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vdubbles24 · 01-22-2013, 02:49 AM

Total newb to C10s. I've built S10s and my personal favorite air cooled volkswagens. I found this C10 and got it for a steal. I have many many questions I hope you all can help. My motto is "you'll never learn if ya don't try". So I'm gonna try to give this truck another chance at life.

I can weld and I think I'm pretty good at fabricating. Not scared to try nothing new with metal. I just like to study and know my task before attempt it.

Chopped and channeled. Had bags at one point front only is what I was told. I dig it. I feel it needs another chance.

I posted a small bit in suspension section as well

Few questions.

Can anyone help me be 100% sure the year. I did my own research. I found it to be a 71'. I just wanna be sure before I start the title process.

I wanna build this truck to a daily driver status. Static drop, maybe bags. We'll see. I'm lookin for straight 6 with the classic 3spd. I know I know I'll prolly catch some slack. But oh well. I wanna keep rear coil over as well.

So all this said people please give me some guidance.

Thanks
Brandon
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vdubbles24 · 01-22-2013, 03:29 AM

I need all front suspension. I mean all. What years will fit, so I know when I go pilfering through local junk yards.

Thanks
Brandon
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**Ironangel** · 01-22-2013, 03:53 AM

IMO You got one hell of a find right there! A chopped top is the "Holy Grail" of customizing options for these trucks! That things already been shaved too! Kudos to you my friend! You have my dream project! Find a junk 72 with power brakes and if it still has the 12 bolt snag it too! If I may be so bold, what did you give for it? Go ahead, run the blade right through my heart! Somebody will chime in with facts...I'd only be guessing on what bolts on and what doesn't...I rebuilt my 72 for tried and proven speed and handling...I installed 2-1/2" drop spindles with 2" drop springs up front and added an inverted mounted 1-1/4" Sway Bar. 4" drop springs out back with a 12 bolt 3:08 Posi and it drives like a Camaro! Welcome to the forum Brandon!

vdubbles24 · 01-22-2013, 04:01 AM

I will be straight with ya! I traded a .22 rifle for it. I had $75 in rifle and spent $75 in gas. So right now I'm at $150 and it's settin at my house.

Is a chop complicated on these? I done one on a 66' beetle, they say there the hardest to chop.

Anyhow it's pretty cool. Like I said chopped and channeled. Guy said it was channeled 2" I don't know how much on chop.

Here is a pic of the 66' beetle I chopped and made a volksrod truck out of.

Any body confirm year of my new C10?
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Littletony · 01-22-2013, 04:20 AM

Looks like a 71 GMC from my break down.
C= 2 wheel drive
E= V8
1= 1/2 ton
34= 70-71 Fleetside
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S= St. Louis build plant
1= 1971
22661= vehicle number

vdubbles24 · 01-22-2013, 04:27 AM

What part makes it a GMC? Just curious.
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**Ironangel** · 01-22-2013, 04:32 AM

Your KILLIN ME! With a .22 rifle! For me, laying out, cutting and welding would be the easy non-expensive part of "chopping"...Getting the glass to fit would be the nightmare, "for me"...Ive been a union Ironworker/welder for 35 years...I replaced both rocker panels, cab corners, both floor pans, two inner fenders and the right fender...Oh, I rebuilt the radiator core support and battery tray as well. My motto is "no bondo"...Dont you even dream of selling that truck unless you contact me first! Please! That VW looks damn good! Loose the hood and some sheet metal up front,replace it with a little small block. Throw a short axled S-10 rear end under it and "BOOM!" You got rippin little rat rod that looks like a Chopped 52 Chevy pick-up!

Littletony · 01-22-2013, 04:36 AM

If it was a Chevy the vin would start with CC, since yours has one C it is a GMC.

vdubbles24 · 01-22-2013, 05:58 AM

Thanks for the kudos iron angel.

Littletony thanks for takin time to dbl check the vin.

Thanks
Brandon
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sanford&daughter · 01-22-2013, 07:03 AM

Welcome to the forums, you have 67/68 fenders keep that in mind when you looking for a grill and hood the 69/72 are different

5150 · 01-22-2013, 07:11 AM

Sweet deal, I'd find another cab if it was mine, but I think they ruin these trucks when they chop them. It's yours though and it's an awesome start for what you have in it.

vdubbles24 · 01-22-2013, 07:14 AM

I'm lookin at a complete running, daily driven 67' Lwb.

Drive it home $800

All sheet metal will be safe. I'm gonna use hood and grill on mine. Possibly swap out radiator support. Mine has been channeled. I could swap it at just drop frame horns.

Keep you alls eyes open. If deal goes through I'll have a 67' to part out in here.
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vdubbles24 · 01-22-2013, 07:19 AM

I'd have to swap out all metal. They cut from headlight to taillight and remove 2" from body line.
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vdubbles24 · 01-22-2013, 08:25 AM

Chop looks great but needs a new roof skin. Whoever did the chop pour the heat when they welded it back up. A good amount of warpage on roof.
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Andy4639 · 01-22-2013, 08:40 AM

Nice find you found. It already laying frame to! I would start by getting that frame off the ground though!

Towstrap · 01-22-2013, 09:28 AM

I've been looking at this chopped cab down the road from me needs a lot of work but I want to make it into a mini full size for my mud bogger but good fine wish I could have came across it too would be great for my project
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midniteblues · 01-22-2013, 09:41 AM

wow! that looks like a project cudo's too you for takeing it on.
I was looking at the inner door, tailgate,firewall and lower tail lite hole thinking wtf??? somethings off there

. 2" out of the whole body HUH' that certainly will be differnt.
I gotta ask is it not sitting on the frame correctly? it looks to be sticking too far out the front and the rear arches dont line up with the wheel wells?

Oh and welcome aboard I'm anticipateing what you do with this truck by the looks of the bug the truck will be a wild lookin build.
lookin forward to more of it.

70blackfish · 01-22-2013, 10:44 AM

you did very well, take pictures along the way. parts for these trucks are pretty easy to come by,

lot of good vendors on this board as well..

**LockDoc** · 01-22-2013, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by vdubbles24

I'd have to swap out all metal. They cut from headlight to taillight and remove 2" from body line.
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That is called "sectioning" and it is not necessarily a bad thing. As long as it is chopped anyway I would just go with it. It makes them look really low with a static drop. It looks like they did a nice job on the sectioning and chop. Just build it the way it is...

LockDoc

YBNORML · 01-22-2013, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc

That is called "sectioning" and it is not necessarily a bad thing. As long as it is chopped anyway I would just go with it. It makes them look really low with a static drop. It looks like they did a nice job on the sectioning and chop. Just build it the way it is...

LockDoc

I agree, I would just try to start assembling as is. It will probably a major pain, but the finished product will be worth it!

**70cst** · 01-22-2013, 06:37 PM

Hey vdubbles24 ...

to the forums and

from Ohio

as that is one

project.

Keep us posted on your progress

Kevjulian · 01-22-2013, 07:31 PM

I think I remember seeing it on craigslist. Is that how you got it?

Kev.

vdubbles24 · 01-22-2013, 08:07 PM

It's gonna be a long slow build. I gotta find a lot if parts. It's gonna be fun. I plan on posting and keep it current as I can.

Yes I found it on CL. Dude that had it was really cool. I'm happy with it. I wanna a slammed C10 but I couldn't do it to one in good shape. Someone else molested this so in dont feel bad about adding my own touches to it.

What's the difference between channeling and sectioning? Just curious

Thanks
Brandon
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**RenoKeene** · 01-22-2013, 08:16 PM

Welcome aboard from Central Florida.
Going to be a loooooooot of work but could be very cool.

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**LockDoc** · 01-22-2013, 08:18 PM

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Channeling is dropping the body down over the frame and sectioning is what you have with the 2" removed the length of the body. If it was channeled there would be a step in the floorboard the depth of what ever the channel drop was.

LockDoc

01-22-2013, 02:49 AM	#1
vdubbles24 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Grandview Indiana Posts: 28	Total newb, found a chopped and channel forgotten project. Total newb to C10s. I've built S10s and my personal favorite air cooled volkswagens. I found this C10 and got it for a steal. I have many many questions I hope you all can help. My motto is "you'll never learn if ya don't try". So I'm gonna try to give this truck another chance at life. I can weld and I think I'm pretty good at fabricating. Not scared to try nothing new with metal. I just like to study and know my task before attempt it. Chopped and channeled. Had bags at one point front only is what I was told. I dig it. I feel it needs another chance. I posted a small bit in suspension section as well Few questions. Can anyone help me be 100% sure the year. I did my own research. I found it to be a 71'. I just wanna be sure before I start the title process. I wanna build this truck to a daily driver status. Static drop, maybe bags. We'll see. I'm lookin for straight 6 with the classic 3spd. I know I know I'll prolly catch some slack. But oh well. I wanna keep rear coil over as well. So all this said people please give me some guidance. Thanks Brandon Posted via Mobile Device

01-22-2013, 03:29 AM	#2
vdubbles24 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Grandview Indiana Posts: 28	Re: Total newb, found a chopped and channel forgotten project. I need all front suspension. I mean all. What years will fit, so I know when I go pilfering through local junk yards. Thanks Brandon Posted via Mobile Device

01-22-2013, 03:53 AM	#3
Ironangel Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Falls City, Nebraska "100 Miles From Nowhere" Posts: 2,219	Re: Total newb, found a chopped and channel forgotten project. IMO You got one hell of a find right there! A chopped top is the "Holy Grail" of customizing options for these trucks! That things already been shaved too! Kudos to you my friend! You have my dream project! Find a junk 72 with power brakes and if it still has the 12 bolt snag it too! If I may be so bold, what did you give for it? Go ahead, run the blade right through my heart! Somebody will chime in with facts...I'd only be guessing on what bolts on and what doesn't...I rebuilt my 72 for tried and proven speed and handling...I installed 2-1/2" drop spindles with 2" drop springs up front and added an inverted mounted 1-1/4" Sway Bar. 4" drop springs out back with a 12 bolt 3:08 Posi and it drives like a Camaro! Welcome to the forum Brandon! __________________ Michael of the clan Hill, "Two Seventy Two's" 71 1-ton Dually 350 4-Speed 71 C/50 Grain Truck, 350 Split-Axle 4-Speed 02 3/4 ton Express 14 Indian Chief Vintage 1952 Ford 8N, "Only Ford Allowed On The Property" "Be American, Buy American" Last edited by Ironangel; 01-22-2013 at 04:03 AM.

01-22-2013, 04:01 AM	#4
vdubbles24 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Grandview Indiana Posts: 28	Re: Total newb, found a chopped and channel forgotten project. I will be straight with ya! I traded a .22 rifle for it. I had $75 in rifle and spent $75 in gas. So right now I'm at $150 and it's settin at my house. Is a chop complicated on these? I done one on a 66' beetle, they say there the hardest to chop. Anyhow it's pretty cool. Like I said chopped and channeled. Guy said it was channeled 2" I don't know how much on chop. Here is a pic of the 66' beetle I chopped and made a volksrod truck out of. Any body confirm year of my new C10? Posted via Mobile Device

01-22-2013, 04:20 AM	#5
Littletony Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Jacksonville, NC Posts: 596	Re: Total newb, found a chopped and channel forgotten project. Looks like a 71 GMC from my break down. C= 2 wheel drive E= V8 1= 1/2 ton 34= 70-71 Fleetside - S= St. Louis build plant 1= 1971 22661= vehicle number __________________ "Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem." President Ronald Reagan,1985 "The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps!" ..............Eleanor Roosevelt, 1945

01-22-2013, 04:27 AM	#6
vdubbles24 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Grandview Indiana Posts: 28	Re: Total newb, found a chopped and channel forgotten project. What part makes it a GMC? Just curious. Posted via Mobile Device

01-22-2013, 04:32 AM	#7
Ironangel Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Falls City, Nebraska "100 Miles From Nowhere" Posts: 2,219	Re: Total newb, found a chopped and channel forgotten project. Your KILLIN ME! With a .22 rifle! For me, laying out, cutting and welding would be the easy non-expensive part of "chopping"...Getting the glass to fit would be the nightmare, "for me"...Ive been a union Ironworker/welder for 35 years...I replaced both rocker panels, cab corners, both floor pans, two inner fenders and the right fender...Oh, I rebuilt the radiator core support and battery tray as well. My motto is "no bondo"...Dont you even dream of selling that truck unless you contact me first! Please! That VW looks damn good! Loose the hood and some sheet metal up front,replace it with a little small block. Throw a short axled S-10 rear end under it and "BOOM!" You got rippin little rat rod that looks like a Chopped 52 Chevy pick-up! __________________ Michael of the clan Hill, "Two Seventy Two's" 71 1-ton Dually 350 4-Speed 71 C/50 Grain Truck, 350 Split-Axle 4-Speed 02 3/4 ton Express 14 Indian Chief Vintage 1952 Ford 8N, "Only Ford Allowed On The Property" "Be American, Buy American"

01-22-2013, 04:36 AM	#8
Littletony Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Jacksonville, NC Posts: 596	Re: Total newb, found a chopped and channel forgotten project. If it was a Chevy the vin would start with CC, since yours has one C it is a GMC. __________________ "Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem." President Ronald Reagan,1985 "The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps!" ..............Eleanor Roosevelt, 1945

01-22-2013, 05:58 AM	#9
vdubbles24 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Grandview Indiana Posts: 28	Re: Total newb, found a chopped and channel forgotten project. Thanks for the kudos iron angel. Littletony thanks for takin time to dbl check the vin. Thanks Brandon Posted via Mobile Device

01-22-2013, 07:03 AM	#10
sanford&daughter Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Upstate , New York Posts: 647	Re: Total newb, found a chopped and channel forgotten project. Welcome to the forums, you have 67/68 fenders keep that in mind when you looking for a grill and hood the 69/72 are different

01-22-2013, 07:11 AM	#11
5150 C10 Club Tennessee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: White House, TN 37188 Posts: 8,281	Re: Total newb, found a chopped and channel forgotten project. Sweet deal, I'd find another cab if it was mine, but I think they ruin these trucks when they chop them. It's yours though and it's an awesome start for what you have in it. __________________ Bryan www.gmtruckshow.com Project "Andes"-Halen's First Truck Project: Patina Burb for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Romans 13:4

01-22-2013, 07:14 AM	#12
vdubbles24 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Grandview Indiana Posts: 28	Re: Total newb, found a chopped and channel forgotten project. I'm lookin at a complete running, daily driven 67' Lwb. Drive it home $800 All sheet metal will be safe. I'm gonna use hood and grill on mine. Possibly swap out radiator support. Mine has been channeled. I could swap it at just drop frame horns. Keep you alls eyes open. If deal goes through I'll have a 67' to part out in here. Posted via Mobile Device

01-22-2013, 07:19 AM	#13
vdubbles24 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Grandview Indiana Posts: 28	Re: Total newb, found a chopped and channel forgotten project. I'd have to swap out all metal. They cut from headlight to taillight and remove 2" from body line. Posted via Mobile Device

01-22-2013, 08:25 AM	#14
vdubbles24 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Grandview Indiana Posts: 28	Re: Total newb, found a chopped and channel forgotten project. Chop looks great but needs a new roof skin. Whoever did the chop pour the heat when they welded it back up. A good amount of warpage on roof. Posted via Mobile Device

01-22-2013, 08:40 AM	#15
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,936	Re: Total newb, found a chopped and channel forgotten project. Nice find you found. It already laying frame to! I would start by getting that frame off the ground though! __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.



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01-22-2013, 09:28 AM	#16
Towstrap Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: davison Mich Posts: 247	Re: Total newb, found a chopped and channel forgotten project. I've been looking at this chopped cab down the road from me needs a lot of work but I want to make it into a mini full size for my mud bogger but good fine wish I could have came across it too would be great for my project Posted via Mobile Device

01-22-2013, 09:41 AM	#17
midniteblues Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: strausstown pa Posts: 3,394	Re: Total newb, found a chopped and channel forgotten project. wow! that looks like a project cudo's too you for takeing it on. I was looking at the inner door, tailgate,firewall and lower tail lite hole thinking wtf??? somethings off there. 2" out of the whole body HUH' that certainly will be differnt. I gotta ask is it not sitting on the frame correctly? it looks to be sticking too far out the front and the rear arches dont line up with the wheel wells? Oh and welcome aboard I'm anticipateing what you do with this truck by the looks of the bug the truck will be a wild lookin build. lookin forward to more of it. __________________ 81 camaro 355 4/spd 342 posi my first love. 67 swb step 454/4spd ott 373 posi 4/7 drop. 2000 s10 zr2 little blue truck that never gets stuck. '74 heald super bronc vt8. tecumseh powered moon rover.

01-22-2013, 10:44 AM	#18
70blackfish Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Newhall CA Posts: 1,195	Re: Total newb, found a chopped and channel forgotten project. you did very well, take pictures along the way. parts for these trucks are pretty easy to come by, lot of good vendors on this board as well.. Attached Images __________________ 69 SWB 780hp Hellcat powered, manual 6 speed, currie 9

01-22-2013, 06:37 PM	#21
70cst Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: New Madison, Ohio Posts: 21,365	Re: Total newb, found a chopped and channel forgotten project. Hey vdubbles24 ... to the forums and from Ohio as that is one project. Keep us posted on your progress __________________ A husband can be right...or...A husband can be happy. 67-72 Chevy and GMC Trucks...The Classic Truck for the Classic Folk. 1970 CST Two tone green, 402BB, 400 Automatic, Tach, Buckets, AC, AM-FM, Tilt, GM CB, GM 8 Tract, LWB, etc JOHN 17:3...The better side of "LIFE" Remember: Everyday is a good day...Some are just gooder!

01-22-2013, 07:31 PM	#22
Kevjulian Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Camby Indiana Posts: 10	Re: Total newb, found a chopped and channel forgotten project. I think I remember seeing it on craigslist. Is that how you got it? Kev.

01-22-2013, 08:07 PM	#23
vdubbles24 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Grandview Indiana Posts: 28	Re: Total newb, found a chopped and channel forgotten project. It's gonna be a long slow build. I gotta find a lot if parts. It's gonna be fun. I plan on posting and keep it current as I can. Yes I found it on CL. Dude that had it was really cool. I'm happy with it. I wanna a slammed C10 but I couldn't do it to one in good shape. Someone else molested this so in dont feel bad about adding my own touches to it. What's the difference between channeling and sectioning? Just curious Thanks Brandon Posted via Mobile Device

01-22-2013, 08:16 PM	#24
RenoKeene Florida Edition Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Fruitland Park, FL Posts: 4,025	Re: Total newb, found a chopped and channel forgotten project. Welcome aboard from Central Florida. Going to be a loooooooot of work but could be very cool. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 70 GMC Short Stepside "Rose"-An American Beauty: Factory 402/TH400, AM/FM, AC, Tilt, Tach, Buckets, Posi, PS, PB, 3-5 Drop, Complete Resto-Rod 67 C-20 Slant Back Wrecker "Mad Max" 67 C-10 Ratrod "Step-N-Wolf" 71 Serro Scotty Sportsman camper "Scotty" 97 LT1 Z28 "The Hornet" Link to more pics of "Rose" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...p?albumid=1684 Check out my "Cheap Tricks" thread and add to it if you can, lots of good info there. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=489394

01-22-2013, 08:18 PM	#25
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,465	Re: Total newb, found a chopped and channel forgotten project. - Channeling is dropping the body down over the frame and sectioning is what you have with the 2" removed the length of the body. If it was channeled there would be a step in the floorboard the depth of what ever the channel drop was. LockDoc __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

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