Posts: 2,611	Re: Help identify 4 spd shifter Thanks guys. I had no idea it might be rare/valuable. Saw it just sitting on the seat of that truck in a junkyard and brought it home. __________________ Bob 63 Impala 283/PG/3.36 (under restoration) 66 Impala 327/PG/3.36 66 Chevelle SS 409/M22/3.55 69 Chevelle 307/PG/3.08 (future restoration) 69 C10 short stepside 454/TH350/3.73 69 Custom 30 tow truck 350/4 spd/4.10 (resto done, CRUISIN TIME!) 71 Cheyenne 20 fleetside 350/4 spd/4.10 71 Chevelle 6/PG/3.08 72 Chevelle 454/M21/4.10

06-13-2012, 01:24 PM	#10
MJN Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Maquoketa, Ia/ Orr, Mn Posts: 3,052	Re: Help identify 4 spd shifter How many PTO covers does your transmission have? The SM465 should have two, the SM420 would only have one. Also, reverse on the SM420 is to the left and down where the SM465 reverse is to the right and down. __________________ '51 South Bend Model "9A" '56 Chevy 3600 NAPCO '74 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20-restored on 37's '72 GMC Sierra Custom K2500- in progress '08 GMC Envoy Denali '12 GMC Sierra 2500HD Denali '17 GMC Yukon XL VCCA member #58596 http://www.nohrco.com

06-13-2012, 02:07 PM	#11
Ozark Tim Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Oakville, MO Posts: 1,018	Re: Help identify 4 spd shifter On 6's and 4wd's the trans is mounted further rearward in the chassis. I think all 6's and 4wd's came with the single bend shift lever because of no need to clear the dash panel. Not sure about vaiations between 465 and 420's.

06-13-2012, 03:48 PM	#12
David67 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Spring, TX Posts: 886	Re: Help identify 4 spd shifter Mine has 1 PTO cover and my pattern's left and down. I just meant that the SPID, from what I can tell, doesn't specify between the two. Mine did originally have the 292 L6 so that might make more sense to have the 420 and single bend shifter from the factory on a 2wd 1/2 ton truck. And I didn't think this was that uncommon... I did love how the bell housing from '67 fit perfectly with my '93 350 block! __________________ 1967 C10 Fightin' Texas Aggie Class of 2015 IG: david_r67

06-13-2012, 05:07 PM	#13
Bob B. Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,369	Re: Help identify 4 spd shifter New Process 435's have a shift lever with only one bend. The 435's were only used in 4X2's, and reverse is to the right and down. __________________ 1967 GMC CM-2500 Camper Cruiser, 351E V-6, NP 435 4 speed, Dana 60, and factory A/C. 2012 GMC K-3500 WT regular cab, 6.0L Vortec, 6L90.

06-13-2012, 10:24 PM	#14
odog Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wendell, Idaho Posts: 608	Re: Help identify 4 spd shifter My 420 is behind a factory 327, reverse is to the left and down, it messes with my wife whenver she gets in it. __________________ 1969 4x4 Nothing beats a good rock drill and some dynamite



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