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Old 10-22-2012, 12:04 AM   #1
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got 2 questions!

first off anyone know where i can get one of these?


Also I'm trying to do this build on a budget for the time being,I was given a 283 with the truck. Can I still have an engine with 350hp that I can have some fun with? The main goal is driving and safetied.

When the time comes I may go to a 383 stroker and put the 283 in my blazer.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:26 AM   #2
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Re: got 2 questions!

I can't tell from the photo what that is...

A 283 can be made to make 350 hp, but is would be a ragged edge high compression motor with bad street manners. It would be a lot more streetable with around 275hp. Be careful with cam selection. What seems mild in a 350 is big in a 283. The main issue with 283's is the bore size and having to run small valves. You have to be careful with even 1.94/ 1.60 valve sizes from "double hump" heads being close to the edge of the bore with a high lift cam.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:30 AM   #3
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Re: got 2 questions!

That is the dust cover for the hanger bearing. Not really sure if it is just the one or two of them, I'm assuming both sides should be covered. What do you mean bad street manners?
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:37 AM   #4
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Re: got 2 questions!

Try this link for shields. There should be 2. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Driveshaft-B...sories&vxp=mtr
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That is the dust cover for the hanger bearing. Not really sure if it is just the one or two of them, I'm assuming both sides should be covered. What do you mean bad street manners?
High compression requiring premium or better fuel, low vacuum for accessories, rough idle, high stall converter if running an auto trans, poor fuel mileage
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:42 AM   #6
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i'll have to check the measurements thanks hopefully those would work!
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:46 AM   #7
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High compression requiring premium or better fuel, low vacuum for accessories, rough idle, high stall converter if running an auto trans, poor fuel mileage
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I'll be running manual transmission, sorry if I don't seem too versed in the ways of motors this is my first build haha. What I should do is check out all my engine parts first and see if they are compatible
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:48 AM   #8
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Here are a couple pictures of how the shields go.The bearing goes between them oriented as in pic 2.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:50 AM   #9
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Since we're on the topic of the axle what is the size of that bolt? I need a replacement, is it a specialty?
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Since we're on the topic of the axle what is the size of that bolt? I need a replacement, is it a specialty?
Axle? Do you mean the driveshaft bolt? If so, I can't say since mine's reassembled.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:59 AM   #11
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oops sorry ha ha drive shaft it's late where I am I've been up all day... brainfart. I'll have to research it, I appreciate the help though. Still need to figure out what I'll be doing engine wise.
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oops sorry ha ha drive shaft it's late where I am I've been up all day... brainfart. I'll have to research it, I appreciate the help though. Still need to figure out what I'll be doing engine wise.
Probably the same time here...

My best recollection on the bolt is 7/16" or 1/2" by 1-1/2" or 2" long. Not sure if it is a grade 5 or grade 8. Guess that's not much help since it's just a guess.

By the way, mine's a 3/4 ton. Not sure that matters.
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Old 10-22-2012, 01:14 AM   #13
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I'll probably end up going to the local bolt supplier and getting a grade 5 and bring the driveshaft with me to match it up monday.
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:04 PM   #14
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looks like that dust cover should fit! thank you very much!
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:57 AM   #15
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Re: got 2 questions!

ended up picking up the dust cover.
1.I'm wondering with the 283 i want to build something nice and mild but can smoke tires and be quick what should i be looking to do and how much should i be looking at for cost?

2. Looking into power steering and wondering if anyone knows a direct bolt on way of doing it?

3. looking to do a disc brake conversion, now ive come across an issue if i do a 5 bolt front is it possible to change the rear to 5 bolt easily or will this be difficult?

4. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep the transmission and just make a 3 spd manual rather then a whole new tranny.

5.Wondering WHY did some move the gas tank back?(other then safety reasons)
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Old 11-03-2012, 05:08 AM   #16
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1.I'm wondering with the 283 i want to build something nice and mild but can smoke tires and be quick what should i be looking to do and how much should i be looking at for cost?


2. Looking into power steering and wondering if anyone knows a direct bolt on way of doing it?

3. looking to do a disc brake conversion, now ive come across an issue if i do a 5 bolt front is it possible to change the rear to 5 bolt easily or will this be difficult?
-Swap a different axle

4. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep the transmission and just make a 3 spd manual rather then a whole new tranny.

5.Wondering WHY did some move the gas tank back?(other then safety reasons)
-how much money do you have? Pull the 283 and get a bigger motor. Define “quick” a 17 second quarter mile?
-yes, get a power steering pump and brackets and bolt it on, it is all bolt on.
-Swap a different axle
-transmission, that is up to you. you like rowing gears or no?
-why did the chicken cross the road?
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Old 11-03-2012, 05:14 AM   #17
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Re: got 2 questions!

-not 10 grand for a crate motor
-and your saying any power steering pump and gearbox will bolt right up?
-if thats the case of just swap the axle what is the procedure for rear disc?
- and i dont know he saw a guy smoking in a truck with an in cab gas tank?
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Old 11-03-2012, 05:22 AM   #18
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Re: got 2 questions!

you asked questions and i had replied.

not 10k for a crate motor is a great answer to the 2 questions i asked back.

yes not any power steering pump, but one for your truck/motor

rear disc, you didnt say anytyhing about rear disc brakes, was under the impression front disc brake conversion. but same thing, either get a weld on rear disc brake kit, or s10 disc brake axle or full size axle-would have to measure to figure out width ofcourse.

also had no idea you meant they moved the fuel tank in the cab.
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Old 11-03-2012, 05:28 AM   #19
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Re: got 2 questions!

no i was asking why guys moved it out of the cab, whether it was specifically a safety thing or otherwise.

and at this point in time lets say 5k for a motor

well im not sure the 68 came with power steering i was wondering what the interchange or rather what vehicle i could take from that would be a direct fit to the 68

sorry if things arent clear this is the first build im doing and i'm just kinda winging it
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:24 PM   #20
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Re: got 2 questions!

You can get a used 350, and build it to make 350 ponies EZPZ. Getting 1 hp per cubic inch in a 350 is no sweat. You'll have waaaaaaaaaayyyyyy less money in it than trying to make 350 ponies with a 283.

Getting a 283 to spin at high RPM to make that much power is gonna cost you some big bucks. The only thing you'll be able to use from the original engine is the block. And that will need to be punched out to the max. Everything else will be aftermarket...

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Back to your orig question.....you can rebuild your 283 and still run strong, they are good little little motors.
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Re: got 2 questions!

If you plan on upgrading to a larger engine later on then why not save your money and build one engine? As said the little 283 will take a lot of work and cash to get it to where you want it. In it's stock shape it's a good mileage engine.
For power, Remember there is no substitute for cubic inches. The more the better.
And as for the brakes, steering and rear end options, do lots of reading here. Read what others have used and put a package together to suit your needs.
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Re: got 2 questions!

I'm looking to get about 300hp out if like I said I can smoke the tires when i need and it wont brake the bank maybe later in time if it become more show car it may get a big block.. but, I want it as a daily driver for now to cruise around on our cruise nights.
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If you have $5K for an engine,there are plenty of crate motors with 350 HP tht will come in under tht budget and have a warranty.Do disc on the front and drive it.The rear end in these trucks is a bit light to warrant rear disc IMHO.A small block bracket set and a PS box from any 2wd truck from 1968 to 1986 will get you PS.After about 1978 or so (not sure which year) the fittigs are metric and you'll have to have hoses made.The later gearbox is 3 1/2 turns lock to lock,the earlier is 4 1/2.
I seriously doubt you'll ever be happy with a 350 HP 283 on the street.Go with a fresh350 Vortec and a mild cam,headers and intake and you should get close to 350 easily.In fact with a budget of $5K you can probably build a very streetable 383 and have enough left over to fill the tank.They move the tank for safety and more room in the cab.A 5 lug axle from a 71-72 will bolt right in as long as the axle you use has the right hangers(either leaf or coil) whichever yours is.Watch your gear ratio for the rear axle.You want 3:08 or so for an auto without OD and 3:73 or so with a Manual.

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I'm looking to get about 300hp out if like I said I can smoke the tires when i need and it wont brake the bank maybe later in time if it become more show car it may get a big block.. but, I want it as a daily driver for now to cruise around on our cruise nights.


You can smoke the tires in a truck with an inline 6.

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