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DavidM · 03-11-2013, 02:33 AM

So here is it...

There is a 2011 Chevy 2500 hd crew cab 6.0 truck 360 hp
truck 6 speed automatic truck
17,933 miles on the truck

the problem

It was shot up and is a police auction item "like people died in it"
I could get the entire truck for 5k
or drive train for $1,900.00

Would u buy it ?
what are your thoughts?

Racer2172 · 03-11-2013, 02:42 AM

Is buy motor, not sure about truck kinda haunting
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SS Tim · 03-11-2013, 02:48 AM

Its just parts, biohazard concerns aside I see no problem with it. Encountered this situation several times working as both a trimmer and a technician. To me a lot would depend on the amount of cleanup/replacement required.
However I am having a problem understanding how you can buy it whole or just the powertrain through an "auction"

DavidM · 03-11-2013, 02:50 AM

Yah it it one of tho's should I should'nt I kinda deals

DavidM · 03-11-2013, 02:54 AM

The Place is not sure if they can sell the interior and cab cause it has human matter in it the guy said... then he told me he would sale the drive train for 1900.00 and he said that would be computer engine trans but id have to pull it
so im not sure if i should or if its something safe to do

Artikgrau325is · 03-11-2013, 03:11 AM

Blood and guts only add to the charisma of the truck, go for it.

SS Tim · 03-11-2013, 03:19 AM

There are companies that specialize in this sort of cleanup. But from the sound of this it has been sitting since. Might try contacting one and arranging an estimate for sanitizing it. Mostly they cut and remove anything soft and only clean as a last resort from what I have seen.

sduckworth13 · 03-11-2013, 03:24 AM

Bleach kills 99.99% of germs

buy it. I guess i look at it differently, considering I used to be a paramedic.

jorgensensc · 03-11-2013, 03:27 AM

Just throwing this out there for you to consider. The junkyards get vehicles in that have been in major wrecks. Take a look around inside some of the cabs. You've probably already pulled parts from a car that someone has died in. Speaking as a firefighter/paramedic I can tell you that many people die in car wrecks, and those cars end up in salvage yards all the time. Parts are parts. Wear gloves and old clothes, eye protection, and get rid of all the clothes when your done. You've probably touched worse stuff in your life and didn't even know it. Parts are parts. That person won't need them anymore.
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SS Tim · 03-11-2013, 03:35 AM

Too true, a $15 Tyvek bunny suit will be enough in all but "wet" spots. Gloves are always a good idea along with a mask.

piecesparts · 03-11-2013, 04:09 AM

Check for damage to the drive train. For the $1900.00, that would include everything from the computer to the rear axle, in my book. A lot of people want low mileage 6.0 engines and trannys.

Square_78 · 03-11-2013, 07:19 AM

Ive seen a lot of nasty smashed up cars at auto wreckers that have "questionable" stains on seats.. especially cars that look like nobody could have survived... they probably didnt. I'd toss the seats and carpet if needed and take the rest of the truck. Let the other people that believe in ghosts and goblins pass on it so you can take it home cheap.

**CC69Rat** · 03-11-2013, 08:05 AM

Any bullet holes in the front fender / area? My luck I'd get it and find a big hole in the side of the block.

I dont know man .. I think I'd pass on it just for the sake of the people who passed away, plus it could have been in a chase or whatever. If I'm running for my life I'm not going to take it easy on the motor. It's probably been run pretty hard for a long period of time.

.. but who knows.

danheit · 03-11-2013, 08:13 AM

If it makes you feel better, I did the same thing on my truck. I bought a 90gmc sport from a police auction and it was all shot up. Po built the truck specifically for bank robberies. Ran from the police, outran them several times with the truck. Dummy used his actual tags on the truck and they traced it back to him. Went to his house, he tried to leave......he died and now I have his truck. Nothing immoral about it. I am a police officer, and a Christian. Look at it like this. If you don't buy it, someone else will, and it will most likely end up fixed up and sold to some family so little Jennifer can sit where somebody's brains got splattered. You want THAT to happen?
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**KyFarm** · 03-11-2013, 08:30 AM

If you are actually needing the parts than I would absolutely go for it. Would I drive it around maybe not. Would I buy it on the cheap, keep what I need and part out the rest - definitely.

I say jump on it if its a good deal once you look it over, like said above, make sure that there are no holes in major pieces like engine or trans and grab it.

MARKDTN · 03-11-2013, 08:35 AM

I don't see the value in the whole truck. The drivetrain sounds like a steal, but they may tear a lot up getting it out. Might be nice to know if it did have bullet damage to the block or transmission since you mentioned it. I have no problems with a truck like that. If you don't buy it, some junkyard will. Lots of cars in junkyards have had people die inside, that is where late model salvage comes from-wrecks.

**steelhorse** · 03-11-2013, 09:35 AM

Buy it.

cdowns · 03-11-2013, 11:12 AM

i rebuilt two motorcycles that guys died on one an indian chief the other a 69electraglide both ended up great and i had each bike for years and never a visitation from a ghost

PanelDeland · 03-11-2013, 11:36 AM

Like they said Tyveck.If you came upon the same deal for an engine and drivetrain from a source who had already pulled it,how would you know.So the real issue here is knowing.If it bothers you and you don't think you can live with it don't.

truckster · 03-11-2013, 11:38 AM

I wouldn't hesitate to buy it if the parts are in good shape.

hugger6933 · 03-11-2013, 11:44 AM

I have been in the rebuild business since 1987 I say buy it if you are concerned flip it it will double your money the way trucks are selling wrecked right now. Bio hazzard mean nothing to us in the biz most all of us know that that stuff is killed on cotact with bleach and will also die outside the body inusally less than 24 hrs anyway

Madtat · 03-11-2013, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sduckworth13

Bleach kills 99.99% of germs

buy it. I guess i look at it differently, considering I used to be a paramedic.

^^^ What he said. If your still concerned after that run a untral violet light after your cleaning over everything, anything "questionable" left behind you will at least know where to focus the rest of your cleaning.
Rember ghosts cant hurt you, the living can.
Buy it!

**HeloCrewChief** · 03-11-2013, 11:50 AM

If you get the whole truck just make sure the blood has not soaked through the carpet on to any metal components. Blood is highly corrosive. Don't see any issues with putting on some gloves and going to town. Just make sure you pull everything out including the carpet and give it a good scrub. If it makes you feel better people live and die in medevac Helicopters everyday and they fly around just fine with no haunting. Also, if you plan on reselling the engine/trans it is beneficial to have the truck it came out of around as I find people want proof of the mileage and the story your telling them.

**Tim Christian** · 03-11-2013, 11:50 AM

Did you ever notice that the only people who see ghost is only people who beleive in them????

tommys72 · 03-11-2013, 12:02 PM

Just my 2 cents, but, if you want it buy it, if you don't like the idea, don't buy it....its ultimately your money and decision....the rest of us just have opinions
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03-11-2013, 02:33 AM	#1
DavidM Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Modesto Ca. Posts: 147	A Moral Question So here is it... There is a 2011 Chevy 2500 hd crew cab 6.0 truck 360 hp truck 6 speed automatic truck 17,933 miles on the truck the problem It was shot up and is a police auction item "like people died in it" I could get the entire truck for 5k or drive train for $1,900.00 Would u buy it ? what are your thoughts? __________________ David M Proud Owner of A 67 C10 Shortfleet 350/350/3.73

03-11-2013, 02:42 AM	#2
Racer2172 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 320	Re: A Moral Question Is buy motor, not sure about truck kinda haunting Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 65 C-10 Times gone by(Sons truck)http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...92#post6164692 70 C-30 Tow truck AKA Highlighter 02 Silverado 2500 HD CUCVII Tow Rig/DD 1968 C10 Project Quarantine http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=804800 1980 Buick Regal Dirt Stock car

03-11-2013, 02:48 AM	#3
SS Tim Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Edwards, CA Posts: 7,507	Re: A Moral Question Its just parts, biohazard concerns aside I see no problem with it. Encountered this situation several times working as both a trimmer and a technician. To me a lot would depend on the amount of cleanup/replacement required. However I am having a problem understanding how you can buy it whole or just the powertrain through an "auction" __________________ Thanks, Tim * VIN/Model Decoders * Power Team Charts (engine/transmission/gear ratio) * Post Your Pickup SPID Blazer SPID Suburban/Panel SPID * RTFM ... Read The Factory Manuals... download 'em here Highlanders Do you have a 1972 Plaid Pickup? Plaid Blazer ** Plaid Suburban

03-11-2013, 02:50 AM	#4
DavidM Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Modesto Ca. Posts: 147	Re: A Moral Question Yah it it one of tho's should I should'nt I kinda deals __________________ David M Proud Owner of A 67 C10 Shortfleet 350/350/3.73

03-11-2013, 02:54 AM	#5
DavidM Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Modesto Ca. Posts: 147	Re: A Moral Question The Place is not sure if they can sell the interior and cab cause it has human matter in it the guy said... then he told me he would sale the drive train for 1900.00 and he said that would be computer engine trans but id have to pull it so im not sure if i should or if its something safe to do __________________ David M Proud Owner of A 67 C10 Shortfleet 350/350/3.73

03-11-2013, 03:11 AM	#6
Artikgrau325is Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 88	Re: A Moral Question Blood and guts only add to the charisma of the truck, go for it.

03-11-2013, 03:19 AM	#7
SS Tim Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Edwards, CA Posts: 7,507	Re: A Moral Question There are companies that specialize in this sort of cleanup. But from the sound of this it has been sitting since. Might try contacting one and arranging an estimate for sanitizing it. Mostly they cut and remove anything soft and only clean as a last resort from what I have seen. __________________ Thanks, Tim * VIN/Model Decoders * Power Team Charts (engine/transmission/gear ratio) * Post Your Pickup SPID Blazer SPID Suburban/Panel SPID * RTFM ... Read The Factory Manuals... download 'em here Highlanders Do you have a 1972 Plaid Pickup? Plaid Blazer ** Plaid Suburban

03-11-2013, 03:24 AM	#8
sduckworth13 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Posts: 3,541	Re: A Moral Question Bleach kills 99.99% of germs buy it. I guess i look at it differently, considering I used to be a paramedic. __________________ Scott

03-11-2013, 03:27 AM	#9
jorgensensc Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cypress, Tx Posts: 4,005	Re: A Moral Question Just throwing this out there for you to consider. The junkyards get vehicles in that have been in major wrecks. Take a look around inside some of the cabs. You've probably already pulled parts from a car that someone has died in. Speaking as a firefighter/paramedic I can tell you that many people die in car wrecks, and those cars end up in salvage yards all the time. Parts are parts. Wear gloves and old clothes, eye protection, and get rid of all the clothes when your done. You've probably touched worse stuff in your life and didn't even know it. Parts are parts. That person won't need them anymore. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1972 C20 Suburban- Big Blue Betty '56 Chevy Bel Air Sedan- Frame up Restoration -What would you attempt to achieve if you knew you could not fail?- -I Refuse To Tiptoe Through Life, Only To Arrive Safely At Death's Door- R.I.P. EAST SIDE LOW LIFE

03-11-2013, 03:35 AM	#10
SS Tim Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Edwards, CA Posts: 7,507	Re: A Moral Question Too true, a $15 Tyvek bunny suit will be enough in all but "wet" spots. Gloves are always a good idea along with a mask. __________________ Thanks, Tim * VIN/Model Decoders * Power Team Charts (engine/transmission/gear ratio) * Post Your Pickup SPID Blazer SPID Suburban/Panel SPID * RTFM ... Read The Factory Manuals... download 'em here Highlanders Do you have a 1972 Plaid Pickup? Plaid Blazer ** Plaid Suburban

03-11-2013, 04:09 AM	#11
piecesparts Parts and more parts Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lebo, Kansas (middle of nowhere Posts: 6,821	Re: A Moral Question Check for damage to the drive train. For the $1900.00, that would include everything from the computer to the rear axle, in my book. A lot of people want low mileage 6.0 engines and trannys. __________________ Frank

03-11-2013, 07:19 AM	#12
Square_78 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Okanagan Valley, BC, Canada Posts: 1,237	Re: A Moral Question Ive seen a lot of nasty smashed up cars at auto wreckers that have "questionable" stains on seats.. especially cars that look like nobody could have survived... they probably didnt. I'd toss the seats and carpet if needed and take the rest of the truck. Let the other people that believe in ghosts and goblins pass on it so you can take it home cheap. __________________ #teamlongbed "I refuse to go disc brakes. I actually love drum brakes. It makes for an adventure." - 50bomb 1978 Chevy shop truck - static 6/8" 1970 GMC 1500 - Accuair eLevel Resto-mod http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=537497

03-11-2013, 08:05 AM	#13
CC69Rat Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 6,224	Re: A Moral Question Any bullet holes in the front fender / area? My luck I'd get it and find a big hole in the side of the block. I dont know man .. I think I'd pass on it just for the sake of the people who passed away, plus it could have been in a chase or whatever. If I'm running for my life I'm not going to take it easy on the motor. It's probably been run pretty hard for a long period of time. .. but who knows. __________________ Chad 1967 C10 SWB - Project Savannah - 6.0/4L80 Currently underway 1968 C10 SWB - TOTY 2018, 50th Anniversary Tribute Project * Sold * Pride and Joy 1986 Silverado Short Fleet - Scarlet Sold 1985 Silverado Short Fleet Sold 2022 Jeep Gladiator Mojave 2001 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted, Built 1992 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted 2013 Honda Accord EX-L v6 Coupe 6spd (wife's ride)

03-11-2013, 08:13 AM	#14
danheit Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Little River, SC Posts: 255	Re: A Moral Question If it makes you feel better, I did the same thing on my truck. I bought a 90gmc sport from a police auction and it was all shot up. Po built the truck specifically for bank robberies. Ran from the police, outran them several times with the truck. Dummy used his actual tags on the truck and they traced it back to him. Went to his house, he tried to leave......he died and now I have his truck. Nothing immoral about it. I am a police officer, and a Christian. Look at it like this. If you don't buy it, someone else will, and it will most likely end up fixed up and sold to some family so little Jennifer can sit where somebody's brains got splattered. You want THAT to happen? Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1955 Chevy 3100 Task Force Pro Street - Sold! 1957 Chevy 3100 Task Force "Rat Rod" a.k.a. SLOTH - Sold! 1971 C10 Longbed factory A/C all stock 350/350 1979 Jeep CJ7 - Build date on the day I was born! -Keeper 2004 Expedition - Family Hauler 2007 Accord - Wife's around towner; I have more but not enough lines to post them!

03-11-2013, 08:30 AM	#15
KyFarm Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Taylorsville, KY Posts: 267	Re: A Moral Question If you are actually needing the parts than I would absolutely go for it. Would I drive it around maybe not. Would I buy it on the cheap, keep what I need and part out the rest - definitely. I say jump on it if its a good deal once you look it over, like said above, make sure that there are no holes in major pieces like engine or trans and grab it. __________________ KyFarm's Build/Need help thread 1969 K-10, Short Step, (383HT/4L70E soon)-NP205



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03-11-2013, 08:35 AM	#16
MARKDTN Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 2,197	Re: A Moral Question I don't see the value in the whole truck. The drivetrain sounds like a steal, but they may tear a lot up getting it out. Might be nice to know if it did have bullet damage to the block or transmission since you mentioned it. I have no problems with a truck like that. If you don't buy it, some junkyard will. Lots of cars in junkyards have had people die inside, that is where late model salvage comes from-wrecks. __________________ '83 K20-TPI '73 C10 '79 C10-ex-diesel(SOLD) '07 Tahoe(Son driving) '14 Suburban-DD '71 C10-current project

03-11-2013, 09:35 AM	#17
steelhorse Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Franklinton NC Posts: 1,309	Re: A Moral Question Buy it.

03-11-2013, 11:12 AM	#18
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: A Moral Question i rebuilt two motorcycles that guys died on one an indian chief the other a 69electraglide both ended up great and i had each bike for years and never a visitation from a ghost __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

03-11-2013, 11:36 AM	#19
PanelDeland I am a Referee of life. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Greensboro N.C. Posts: 13,992	Re: A Moral Question Like they said Tyveck.If you came upon the same deal for an engine and drivetrain from a source who had already pulled it,how would you know.So the real issue here is knowing.If it bothers you and you don't think you can live with it don't. __________________ The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion. You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape. "My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!" Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold! "You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck" "Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult' "Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil"

03-11-2013, 11:38 AM	#20
truckster Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Orem, Utah Posts: 8,021	Re: A Moral Question I wouldn't hesitate to buy it if the parts are in good shape.

03-11-2013, 11:44 AM	#21
hugger6933 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Marianna Arkansas Posts: 7,280	Re: A Moral Question I have been in the rebuild business since 1987 I say buy it if you are concerned flip it it will double your money the way trucks are selling wrecked right now. Bio hazzard mean nothing to us in the biz most all of us know that that stuff is killed on cotact with bleach and will also die outside the body inusally less than 24 hrs anyway

03-11-2013, 11:50 AM	#23
HeloCrewChief Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: North Alabama Posts: 1,057	Re: A Moral Question If you get the whole truck just make sure the blood has not soaked through the carpet on to any metal components. Blood is highly corrosive. Don't see any issues with putting on some gloves and going to town. Just make sure you pull everything out including the carpet and give it a good scrub. If it makes you feel better people live and die in medevac Helicopters everyday and they fly around just fine with no haunting. Also, if you plan on reselling the engine/trans it is beneficial to have the truck it came out of around as I find people want proof of the mileage and the story your telling them. __________________ 1970 C10 to K20 conversion 1974 GMC Jimmy 1968 50th Anniversary Short Bed 1968 Chevelle 1964 Comet Caliente 1990 W250 Cummins

03-11-2013, 11:50 AM	#24
Tim Christian Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: TN/VA Posts: 6,389	Re: A Moral Question Did you ever notice that the only people who see ghost is only people who beleive in them????

03-11-2013, 12:02 PM	#25
tommys72 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: springfield mo Posts: 3,076	Re: A Moral Question Just my 2 cents, but, if you want it buy it, if you don't like the idea, don't buy it....its ultimately your money and decision....the rest of us just have opinions Posted via Mobile Device __________________ United States Marine Corps 2000-2011 Iraq and Afghanistan veteran Just living life now and enjoying it and my wife, daughter and son

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