The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1947 - 1959 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-27-2012, 10:52 PM   #1
AZ59apacheguy
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 431
Oil Filter Canister question

So I think I'm going old school with an oil filter setup on my 283 with the canister style filtration. Is there a gasket that goes between the bypass to engine block? I know someone who's got a complete assembly for sale, but it looks like it is missing that gasket. I know there is supposed to be a gasket that goes between the Canister Housing to Engine Block, I just don't know if there is supposed to be one between the Bypass to Engine Block. If there is where can I get one. My internet search only turned up a info on modern spin on filter adapter assemblies. Thanks for your time.
AZ59apacheguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 11:08 AM   #2
mr48chev
Registered User
 
mr48chev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Toppenish, WA
Posts: 15,705
Re: Oil Filter Canister question

There is no gasket between the bypass and the block that I know of. The gasket/washer or what ever you want to call it around the bolt in the housing is prone to leak after a while and make sure you have the old gasket out of the block before putting the new one that comes with the filter in.
__________________
Founding member of the too many projects, too little time and money club.

My ongoing truck projects:
48 Chev 3100 that will run a 292 Six.
71 GMC 2500 that is getting a Cad 500 transplant.
77 C 30 dualie, 454, 4 speed with a 10 foot flatbed and hoist. It does the heavy work and hauls the projects around.
mr48chev is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 11:50 AM   #3
AZ59apacheguy
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 431
Re: Oil Filter Canister question

Thanks for the response, appreciate the help
AZ59apacheguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 07:39 PM   #4
Red Foreman
Registered User
 
Red Foreman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 549
Re: Oil Filter Canister question

What mr48chev said is correct.
__________________
RIP John (Lambis), my beloved Father & best Friend.

My Build 56 GMC
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=486721
Red Foreman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2012, 02:17 PM   #5
solidaxel
Registered User
 
solidaxel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Cactus Patch So. Az
Posts: 4,749
Re: Oil Filter Canister question

Have you thought about changing it over to a spin on filter?
__________________
53 TuTone Extended Cab 350 4-Spd 3:08 (SOLD)
53 Chevy Moldy pearl green ZZ-4 4L60E 9" 3:25
55 GMC 1st Black Mll (ZZ4) ZZ6 TKO 600 5 sp 3:73
62 Solidaxle Corvette Roman Red (327
340hp 4spd 3:36) C4 & C5 suspension tube chassis
LS 3 4L70E
65 Corvette Coupe 327 350hp 4spd 4:11
78 Black Silverado SWB (350/350) 5.3 & 4L60E 3:42
2000 S-Type 3.0 (wife cruiser)
2003 GMC SCSB 5.3 4L60E 3:42
solidaxel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2012, 03:56 PM   #6
AZ59apacheguy
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 431
Re: Oil Filter Canister question

Quote:
Originally Posted by solidaxel View Post
Have you thought about changing it over to a spin on filter?
I do but I'm a little confused on which one to get. The 283 long block I bought did not come with the stock bypass valve. I'm new to old Chevy's, can you point me in the right direction?
AZ59apacheguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2012, 06:50 PM   #7
solidaxel
Registered User
 
solidaxel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Cactus Patch So. Az
Posts: 4,749
Re: Oil Filter Canister question

I think there is only one adapter for the small block V8, any of the Chevy dealers will have one, as the new crate short or long blocks do not come with them.
Just make sure the old gaskets are removed before you install the adapter.
Two bolts and a new spin on filter you will love it!
__________________
53 TuTone Extended Cab 350 4-Spd 3:08 (SOLD)
53 Chevy Moldy pearl green ZZ-4 4L60E 9" 3:25
55 GMC 1st Black Mll (ZZ4) ZZ6 TKO 600 5 sp 3:73
62 Solidaxle Corvette Roman Red (327
340hp 4spd 3:36) C4 & C5 suspension tube chassis
LS 3 4L70E
65 Corvette Coupe 327 350hp 4spd 4:11
78 Black Silverado SWB (350/350) 5.3 & 4L60E 3:42
2000 S-Type 3.0 (wife cruiser)
2003 GMC SCSB 5.3 4L60E 3:42
solidaxel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2012, 07:09 PM   #8
mr48chev
Registered User
 
mr48chev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Toppenish, WA
Posts: 15,705
Re: Oil Filter Canister question

Quote:
Originally Posted by AZ59apacheguy View Post
I do but I'm a little confused on which one to get. The 283 long block I bought did not come with the stock bypass valve. I'm new to old Chevy's, can you point me in the right direction?
That particular bypass valve only comes on the engines with the
the canister filter and you still have to have on the engine if you put a spin on adapter on the engine. It has to be there to back up the adapter and also because the adapter doesn't have a check valve in it.

It takes one that looks like this one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Corvette-Oil...f4f946&vxp=mtr

I think you should be able to come up with one for a lot less than that though.
__________________
Founding member of the too many projects, too little time and money club.

My ongoing truck projects:
48 Chev 3100 that will run a 292 Six.
71 GMC 2500 that is getting a Cad 500 transplant.
77 C 30 dualie, 454, 4 speed with a 10 foot flatbed and hoist. It does the heavy work and hauls the projects around.
mr48chev is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2012, 07:35 PM   #9
solidaxel
Registered User
 
solidaxel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Cactus Patch So. Az
Posts: 4,749
Re: Oil Filter Canister question

mr48 I don't think that is the one I am familiar with.
I usually get mine from the junk yard, remove the spin on filter and un bolt the adapter!
__________________
53 TuTone Extended Cab 350 4-Spd 3:08 (SOLD)
53 Chevy Moldy pearl green ZZ-4 4L60E 9" 3:25
55 GMC 1st Black Mll (ZZ4) ZZ6 TKO 600 5 sp 3:73
62 Solidaxle Corvette Roman Red (327
340hp 4spd 3:36) C4 & C5 suspension tube chassis
LS 3 4L70E
65 Corvette Coupe 327 350hp 4spd 4:11
78 Black Silverado SWB (350/350) 5.3 & 4L60E 3:42
2000 S-Type 3.0 (wife cruiser)
2003 GMC SCSB 5.3 4L60E 3:42
solidaxel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2012, 10:55 PM   #10
mr48chev
Registered User
 
mr48chev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Toppenish, WA
Posts: 15,705
Re: Oil Filter Canister question

Quote:
Originally Posted by solidaxel View Post
mr48 I don't think that is the one I am familiar with.
I usually get mine from the junk yard, remove the spin on filter and un bolt the adapter!
I've never tried that with an early block and didn't think using a later spin on adapter/bypass valve would work.
The valve in the link isn't and adapter but the check valve that the canister filter butts up against when you run the early blocks and canister oil filters.

Here is a link to a very greasy bypass valve and two canisters http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-OIL-FILTER...ac88f8&vxp=mtr
price is right though.

If you don't use that bypass valve under this adapter

You end up collapsing the center of the adapter when you tighten the bolts and eventually crack the adapter along with not filtering the oil correctly.
__________________
Founding member of the too many projects, too little time and money club.

My ongoing truck projects:
48 Chev 3100 that will run a 292 Six.
71 GMC 2500 that is getting a Cad 500 transplant.
77 C 30 dualie, 454, 4 speed with a 10 foot flatbed and hoist. It does the heavy work and hauls the projects around.
mr48chev is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2012, 11:05 PM   #11
AZ59apacheguy
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 431
Re: Oil Filter Canister question

Quote:
Originally Posted by mr48chev View Post
I've never tried that with an early block and didn't think using a later spin on adapter/bypass valve would work.
The valve in the link isn't and adapter but the check valve that the canister filter butts up against when you run the early blocks and canister oil filters.

Here is a link to a very greasy bypass valve and two canisters http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-OIL-FILTER...ac88f8&vxp=mtr
price is right though.

If you don't use that bypass valve under this adapter

You end up collapsing the center of the adapter when you tighten the bolts and eventually crack the adapter along with not filtering the oil correctly.
Hi. Thanks for the replay. I did see that auction earlier today, I was concerned when the seller said the bypass was not in the best condition. How about this type, it's by Fram:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/200859070902...84.m1423.l2649

Looks good to me, anyone have this?
AZ59apacheguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2012, 11:06 PM   #12
mr48chev
Registered User
 
mr48chev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Toppenish, WA
Posts: 15,705
Re: Oil Filter Canister question

That is the same one I have in the listing below at a better price.

If anyone wants to change a canister filter to a spin on setup I'd highly suggest using this adapter. http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...0538&ppt=C0119 It has the built in bypass valve unlike the one I posted the photo of. A whole lot less mfooney than the rip off guys want on Ebay for a Wix one similar to the other one too.
__________________
Founding member of the too many projects, too little time and money club.

My ongoing truck projects:
48 Chev 3100 that will run a 292 Six.
71 GMC 2500 that is getting a Cad 500 transplant.
77 C 30 dualie, 454, 4 speed with a 10 foot flatbed and hoist. It does the heavy work and hauls the projects around.

Last edited by mr48chev; 12-30-2012 at 11:12 PM.
mr48chev is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2012, 12:46 AM   #13
OrrieG
Registered User
 
OrrieG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Idaho
Posts: 8,800
Re: Oil Filter Canister question

I've used the Fram ones on a bunch of engines without problems. When I worked in a service station in the 70's I remember quite a few cannister small blocks coming in for oil changes with two gaskets leaking like crazy. I was a hero for solving the mystery oil leak.
__________________
1959 Chevy Short Fleetside w/ 74 4WD drive train (current project) OrrieG Build Thread
1964 Chevelle Malibu w/ 355-350TH (daily driver)
Helpful AD and TF Manual Site Old Car Manual Project
OrrieG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2012, 01:43 AM   #14
AZ59apacheguy
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 431
Re: Oil Filter Canister question

Thanks for the advice. I have the Fram oil adapter coming in tomorrow morning from my local Oreilly's. Thanks again
AZ59apacheguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:27 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com