Vintage Air Underdash Cool Only Air Conditioner Kit - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

buckskins4ever · 03-03-2013, 09:02 PM

Ok, I have already put a ton of money into my Billet bracket kit, Alternator, pulleys, powers teering pump and belts, and have EVERYTHING exactly the way it needs to be as well as working perfect. Thus being said, Here in Iowa we can actually get some really hot days during the summer, and to get the wife to ride with me I will need AC.
I came across this Vintage Air Retro Styled Underdash Cool Only MarkIV AC kit. Number 672001VHY from Vintage Air and priced at $298 through Summitracing.

Has anyone used this??? Seems it would best serve my needs without me having to throw out everything I have done and spend not only $1300 for the Vintage Air replacement AC setup as original, but another $2000-$2500 for a Billet bracket and pullet setup just to add the Compressor.

opinions Needed.

**Boog** · 03-03-2013, 09:28 PM

Regardless of the type of incab ac unit you use you will still have to add a compressor to the engine. Unless I am misunderstanding you. ?

Lee H · 03-03-2013, 09:53 PM

That unit is only the AC side of a system and only the under dash part. There's a whole lot more needed to get a functioning system.
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Andy4639 · 03-03-2013, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckskins4ever

Ok, I have already put a ton of money into my Billet bracket kit, Alternator, pulleys, powers teering pump and belts, and have EVERYTHING exactly the way it needs to be as well as working perfect. Thus being said, Here in Iowa we can actually get some really hot days during the summer, and to get the wife to ride with me I will need AC.
I came across this Vintage Air Retro Styled Underdash Cool Only MarkIV AC kit. Number 672001VHY from Vintage Air and priced at $298 through Summitracing.

Has anyone used this??? Seems it would best serve my needs without me having to throw out everything I have done and spend not only $1300 for the Vintage Air replacement AC setup as original, but another $2000-$2500 for a Billet bracket and pullet setup just to add the Compressor.

opinions Needed.

If you want AC u have to have a compressor on the engine. + all the engine bay components that go with it. Condensor, evaperator, acumlator, some type of expanision valve and hoses.

buckskins4ever · 03-03-2013, 10:49 PM

Thanks for the input guys. gonna call Vintage Air in the morning to find out more on this particular unit. Front what I can tell it has a build in compressor. If it comes to be different than that, this truck wont get AC.

Square_78 · 03-03-2013, 11:01 PM

Maybe its like a AC unit in the window of your house? haha. Hanging under the dash with a hot air vent to the outside. Might work you know.

Andy4639 · 03-03-2013, 11:26 PM

From what I saw on the website it's just for a inside unit that can be retro looking. The engine parts have to be bought as well if they aren't already on the vehicle. I could be wrong but I don't see any kind of compressor in the kit. I see the fan blower motor.
U can see where the hoses connect also on the line sticking up.
This is just a retro look for the vehicle.

buckskins4ever · 03-03-2013, 11:45 PM

Andy, I thought that as well. But I am an HVAC tech and the copper line coming from the right side of the unit appears to be a Service Valve. Which on our units is used to check pressures and add refrigerant. It looks to have two humps on the rear......one has to be blower motor and the other on the same side as the copper line should be the compressor. It says that the unit comes with a drain line which is also known as a condensate line which is a result of refrigerant being cooled.
Like I said, definitely gonna have to call Vintage air to confirm.

PHAT TONY · 03-03-2013, 11:58 PM

Keep us posted please....

**Boog** · 03-04-2013, 12:14 AM

That unit is only the evaporator and blower and controls. Hoses connect to that unit and run through the firewall to the condensor and compressor under the hood just like any other ac system. The compressor is engine driven in all auto applications.

Andy4639 · 03-04-2013, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckskins4ever

Andy, I thought that as well. But I am an HVAC tech and the copper line coming from the right side of the unit appears to be a Service Valve. Which on our units is used to check pressures and add refrigerant. It looks to have two humps on the rear......one has to be blower motor and the other on the same side as the copper line should be the compressor. It says that the unit comes with a drain line which is also known as a condensate line which is a result of refrigerant being cooled.
Like I said, definitely gonna have to call Vintage air to confirm.

Let us know for sure. U would think they would give u all the info on the unit in the depscription of it. I can see where the questionable part is. It should say add on are part of are something are give a link for the other stuff needed to make it functional.

buckskins4ever · 03-04-2013, 12:41 AM

I will post after I talk with them tomorrow guys...thanks for all the replies.

skorpioskorpio · 03-04-2013, 03:59 AM

It has to have something on the outside of the cab, otherwise it can only function as a heater. There is no magic, an air conditioner always creates heat. An air conditioner doesn't cool it just transfers the heat to somewhere else. There is no such thing as an air conditioner of any sort that can sit in a space unvented to somewhere else and leave the air cooler than it is when it's not running. Sorry but there is more to the picture, has to be.

jamesi20 · 03-04-2013, 07:32 AM

Mark IV Under Dash Cool Only - Complete System
The complete system starts with the Vintage Air Mark IV Evaporator Kit. It also includes a 508 Sanden compressor, mounting bracket, parallel flow condenser, hose kit with dryer and safety switch from TBI Industries. Design you own system by choosing components from the following options.
SKU 672001-VHY-KIT
Hose Kit w/black dryer
Standard Hose Kit w/dryer (+$89.00)
Ex. L Hose Kit w/dryer(4' longer #6 & #10) (+$99.00)
Safety Switch
Binary Switch (High/Low Pressure Switch) (+$14.00)
Trinary Switch (High/Low + Fan Switch) (+$35.00)
Compressor
Plain Compressor (+$175.00)
Polished Compressor (+$215.00)
Chrome Compressor (+$260.00)

buckskins4ever · 03-04-2013, 04:04 PM

Well, after trying to reach Vontage Air for more than 5 hours today, I finally got in touch with some guy that began by answering the question wrong then when I elaborated about the Compressor and Drier.......he backtracked.
So as many have mentioned, this is merely a VINTAGE look to what someone would have had to ADD-ON an under dash unit instead of shelling out the bucks for factory option. Looks like my little hugger is staying non-ac. Im not gonna fork over $3500-$4000 to redo my billet brackets, and add all the components to get a little air for a few days.

~Whitey~ · 03-04-2013, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckskins4ever

Looks like my little hugger is staying non-ac. Im not gonna fork over $3500-$4000 to redo my billet brackets, and add all the components to get a little air for a few days.

I'd like to add AC to mine as well someday, but that's ALOT of bones for the aftermarket AC's. Might be better off finding some original parts from an AC truck and making them work. Those under dash units are hideous anyway.

ChevyCruizer · 03-04-2013, 05:00 PM

I think the motor for the blower mounts in-between the two humps. The two humps are where the fan blades are and match up to the two vents on the front of the unit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckskins4ever

It looks to have two humps on the rear......one has to be blower motor and the other on the same side as the copper line should be the compressor.Like I said, definitely gonna have to call Vintage air to confirm.

buckskins4ever · 03-04-2013, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Whitey~

I'd like to add AC to mine as well someday, but that's ALOT of bones for the aftermarket AC's. Might be better off finding some original parts from an AC truck and making them work. Those under dash units are hideous anyway.

Its not the making the parts work thats such a big deal to me. Its the already expensive parts and billet Specialties Mid Mount Bracket kit I have mounted on the front of the motor. They dont make another bracket set other than their $2000-$2500 kit that accounts for the Sanden AC compressor. I could deal with the $1300 vintage Air OEM fit AC that replaces everything from my Heat only system with a Heat/AC system. I will keep looking for a reasonable priced billet setup that will accommodate the AC compressor, alternator, and power steering pump.

buckskins4ever · 03-04-2013, 07:12 PM

Day may be getting better!! I got in touch with Billet Specialties and it appears they may be able to adapt a bracket to my current setup without breaking the bank. Brackets, hardware, pulley, and idlers for the AC compressor are part of another kit that matches mine pretty close. They are suppose to call me back with hopes of being not more than $300 for the setup.

Lee H · 03-04-2013, 07:27 PM

That's great news. The Vintage Air kit for our trucks is a very good product. Easy to install, in cab stuff fits great, under hood stuff is minimum compared to the original stuff making for a very clean install. Mine keeps me toasty in the cool months and the A/C is like a meat locket when it's hot. I rarely have it on high, hot or cold.

**Dieselwrencher** · 03-04-2013, 09:13 PM

Good luck with it, and sweet looking truck!

buckskins4ever · 03-04-2013, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

Good luck with it, and sweet looking truck!

Thanks Diesel.....I hear I gotta see this Corvette running 2 twin turbos!!!

**Dieselwrencher** · 03-04-2013, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by buckskins4ever

Thanks Diesel.....I hear I gotta see this Corvette running 2 twin turbos!!!

It only has one turbo on it right now. It had 2 turbos on it a while ago though. That might change if the time allows.

Andy4639 · 03-04-2013, 09:56 PM

Hope it works out for u man!

03-03-2013, 09:28 PM	#2
Boog laying low Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Searcy, Ark. USA Posts: 13,122	Re: Vintage Air Underdash Cool Only Air Conditioner Kit Regardless of the type of incab ac unit you use you will still have to add a compressor to the engine. Unless I am misunderstanding you. ? __________________ Boog 69 Chevy stepside, 358/T350, 4.11 posi, 4.5/4 drop, rallys, poboy driver primer is finer 91 Chevy sportside, Tahoe, Yukon & GMC Crewcab All GM..'nuff said. I stand for the flag and kneel at the cross

03-03-2013, 09:53 PM	#3
Lee H Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Upland Ca Posts: 4,141	Re: Vintage Air Underdash Cool Only Air Conditioner Kit That unit is only the AC side of a system and only the under dash part. There's a whole lot more needed to get a functioning system. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1972 C10 SWB, Air, PS, PB, 350/350THM. Second owner. 1965 Corvette roadster, 44K miles, 327/365 SHP, 4 speed, side exhaust, knockoffs, teak, second owner (bought in 1970), Have ALL numbers matching components. My frame off restoration thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=556703

03-03-2013, 10:49 PM	#5
buckskins4ever Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Altoona Iowa Posts: 481	Re: Vintage Air Underdash Cool Only Air Conditioner Kit Thanks for the input guys. gonna call Vintage Air in the morning to find out more on this particular unit. Front what I can tell it has a build in compressor. If it comes to be different than that, this truck wont get AC.

03-03-2013, 11:26 PM	#7
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,936	Re: Vintage Air Underdash Cool Only Air Conditioner Kit From what I saw on the website it's just for a inside unit that can be retro looking. The engine parts have to be bought as well if they aren't already on the vehicle. I could be wrong but I don't see any kind of compressor in the kit. I see the fan blower motor. U can see where the hoses connect also on the line sticking up. This is just a retro look for the vehicle. __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

03-03-2013, 11:45 PM	#8
buckskins4ever Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Altoona Iowa Posts: 481	Re: Vintage Air Underdash Cool Only Air Conditioner Kit Andy, I thought that as well. But I am an HVAC tech and the copper line coming from the right side of the unit appears to be a Service Valve. Which on our units is used to check pressures and add refrigerant. It looks to have two humps on the rear......one has to be blower motor and the other on the same side as the copper line should be the compressor. It says that the unit comes with a drain line which is also known as a condensate line which is a result of refrigerant being cooled. Like I said, definitely gonna have to call Vintage air to confirm.

03-03-2013, 09:02 PM	#1
buckskins4ever Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Altoona Iowa Posts: 481	Vintage Air Underdash Cool Only Air Conditioner Kit Ok, I have already put a ton of money into my Billet bracket kit, Alternator, pulleys, powers teering pump and belts, and have EVERYTHING exactly the way it needs to be as well as working perfect. Thus being said, Here in Iowa we can actually get some really hot days during the summer, and to get the wife to ride with me I will need AC. I came across this Vintage Air Retro Styled Underdash Cool Only MarkIV AC kit. Number 672001VHY from Vintage Air and priced at $298 through Summitracing. Has anyone used this??? Seems it would best serve my needs without me having to throw out everything I have done and spend not only $1300 for the Vintage Air replacement AC setup as original, but another $2000-$2500 for a Billet bracket and pullet setup just to add the Compressor. opinions Needed.

03-03-2013, 11:01 PM	#6
Square_78 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Okanagan Valley, BC, Canada Posts: 1,237	Re: Vintage Air Underdash Cool Only Air Conditioner Kit Maybe its like a AC unit in the window of your house? haha. Hanging under the dash with a hot air vent to the outside. Might work you know. __________________ #teamlongbed "I refuse to go disc brakes. I actually love drum brakes. It makes for an adventure." - 50bomb 1978 Chevy shop truck - static 6/8" 1970 GMC 1500 - Accuair eLevel Resto-mod http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=537497

03-03-2013, 11:58 PM	#9
PHAT TONY Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Red Deer ab canada Posts: 1,250	Re: Vintage Air Underdash Cool Only Air Conditioner Kit Keep us posted please.... __________________ 1972 factory 2 Wheel Drive Blazer-Sold 1972 K10 4X4-Sold 1971 Chevrolet Cheyenne/10-Sold 1970 Chevrolet C/10-Sold 1968 GMC 4X4-Project 1968 Chevrolet C/10 Pro Street 1970 GMC 3/4 Ton-Parts 1997 2WD 2DR Yukon-Sweet http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=335664

03-04-2013, 12:14 AM	#10
Boog laying low Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Searcy, Ark. USA Posts: 13,122	Re: Vintage Air Underdash Cool Only Air Conditioner Kit That unit is only the evaporator and blower and controls. Hoses connect to that unit and run through the firewall to the condensor and compressor under the hood just like any other ac system. The compressor is engine driven in all auto applications. __________________ Boog 69 Chevy stepside, 358/T350, 4.11 posi, 4.5/4 drop, rallys, poboy driver primer is finer 91 Chevy sportside, Tahoe, Yukon & GMC Crewcab All GM..'nuff said. I stand for the flag and kneel at the cross

03-04-2013, 12:41 AM	#12
buckskins4ever Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Altoona Iowa Posts: 481	Re: Vintage Air Underdash Cool Only Air Conditioner Kit I will post after I talk with them tomorrow guys...thanks for all the replies.

03-04-2013, 03:59 AM	#13
skorpioskorpio Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,018	Re: Vintage Air Underdash Cool Only Air Conditioner Kit It has to have something on the outside of the cab, otherwise it can only function as a heater. There is no magic, an air conditioner always creates heat. An air conditioner doesn't cool it just transfers the heat to somewhere else. There is no such thing as an air conditioner of any sort that can sit in a space unvented to somewhere else and leave the air cooler than it is when it's not running. Sorry but there is more to the picture, has to be.

03-04-2013, 07:32 AM	#14
jamesi20 Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: NORTHEAST OHIO Posts: 493	Re: Vintage Air Underdash Cool Only Air Conditioner Kit Mark IV Under Dash Cool Only - Complete System The complete system starts with the Vintage Air Mark IV Evaporator Kit. It also includes a 508 Sanden compressor, mounting bracket, parallel flow condenser, hose kit with dryer and safety switch from TBI Industries. Design you own system by choosing components from the following options. SKU 672001-VHY-KIT Hose Kit w/black dryer Standard Hose Kit w/dryer (+$89.00) Ex. L Hose Kit w/dryer(4' longer #6 & #10) (+$99.00) Safety Switch Binary Switch (High/Low Pressure Switch) (+$14.00) Trinary Switch (High/Low + Fan Switch) (+$35.00) Compressor Plain Compressor (+$175.00) Polished Compressor (+$215.00) Chrome Compressor (+$260.00)

03-04-2013, 04:04 PM	#15
buckskins4ever Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Altoona Iowa Posts: 481	Re: Vintage Air Underdash Cool Only Air Conditioner Kit Well, after trying to reach Vontage Air for more than 5 hours today, I finally got in touch with some guy that began by answering the question wrong then when I elaborated about the Compressor and Drier.......he backtracked. So as many have mentioned, this is merely a VINTAGE look to what someone would have had to ADD-ON an under dash unit instead of shelling out the bucks for factory option. Looks like my little hugger is staying non-ac. Im not gonna fork over $3500-$4000 to redo my billet brackets, and add all the components to get a little air for a few days.

03-04-2013, 07:12 PM	#19
buckskins4ever Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Altoona Iowa Posts: 481	Re: Vintage Air Underdash Cool Only Air Conditioner Kit Day may be getting better!! I got in touch with Billet Specialties and it appears they may be able to adapt a bracket to my current setup without breaking the bank. Brackets, hardware, pulley, and idlers for the AC compressor are part of another kit that matches mine pretty close. They are suppose to call me back with hopes of being not more than $300 for the setup.

03-04-2013, 07:27 PM	#20
Lee H Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Upland Ca Posts: 4,141	Re: Vintage Air Underdash Cool Only Air Conditioner Kit That's great news. The Vintage Air kit for our trucks is a very good product. Easy to install, in cab stuff fits great, under hood stuff is minimum compared to the original stuff making for a very clean install. Mine keeps me toasty in the cool months and the A/C is like a meat locket when it's hot. I rarely have it on high, hot or cold. __________________ 1972 C10 SWB, Air, PS, PB, 350/350THM. Second owner. 1965 Corvette roadster, 44K miles, 327/365 SHP, 4 speed, side exhaust, knockoffs, teak, second owner (bought in 1970), Have ALL numbers matching components. My frame off restoration thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=556703



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03-04-2013, 09:13 PM	#21
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03-04-2013, 09:56 PM	#24
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,936	Re: Vintage Air Underdash Cool Only Air Conditioner Kit Hope it works out for u man! __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

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