turn signal question?

[cmyc5575]

Hello all, I have been having issues with the driver side front turn signal not wanting to flash at all. I noticed that the side marker light wires were cut rite behind the socket so I bought a new socket and also the turn signal socket that is in the bumper. I havent gotten a chance to put the bumper socket in yet but did put the side marker socket on and when i turn the lights on the side marker lights up like it suppose to, but the turn singal inside the cab stays dimly lit. Is this normal until i replace the turn singal socket to or could i have a crossed wire some where? Also not sure if Im wiring the colors up correctly the replacment that i bought has one brown and black wire and the stock was blue and brown.

[J Knight]

You basicly have 3 wires to each turn signal socket and 2 wires to each marker light.

Turn signal socket
1. power for park/run lights
2. flashed power for blinker
3. ground

Marker light
1. power for park/run lights
2. ground

It seems that you used power #1 and flashed power #2 for a ground wich is feeding back to your cluster/blinker indicator.

[cmyc5575]

Originally Posted by J Knight

You basicly have 3 wires to each turn signal socket and 2 wires to each marker light.

Turn signal socket
1. power for park/run lights
2. flashed power for blinker
3. ground

Marker light
1. power for park/run lights
2. ground

It seems that you used power #1 and flashed power #2 for a ground wich is feeding back to your cluster/blinker indicator.

Ok what about the colors the replacment that i bought for the marker lights is brown and black where the stock is blue and brown. How should i hook them up? I thought that brown was ground on the stock so i hooked the black up to the brown. Funny thing is even when you wire it both ways the marker is coming on and still feeding back to the cluster, take in mind i still havent hooked up the turn signal socket.?

[J Knight]

The wires you have crossed are from your truck, not the light.

[cmyc5575]

Originally Posted by J Knight

The wires you have crossed are from your truck, not the light.

So, its not neccessarily that I havent put the turn singal on or that i have the wrong color hooked up to the incorrect wire color, but a crossed wire somewhere else in the truck?

[J Knight]

Originally Posted by J Knight

You basicly have 3 wires to each turn signal socket and 2 wires to each marker light.

Turn signal socket
1. power for park/run lights
2. flashed power for blinker
3. ground

Marker light
1. power for park/run lights
2. ground

It seems that you used power #1 and flashed power #2 for a ground wich is feeding back to your cluster/blinker indicator.

Originally Posted by J Knight

The wires you have crossed are from your truck, not the light.

You have connected either the marker light or the turn signal socket ground wire to the wrong wire "from your truck harness". Im not sure about the colors of the wires from your harness or your replacement sockets but a test light will easily tell you wich wire is wich from your truck harness.

[cmyc5575]

Originally Posted by J Knight

You have connected either the marker light or the turn signal socket ground wire to the wrong wire "from your truck harness". Im not sure about the colors of the wires from your harness or your replacement sockets but a test light will easily tell you wich wire is wich from your truck harness.

My Harness= One blue and one Brown

Replacement marker socket= One brown and one black

I havent wired the turn signal socket yet. How does the test light work? Sorry real new to all this.

[J Knight]

You can connect the marker socket either way as long as its the original 2 wires. Cut the original turn socket off and see if it is what is feeding back to your cluster.

[cmyc5575]

Originally Posted by J Knight

You can connect the marker socket either way as long as its the original 2 wires. Cut the original turn socket off and see if it is what is feeding back to your cluster.

I cut the turn signal socket and the marker light both off. Thats what im saying that is that after i cut them both off all i have put on was the marker socket and the three wires that i have for the turn socket are just dangling near the bumper.

[J Knight]

I honestly dont know how to explain this anymore without being there and seeing what you are working with.

[cmyc5575]

Originally Posted by J Knight

I honestly dont know how to explain this anymore without being there.

Lol sorry man, My friends always give me a hard time about being hard headed. Ok let me ask this, Just having the marker socket hooked up and leaving the three turn signal wires not connected cause this issue?

[J Knight]

EDIT: Actually I think it would.

[cmyc5575]

Originally Posted by J Knight

EDIT: Actually I think it would.

Lol we'll I got it home and hooked up the turn signal light and now it's working with only one issue now. The driver side wants to stay solid when I turn the lights on. But the signals work correctly. What is causing that?
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[J Knight]

If I understand you correctly, you connected the park light power and the blinker power backwards. I think you need to switch them.

[cmyc5575]

Originally Posted by J Knight

If I understand you correctly, you connected the park light power and the blinker power backwards. I think you need to switch them.

On the turn socket or the marker socket?
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[J Knight]

The turn socket.

[cmyc5575]

Originally Posted by J Knight

The turn socket.

I ended up switch them and would still light up but then wouldn't signal
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[zaccaglin]

Originally Posted by cmyc5575

I ended up switch them and would still light up but then wouldn't signal
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Sounds like you have a ground and hot reversed for the marker. Basically when you hit the blinker it's hot is hitting the hot from the marker light instead of ground. Have you blown any fuses?
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[cmyc5575]

Originally Posted by zaccaglin

Sounds like you have a ground and hot reversed for the marker. Basically when you hit the blinker it's hot is hitting the hot from the marker light instead of ground. Have you blown any fuses?
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I honestly haven't checked that yet. I will tomorrow and see what it is.
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[BLE 'BURBAN]

Originally Posted by cmyc5575

My Harness= One blue and one Brown

Replacement marker socket= One brown and one black

I havent wired the turn signal socket yet. How does the test light work? Sorry real new to all this.

Your side marker light isn't grounded in the traditional sence. True, you do have 2 leads going to it and they are BROWN = PARKING LIGHT CIRCUIT & BLUE = TURN SIGNAL CIRCUIT.
If you look at your marker light on the right side with the lights on and the right turn signal activated, you will see that the side marker flashes alternatingly with the front facing turn signal.

You can test your new socket with a bulb in it to find which lead is the park lead and which is the turn lead.
Touch the ground lead to the negative side of the battery then touch one of the other leads to the positive terminal and note how bright the bulb is.
Now release the lead on the positive and touch the other wire to it, again noting the brightness of the bulb.
The brighter lead is the turn and should be connected to the blue wire from the truck and the other(dimmer lead) to the brown wire on the truck and of course ground to the black wire on the truck.

[cmyc5575]

Originally Posted by BLE 'BURBAN

Your side marker light isn't grounded in the traditional sence. True, you do have 2 leads going to it and they are BROWN = PARKING LIGHT CIRCUIT & BLUE = TURN SIGNAL CIRCUIT.
If you look at your marker light on the right side with the lights on and the right turn signal activated, you will see that the side marker flashes alternatingly with the front facing turn signal.

You can test your new socket with a bulb in it to find which lead is the park lead and which is the turn lead.
Touch the ground lead to the negative side of the battery then touch one of the other leads to the positive terminal and note how bright the bulb is.
Now release the lead on the positive and touch the other wire to it, again noting the brightness of the bulb.
The brighter lead is the turn and should be connected to the blue wire from the truck and the other(dimmer lead) to the brown wire on the truck and of course ground to the black wire on the truck.

Ok I managed to get it working but still can't figure out why when my lights are on the turn signal is staying solid. The turn signal works tho.
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[BLE 'BURBAN]

Originally Posted by cmyc5575

Ok I managed to get it working but still can't figure out why when my lights are on the turn signal is staying solid. The turn signal works tho.
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Check your bulbs Front and rear. MAke sure they are both the same part #.
I once upgraded the tail light bulbs in my old 74 cutlass from 1n 1157 to an 2057 and they wouldn't flash. I changed out the front 1157NA (NA = Natural Amber) to a 2057NA and WALLA they worked great!!!!!

Also double check all grounds front AND rear.

Also have you checked it out with your hazards? Maybe try swapping the flashers around between your turn and hazzards. Worth a try....

[cmyc5575]

Originally Posted by BLE 'BURBAN

Check your bulbs Front and rear. MAke sure they are both the same part #.
I once upgraded the tail light bulbs in my old 74 cutlass from 1n 1157 to an 2057 and they wouldn't flash. I changed out the front 1157NA (NA = Natural Amber) to a 2057NA and WALLA they worked great!!!!!

Also double check all grounds front AND rear.

Also have you checked it out with your hazards? Maybe try swapping the flashers around between your turn and hazzards. Worth a try....

Ok, I asked my dad for some assistance with the lights. He told me that the reason why the turn singal stays solid when I turn on the head lights is it made to do that for this year and then he told me that it may be my passenger side turn singal socket and may want to check it out. So guess what, he was right one of the bulb contacts had corroded on the passenger side and was perventing it from not lighting it up when the head lights are turned on so I went to orileys and got it replaced and now they are working correctly. I DIDNT THINK THAT MY YEAR TURN SINGALS WERE SUPPOSE TO STAY SOLID WHEN THE HEAD LIGHTS CAME ON IF THIS WAS THE CASE I WOULD HAD TO HAVE WORRIED ABOUT THE STRESS LOL.

[BLE 'BURBAN]

Originally Posted by cmyc5575

Ok, I asked my dad for some assistance with the lights. He told me that the reason why the turn singal stays solid when I turn on the head lights is it made to do that for this year and then he told me that it may be my passenger side turn singal socket and may want to check it out. So guess what, he was right one of the bulb contacts had corroded on the passenger side and was perventing it from not lighting it up when the head lights are turned on so I went to orileys and got it replaced and now they are working correctly. I DIDNT THINK THAT MY YEAR TURN SINGALS WERE SUPPOSE TO STAY SOLID WHEN THE HEAD LIGHTS CAME ON IF THIS WAS THE CASE I WOULD HAD TO HAVE WORRIED ABOUT THE STRESS LOL.

WHO-DA-THUNK-IT!?

[cmyc5575]

Originally Posted by BLE 'BURBAN

WHO-DA-THUNK-IT!?

Lol even tho I was feeling accomplished for doing my first somewhat wire job I was alil pissed about it bc it was sooooo simple.