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AKLVTLO · 08-07-2012, 12:12 PM

Is it easier to install a classic air a/c system on a non a/c cab or just swap cabs that came with factory a/c? I have a 69 without and was thinking about putting a 70 cab with. a/c on.
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19673ontree · 08-07-2012, 12:59 PM

I am installing an old air products underdash system on my 67 had asked on here in the last few days for info on ac systems advice or whatever ? They dont seem to be anybody that knows much about them ? I have never had a vehicle with ac before , my system should be here this week when I get it installed I will post how it works
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SunSoaked · 08-07-2012, 01:04 PM

I have a Vintage System and I am using a non ac cab (i have an ac cab also). My kit is not a year specific application, so I wanted a "clean slate" so-to-speak to have the ability to use different (billet aluminim) vents and not be stuck with the stock round balls. Just my .02 cents.

AKLVTLO · 08-07-2012, 01:15 PM

Ok sounds good.....keep me posted!!!
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Scottshotrods · 08-07-2012, 02:15 PM

The way to go to install air in your truck.Is Vintage Air they have a complete 100% bolt in kits for non factory air trucks or factory air trucks.Once again they are 100% bolt in and they work the best for truck period.If you are looking for great package deal let us know and we will take care of you for sure.You can p/m me or e-mail or call the shop

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MARKDTN · 08-07-2012, 02:34 PM

If you have a good non-a/c cab and want to install factory a/c it is not that hard to do. Measure twice, cut once.

AKLVTLO · 08-07-2012, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MARKDTN

If you have a good non-a/c cab and want to install factory a/c it is not that hard to do. Measure twice, cut once.

Ha so true! sounds good. Ok the reason why i ask is, don't the vintage air systems price around $1200? Because i can pick this truck up for the same price running with a/c. So swap the cabs and i have a sbc 400 to work with.

Craigslist: 70 Chevy Classic Truck C-20 Longbed http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/3154096097.html
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67ChevyRedneck · 08-07-2012, 03:02 PM

That's all true, but if the system is apart or has not been charged in a long time you could be replacing the compressor condensor and dryer, which isn't cheap either (ad doesn't say if the air works.)

big_al_71 · 08-07-2012, 03:03 PM

My cab was non a/c and we installed a Classic auto air kit and it has been in my truck for four years and it works flawless in this miami heat..

**leddzepp** · 08-07-2012, 03:13 PM

The ad does not say if the A/C works or not....which means it doesn't. If it did the guy would be bragging about it in the ad, cause you NEED it in Vegas.

AKLVTLO · 08-07-2012, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by leddzepp

The ad does not say if the A/C works or not....which means it doesn't. If it did the guy would be bragging about it in the ad, cause you NEED it in Vegas.

Lol yes for sure! I'll get some more info from the guy about it a/c, tranny, ect ect!!! Lol where is that big red easy button? Damn decisions decisions!!!
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MARKDTN · 08-07-2012, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AKLVTLO

Ha so true! sounds good. Ok the reason why i ask is, don't the vintage air systems price around $1200? Because i can pick this truck up for the same price running with a/c. So swap the cabs and i have a sbc 400 to work with.

Craigslist: 70 Chevy Classic Truck C-20 Longbed http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/3154096097.html
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That looks like a big-block to me. Shame to cut that one up. But new parts and a whole vehicle are 2 different things. For the new parts you get.....new parts. If you buy a used truck, you get old stuff. If you buy the old, you will have to fix a broken control lever, probably a mode door, new relay, and a new inside hose kit. Not to mention that you will need sb brackets, probably new hoses, compressor, dryer, expansion valve.

AKLVTLO · 08-07-2012, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MARKDTN

That looks like a big-block to me. Shame to cut that one up. But new parts and a whole vehicle are 2 different things. For the new parts you get.....new parts. If you buy a used truck, you get old stuff. If you buy the old, you will have to fix a broken control lever, probably a mode door, new relay, and a new inside hose kit. Not to mention that you will need sb brackets, probably new hoses, compressor, dryer, expansion valve.

So true and yes it is a bbc! Talked to the guy more and all he really knows that it's original and sometimes the a/c works and sometimes it doesn't. Thanks for all the insight but i think my best bet is to buy a new a/c system! So my question now is which system works the best?
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Devil Pup · 08-07-2012, 05:14 PM

I installed an Old Air kit in my truck. Was simple and blows nice and cold all day long. I would go that route rather then trying to piece together an original simply because as stated previously trying to replace any and all components that are bad would not only be frustrating but will probably cost you more then an aftermarket kit in the long run. Not to mention you either get to stick with R12 and pay a ton for the charge or fork out more money again to update to the R134a. . Just my two cents. hope that helps

AKLVTLO · 08-07-2012, 05:19 PM

Ok cool thanks!
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Devil Pup · 08-07-2012, 05:35 PM

Oh BTW i recommend doing the electronic controls rather then the cable operated unit. reason for this is as follows.

1) check valves tend not to want to shut off completely after time, so your system wont get as cool as it can.

2)the cables tend to tighten up over the years and make it more of a pain "not a big deal just saying"

3) its either hot or cold. There's a bit of adjustment on the heat but on the AC the micro switch is either on or its off. So cold or not.

reason i like electronic controls is as follows:
Valve is electric and works every time from my experience with it.

and you have a full range of adjustment of temp. much better options for keeping the cab comfy.

67ChevyRedneck · 08-07-2012, 05:42 PM

I did an install thread on the Vintage Air set up. It's awesome.

http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=249479

Devil Pup · 08-07-2012, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

I did an install thread on the Vintage Air set up. It's awesome.

http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=249479

Nice write up man!

AKLVTLO · 08-07-2012, 06:05 PM

Ok awesome thanks!
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Chvy2NV · 08-07-2012, 10:07 PM

I'm also looking at the vintage air and classic auto kits. Have heard nothing but great reviews from both.
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67ChevyRedneck · 08-07-2012, 10:58 PM

No problem.

Mine's been blowing ice cold since '07.

AKLVTLO · 08-08-2012, 11:20 AM

Awesome great!!!
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08-07-2012, 12:12 PM	#1
AKLVTLO Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 26	A/c ????? Is it easier to install a classic air a/c system on a non a/c cab or just swap cabs that came with factory a/c? I have a 69 without and was thinking about putting a 70 cab with. a/c on. Posted via Mobile Device

08-07-2012, 12:59 PM	#2
19673ontree CAN'T FIX NOTHIN Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SOUTHRUST VIRGINIA !!! Posts: 2,112	Re: A/c ????? I am installing an old air products underdash system on my 67 had asked on here in the last few days for info on ac systems advice or whatever ? They dont seem to be anybody that knows much about them ? I have never had a vehicle with ac before , my system should be here this week when I get it installed I will post how it works Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1967 C10 Shortbed Fleetside Small back glass 6 cyl 3spd on the tree 3.08 gears underdash AC

08-07-2012, 01:04 PM	#3
SunSoaked Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Yuma Arizona Posts: 1,526	Re: A/c ????? I have a Vintage System and I am using a non ac cab (i have an ac cab also). My kit is not a year specific application, so I wanted a "clean slate" so-to-speak to have the ability to use different (billet aluminim) vents and not be stuck with the stock round balls. Just my .02 cents.

08-07-2012, 01:15 PM	#4
AKLVTLO Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 26	Re: A/c ????? Ok sounds good.....keep me posted!!! Posted via Mobile Device

08-07-2012, 02:15 PM	#5
Scottshotrods Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: oxnard ca Posts: 2,201	Re: A/c ????? The way to go to install air in your truck.Is Vintage Air they have a complete 100% bolt in kits for non factory air trucks or factory air trucks.Once again they are 100% bolt in and they work the best for truck period.If you are looking for great package deal let us know and we will take care of you for sure.You can p/m me or e-mail or call the shop justin@scottshotrods.com scotts@scottshotrods.com (805)485-0382

08-07-2012, 02:34 PM	#6
MARKDTN Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 2,144	Re: A/c ????? If you have a good non-a/c cab and want to install factory a/c it is not that hard to do. Measure twice, cut once. __________________ '83 K20-TPI '73 C10 '79 C10-ex-diesel(SOLD) '07 Tahoe(Son driving) '14 Suburban-DD '71 C10-current project

08-07-2012, 03:02 PM	#8
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: A/c ????? That's all true, but if the system is apart or has not been charged in a long time you could be replacing the compressor condensor and dryer, which isn't cheap either (ad doesn't say if the air works.) __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

08-07-2012, 03:03 PM	#9
big_al_71 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 11,375	Re: A/c ????? My cab was non a/c and we installed a Classic auto air kit and it has been in my truck for four years and it works flawless in this miami heat.. __________________ Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please!!!!!. Sylvester's build thread >>>http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ht=big+rebuild

08-07-2012, 03:13 PM	#10
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 19,995	Re: A/c ????? The ad does not say if the A/C works or not....which means it doesn't. If it did the guy would be bragging about it in the ad, cause you NEED it in Vegas. __________________ 1972 C/10 Cheyenne Super SWB. Restored, loaded, slammed. 1968 C/10 50th Anniversary LWB. Unrestored, stock, daily driver/work truck. RIP ElJay RIP 67ChevyRedneck RIP Grumpy Old Man

08-07-2012, 05:14 PM	#14
Devil Pup Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Riverside, Ca Posts: 407	Re: A/c ????? I installed an Old Air kit in my truck. Was simple and blows nice and cold all day long. I would go that route rather then trying to piece together an original simply because as stated previously trying to replace any and all components that are bad would not only be frustrating but will probably cost you more then an aftermarket kit in the long run. Not to mention you either get to stick with R12 and pay a ton for the charge or fork out more money again to update to the R134a. . Just my two cents. hope that helps

08-07-2012, 05:19 PM	#15
AKLVTLO Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 26	Re: A/c ????? Ok cool thanks! Posted via Mobile Device

08-07-2012, 05:35 PM	#16
Devil Pup Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Riverside, Ca Posts: 407	Re: A/c ????? Oh BTW i recommend doing the electronic controls rather then the cable operated unit. reason for this is as follows. 1) check valves tend not to want to shut off completely after time, so your system wont get as cool as it can. 2)the cables tend to tighten up over the years and make it more of a pain "not a big deal just saying" 3) its either hot or cold. There's a bit of adjustment on the heat but on the AC the micro switch is either on or its off. So cold or not. reason i like electronic controls is as follows: Valve is electric and works every time from my experience with it. and you have a full range of adjustment of temp. much better options for keeping the cab comfy.

08-07-2012, 05:42 PM	#17
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: A/c ????? I did an install thread on the Vintage Air set up. It's awesome. http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=249479 __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

08-07-2012, 06:05 PM	#19
AKLVTLO Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 26	Re: A/c ????? Ok awesome thanks! Posted via Mobile Device

08-07-2012, 10:07 PM	#20
Chvy2NV Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: So. Florida Posts: 873	Re: A/c ????? I'm also looking at the vintage air and classic auto kits. Have heard nothing but great reviews from both. Posted via Mobile Device



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08-07-2012, 10:58 PM	#21
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: A/c ????? No problem. Mine's been blowing ice cold since '07. __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

08-08-2012, 11:20 AM	#22
AKLVTLO Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 26	Re: A/c ????? Awesome great!!! Posted via Mobile Device

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