73-87 idler arm on 65 - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**65truckowner** · 12-23-2012, 07:28 PM

I have looked in the faq section and can not find out about the idler arm I swapped the front end out of a 83 chevy truck to my 65 and everything worked great but the idler arm on the passenger side is different than the orginal. Do I drill new holes in the frame or is there a different idler arm I use?

64-454ss · 12-23-2012, 08:19 PM

I used the newer idler arm on mine. Just drilled the holes in frame and was ready to rock.
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Tx Firefighter · 12-23-2012, 08:41 PM

Drill it.

Use a C clamp to get the center link level and straight then mark and drill the two holes.

Reyals Bemus · 12-23-2012, 08:47 PM

I've always wanted to know why the idler arms are shorter than the pitman arms from center to center by about 1/4". Also, why are all the later model 73-87' pitman arms and idler arms another 1/4" longer than the earlier stuff? Its weird geometrically.

**65truckowner** · 12-23-2012, 09:59 PM

The one from the 83 will fit up closer to the bumper that than the original one is this right? It is more of an angle and the original was straghter up and down.

**65truckowner** · 12-23-2012, 10:13 PM

Anyone have a picture of theres redrilled?

Ta2Don · 12-23-2012, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 65truckowner

Anyone have a picture of theres redrilled?

Here's a pic of mine... If you need a better pic I can get one tomorrow.
Hope it Helps, Merry CHRISTmas!

**65truckowner** · 12-23-2012, 11:19 PM

Perfect shot. That is what I needed. I was trying to put it the other way which was backwards. Looks like you used the bottom hole of the original one and drilled the top one. Thanks.

63sbssbbw · 12-24-2012, 08:27 AM

mine

**65truckowner** · 12-24-2012, 12:49 PM

If it is not to much trouble could you get a picture of the other side. I am having trouble getting it straight with the steering box. Thanks

Ta2Don · 12-24-2012, 02:51 PM

Try again...

stsalvage · 12-26-2012, 04:20 PM

one thing i'm not seeing them tell you about is there are dimples in the frame that move it out by a 1/2 of inch should really look at the newer frames to see the lumps in the frame to push the idler arm away from the frame

**65truckowner** · 12-26-2012, 06:32 PM

I now have it all bolted up and ready to go. Thanks for the pictures and comments. One thing I did notice was the power steering box is leaking from the bottom seal how hard is the seal to change?

Tx Firefighter · 12-26-2012, 07:01 PM

To replace the seal, you need to remove the pitman arm and the snap ring that retains the seal. From bottom to top, you'll have a snap ring, washer, seal, washer, and seal. All in that order. The new seal kit will come with both seals, both washers, and a snap ring. Here are pictures of the last one I rebuilt. Don't worry about the fact that I took my box completely apart. That's not important for this job and the seal can be changed without doing any of that.

Honestly, the easiest method by far is to remove the snap ring and put a drain pan under the steering box. Then, start the engine and cycle the steering wheel lock to lock. That will blow the seals out and it they should land in the drain pan. Re-install the new parts in the proper order using a piece of pipe or PVC and a mallet to drive them up into place.

12-23-2012, 07:28 PM	#1
65truckowner Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: mountain view arkansas Posts: 1,305	73-87 idler arm on 65 I have looked in the faq section and can not find out about the idler arm I swapped the front end out of a 83 chevy truck to my 65 and everything worked great but the idler arm on the passenger side is different than the orginal. Do I drill new holes in the frame or is there a different idler arm I use? __________________ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548705

12-23-2012, 08:19 PM	#2
64-454ss Registered User Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Escalon, Ca Posts: 63	Re: 73-87 idler arm on 65 I used the newer idler arm on mine. Just drilled the holes in frame and was ready to rock. Posted via Mobile Device

12-23-2012, 08:41 PM	#3
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Re: 73-87 idler arm on 65 Drill it. Use a C clamp to get the center link level and straight then mark and drill the two holes.

12-23-2012, 08:47 PM	#4
Reyals Bemus Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Billerica, MA Posts: 329	Re: 73-87 idler arm on 65 I've always wanted to know why the idler arms are shorter than the pitman arms from center to center by about 1/4". Also, why are all the later model 73-87' pitman arms and idler arms another 1/4" longer than the earlier stuff? Its weird geometrically.

12-23-2012, 09:59 PM	#5
65truckowner Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: mountain view arkansas Posts: 1,305	Re: 73-87 idler arm on 65 The one from the 83 will fit up closer to the bumper that than the original one is this right? It is more of an angle and the original was straghter up and down. __________________ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548705

12-23-2012, 10:13 PM	#6
65truckowner Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: mountain view arkansas Posts: 1,305	Re: 73-87 idler arm on 65 Anyone have a picture of theres redrilled? __________________ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548705

12-23-2012, 11:19 PM	#8
65truckowner Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: mountain view arkansas Posts: 1,305	Re: 73-87 idler arm on 65 Perfect shot. That is what I needed. I was trying to put it the other way which was backwards. Looks like you used the bottom hole of the original one and drilled the top one. Thanks. __________________ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548705

12-24-2012, 08:27 AM	#9
63sbssbbw UCA63 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Lloydminster AB Can. Posts: 1,637	Re: 73-87 idler arm on 65 mine Attached Images __________________ member#7816 "63 sb ss bbw 350\350 12 bolt rear Pwr Fr Disc PS tilt '61 GMC in progress '63 GMC to use for parts '90 Chevy Ext cab sbfs 5.7l (current d d)

12-24-2012, 12:49 PM	#10
65truckowner Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: mountain view arkansas Posts: 1,305	Re: 73-87 idler arm on 65 If it is not to much trouble could you get a picture of the other side. I am having trouble getting it straight with the steering box. Thanks __________________ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548705

12-24-2012, 02:51 PM	#11
Ta2Don Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Searcy, AR Posts: 4,203	Re: 73-87 idler arm on 65 Try again... Attached Images __________________ DON Proverbs 27:17 US Air Force Retarded errr Retired My '65 Stepper Build:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=533920 My '60 Rusty Patina Build:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...66#post7402266 My '72 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...59#post7204359 SOLD

12-26-2012, 04:20 PM	#12
stsalvage Scrapper 1 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Riverside Calif Posts: 1,649	Re: 73-87 idler arm on 65 one thing i'm not seeing them tell you about is there are dimples in the frame that move it out by a 1/2 of inch should really look at the newer frames to see the lumps in the frame to push the idler arm away from the frame

12-26-2012, 06:32 PM	#13
65truckowner Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: mountain view arkansas Posts: 1,305	Re: 73-87 idler arm on 65 I now have it all bolted up and ready to go. Thanks for the pictures and comments. One thing I did notice was the power steering box is leaking from the bottom seal how hard is the seal to change? __________________ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548705

12-26-2012, 07:01 PM	#14
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Re: 73-87 idler arm on 65 To replace the seal, you need to remove the pitman arm and the snap ring that retains the seal. From bottom to top, you'll have a snap ring, washer, seal, washer, and seal. All in that order. The new seal kit will come with both seals, both washers, and a snap ring. Here are pictures of the last one I rebuilt. Don't worry about the fact that I took my box completely apart. That's not important for this job and the seal can be changed without doing any of that. Honestly, the easiest method by far is to remove the snap ring and put a drain pan under the steering box. Then, start the engine and cycle the steering wheel lock to lock. That will blow the seals out and it they should land in the drain pan. Re-install the new parts in the proper order using a piece of pipe or PVC and a mallet to drive them up into place.



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