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six8burban · 02-06-2013, 12:05 AM

Guys i have some ?'s on invoice 293. I was quoted a flat fee of 1200.00 to install a vintage air system on a 1968 chevy sub that originally had no air. Now on invoice 295 page 3 i'm being charged again? I have several other issues with other items regarding labor hours. I'm not a 100% happy with the quality of a few things and the feeling of being way overcharged is something thats just hard to digest.

71swb4x4 · 02-06-2013, 12:12 AM

Wow those are some nice detailed invoices!!! A lot better than most people get.

What are your exact questions? If they quoted $1,200 for Vintage Air install with your OEM compressor, then yes I agree the extra $130 needs to be removed from the bill.

six8burban · 02-06-2013, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 71swb4x4

Wow those are some nice detailed invoices!!! A lot better than most people get.

What are your exact questions? If they quoted $1,200 for Vintage Air install with your OEM compressor, then yes I agree the extra $130 needs to be removed from the bill.

last pic i was charged extra $975.00 to finish & secure AC install and to finish other things that was paid for already in 1st pic (invoice 293 page 1)

Andy4639 · 02-06-2013, 12:39 AM

I wouldn't be paying them nothing until they corrected the bill. If you have proof of the $1200.00 quote then by all means go sit down and tell them to forget it.
$100.00 may let them slid if he gives me a honest answer, $900 ant going to happen no way!

Lee H · 02-06-2013, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by six8burban

last pic i was charged extra $975.00 to finish & secure AC install and to finish other things that was paid for already in 1st pic (invoice 293 page 1)

Looks like the AC things are NC on the $975 line? Looks like you are being charged $1,200 for the VA install plus some for incorporating non standard VA parts.
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PanelDeland · 02-06-2013, 10:35 AM

I see this a lot on here.Mostly it's with paint but the same tactic is used in many indutries.Always get a quote that is written with Itemized details of the work and quality of work.Make sure you have a copy of it and hold their feet to the fire.Many companies bid to get the job then start tacking fees etc on to make a profit.
I hope you can work this out but be careful.Once a mechanic has done work,most states allow for a mechanics lein on the vehicle if they are not paid.

six8burban · 02-06-2013, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee H

Looks like the AC things are NC on the $975 line? Looks like you are being charged $1,200 for the VA install plus some for incorporating non standard VA parts.
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RIGHT! its says (NC) but he's still billing me for 15 hours

71swb4x4 · 02-06-2013, 07:44 PM

I am reading it as he is charging you 15 hours to:
install inner and outer fenders on the right side
install keyless entry and push button start system
install dash lighting dimmer switch
install Dakota Digital cluster and bezel
Fire engine to test ignition systems

What was the shop owner's response when you asked them about the quality issues you have and the sections you feel you were overcharged on?

six8burban · 02-06-2013, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PanelDeland

I see this a lot on here.Mostly it's with paint but the same tactic is used in many indutries.Always get a quote that is written with Itemized details of the work and quality of work.Make sure you have a copy of it and hold their feet to the fire.Many companies bid to get the job then start tacking fees etc on to make a profit.
I hope you can work this out but be careful.Once a mechanic has done work,most states allow for a mechanics lein on the vehicle if they are not paid.

should i have a problem with the way this is cut to install center dash ac vent?

**too much stuff** · 02-06-2013, 07:47 PM

Wouldn't it make more sense to talk with the guy that made the bill out and did the work? If you feel you are being overcharged, have him explain it.

six8burban · 02-06-2013, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 71swb4x4

I am reading it as he is charging you 15 hours to:
install inner and outer fenders on the right side
install keyless entry and push button start system
install dash lighting dimmer switch
install Dakota Digital cluster and bezel
Fire engine to test ignition systems

What was the shop owner's response when you asked them about the quality issues you have and the sections you feel you were overcharged on?

i said to him i think im being double charged and im not happy with the bill, so now he's threating me with a title lein because we are @ a disagrement.

Lattimer · 02-06-2013, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by six8burban

should i have a problem with the way this is cut to install center dash ac vent?

Thats horrible.

68gmsee · 02-06-2013, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lattimer

Thats horrible.

I agree. He basically destroyed that dash and the value of your truck by buchtering that vent. To replace it, if you can find a decent uncut dash, will cost you at least $500 or more for labor alone. I'd file against him and take him to small claims court. Take lots of pics.

haysonj · 02-06-2013, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by six8burban

should i have a problem with the way this is cut to install center dash ac vent?

Take him to court that kind of crap is well worth the cost of a new dash which will cost way more than his $2000

six8burban · 02-06-2013, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lattimer

Thats horrible.

.....and i agree.... second story is he wants to charge me $230 to dye and install dash pad. I told him several times that the dash pad had to be installed pryor to everything being put back on dash. I was told that i wouldnt notice it (the ac vent cut) when the dash pad goes back on?

Lattimer · 02-06-2013, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by six8burban

.....and i agree.... second story is he wants to charge me $230 to dye and install dash pad. I told him several times that the dash pad had to be installed pryor to everything being put back on dash. I was told that i wouldnt notice it (the ac vent cut) when the dash pad goes back on?

You will definitely notice it if the vent is in the right spot. I just did that install on my truck a few weeks ago. There is a small gap between the vent and the dashpad where you should see painted metal.

67ChevyRedneck · 02-06-2013, 08:33 PM

I don't see anything wrong with it either. "N/C billed on 293" means that you were not charged for those things, they were billed under the invoice 293. 15 hours seems reasonable for the rest of the stuff on that list.

The only thing I see an issue with is the $130, but if you didn't mention you would be using a part not included in the VA kit, like a factory compressor, then I could see the extra $130. Did you install a 5.3 or something? I can't see using an old GM compressor compared to a new sanden the kits come with, unless you're using a modern GM engine.

I agree that the cut looks like complete ass. I would be pissed off about that. The kit COMES WITH A TEMPLATE!

69Rumbler · 02-06-2013, 08:33 PM

man i bee pissed off if i were you .. over charged and they messed up the dash .. take him to court for the cost of a new dash

67ChevyRedneck · 02-06-2013, 08:38 PM

Like so:

But it looks like he may be right, my dash pad appears to come right down to the top of the vent. Still doesn't excuse that crappy cut!

six8burban · 02-06-2013, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

I don't see anything wrong with it either. "N/C billed on 293" means that you were not charged for those things, they were billed under the invoice 293. 15 hours seems reasonable for the rest of the stuff on that list.

The only thing I see an issue with is the $130, but if you didn't mention you would be using a part not included in the VA kit, like a factory compressor, then I could see the extra $130. Did you install a 5.3 or something? I can't see using an old GM compressor compared to a new sanden the kits come with, unless you're using a modern GM engine.

I agree that the cut looks like complete ass. I would be pissed off about that. The kit COMES WITH A TEMPLATE!

yes a 6.0....ALSO on invoice 293(1st pic) i was billed 18.5 hours to install wiring harness, Digital cluster and wiring. So when you refer to "rest of stuff" it leaves 15 hours to install fender, dimmer switch? Push button start also on invoice 295 page 2 ( 4th pic)

67ChevyRedneck · 02-06-2013, 09:06 PM

Don't know... I have a 23" screen and I can still barely read them. I don't know what recourse you have. I do all my own crap so I don't have to deal with this kind of stuff!!! Best of luck with it, I hope you can work it out with them!

Lee H · 02-06-2013, 09:35 PM

That cut is horrible, you have some recourse there, not much but some. As for being charged twice or double, I don't see it. Not saying you have not been over charged, just not charged twice for the same thing.
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AusTx68 · 02-07-2013, 12:11 AM

This is exactly why I did nearly all the work myself. I'm not gonna cheat myself. If I mess up, I learn in the process.

STOCKISH · 02-07-2013, 09:46 AM

I think the cut is horrible, however, it looks to me like the "extra" $130 was talking to VA tech support to make sure how to make the VA kit work with something other than the VA supplied compressor. Unless I am reading it wrong I dont think there was an overcharge. The 15hrs looks like install of body parts, etc... Any shop will charge for their time, wether it is working on your vehicle of using time with tech support during an aftermarket install. Bill looks legit to me.

02-06-2013, 12:05 AM	#1
six8burban Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: philadelphia pa Posts: 124	Over charged? Guys i have some ?'s on invoice 293. I was quoted a flat fee of 1200.00 to install a vintage air system on a 1968 chevy sub that originally had no air. Now on invoice 295 page 3 i'm being charged again? I have several other issues with other items regarding labor hours. I'm not a 100% happy with the quality of a few things and the feeling of being way overcharged is something thats just hard to digest. Attached Images

02-06-2013, 12:12 AM	#2
71swb4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 10,497	Re: Over charged? Wow those are some nice detailed invoices!!! A lot better than most people get. What are your exact questions? If they quoted $1,200 for Vintage Air install with your OEM compressor, then yes I agree the extra $130 needs to be removed from the bill. __________________ Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

02-06-2013, 12:39 AM	#4
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,945	Re: Over charged? I wouldn't be paying them nothing until they corrected the bill. If you have proof of the $1200.00 quote then by all means go sit down and tell them to forget it. $100.00 may let them slid if he gives me a honest answer, $900 ant going to happen no way! __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

02-06-2013, 10:35 AM	#6
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02-06-2013, 07:44 PM	#8
71swb4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 10,497	Re: Over charged? I am reading it as he is charging you 15 hours to: install inner and outer fenders on the right side install keyless entry and push button start system install dash lighting dimmer switch install Dakota Digital cluster and bezel Fire engine to test ignition systems What was the shop owner's response when you asked them about the quality issues you have and the sections you feel you were overcharged on? __________________ Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

02-06-2013, 07:47 PM	#10
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02-06-2013, 08:33 PM	#17
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: Over charged? I don't see anything wrong with it either. "N/C billed on 293" means that you were not charged for those things, they were billed under the invoice 293. 15 hours seems reasonable for the rest of the stuff on that list. The only thing I see an issue with is the $130, but if you didn't mention you would be using a part not included in the VA kit, like a factory compressor, then I could see the extra $130. Did you install a 5.3 or something? I can't see using an old GM compressor compared to a new sanden the kits come with, unless you're using a modern GM engine. I agree that the cut looks like complete ass. I would be pissed off about that. The kit COMES WITH A TEMPLATE! __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

02-06-2013, 08:33 PM	#18
69Rumbler Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 903	Re: Over charged? man i bee pissed off if i were you .. over charged and they messed up the dash .. take him to court for the cost of a new dash __________________ 1969 C20 CUSTOM "RUMBLEr"

02-06-2013, 08:38 PM	#19
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: Over charged? Like so: But it looks like he may be right, my dash pad appears to come right down to the top of the vent. Still doesn't excuse that crappy cut! __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

02-06-2013, 09:06 PM	#21
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: Over charged? Don't know... I have a 23" screen and I can still barely read them. I don't know what recourse you have. I do all my own crap so I don't have to deal with this kind of stuff!!! Best of luck with it, I hope you can work it out with them! __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

02-06-2013, 09:35 PM	#22
Lee H Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Upland Ca Posts: 4,147	Re: Over charged? That cut is horrible, you have some recourse there, not much but some. As for being charged twice or double, I don't see it. Not saying you have not been over charged, just not charged twice for the same thing. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1972 C10 SWB, Air, PS, PB, 350/350THM. Second owner. 1965 Corvette roadster, 44K miles, 327/365 SHP, 4 speed, side exhaust, knockoffs, teak, second owner (bought in 1970), Have ALL numbers matching components. My frame off restoration thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=556703

02-07-2013, 12:11 AM	#23
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02-07-2013, 09:46 AM	#24
STOCKISH Formerly- 1972SuperCheyenne Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wake Forest NC Posts: 5,782	Re: Over charged? I think the cut is horrible, however, it looks to me like the "extra" $130 was talking to VA tech support to make sure how to make the VA kit work with something other than the VA supplied compressor. Unless I am reading it wrong I dont think there was an overcharge. The 15hrs looks like install of body parts, etc... Any shop will charge for their time, wether it is working on your vehicle of using time with tech support during an aftermarket install. Bill looks legit to me. __________________ --Josh My Build Thread:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=799218 A good crossthread is better than Loctite any day. Life is not about what you have, but who you have to share it with.



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