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Old 03-12-2013, 03:27 AM   #1
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Unhappy How to avoid Dmv Fees on my plates...

Can anyone help me i had my truck a friends shop for about three years and never put the truck on the " non op" at the dmv well my good friend the shop owner pasted away last year in may.. r.i.p. but now im trying to get the truck running i went down to the dmv and they want me to pay 1000 dollars of plates .

Does anyone have an idea how i can avoid that please help me....
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Old 03-12-2013, 08:15 AM   #2
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welcome to the peoples republic of california, in ohio that would be $20
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Old 03-12-2013, 08:58 AM   #3
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I don't know about cali but most states your stuck paying if its tagged in your name no matter if its being drove or not.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:16 AM   #4
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I don't know about cali but most states your stuck paying if its tagged in your name no matter if its being drove or not.
not in Tennessee, I let all mine expire while I was out of town. new tag's start'n at the curent month, all they ask is has it been driven.
I cant amagine live'n in California with all there law's ?
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:18 AM   #5
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that really sucks, good luck...
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:50 AM   #6
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3 years of plate fees in cali are a grand??? I'd be broke with all my cars!
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:27 AM   #7
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3 years of plate fees in cali are a grand??? I'd be broke with all my cars!
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Old 03-12-2013, 04:02 PM   #8
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Make an appointment and explain the situation to the person at the counter. It's a crap shoot, but I've heard of some folks having good luck getting fines reduced with this method.

What have you got to lose?
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Old 03-12-2013, 04:24 PM   #9
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Re: How to avoid Dmv Fees on my plates...

in nc you just tell them the trucks was not running and at a shop and they drop the fees and start your tag at the current month
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Old 03-12-2013, 05:10 PM   #11
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Re: How to avoid Dmv Fees on my plates...

sell the truck to your wife or even your self, here in Ohio, all you gotta do is print a business card and you can sell the car to said business and put it in its name, doesn' even have to be real. [<done that before]

title just has to change hands to lose those fee's
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Old 03-12-2013, 05:19 PM   #12
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not in Tennessee, I let all mine expire while I was out of town. new tag's start'n at the curent month, all they ask is has it been driven.
I cant amagine live'n in California with all there law's ?
its the same in texas i just say it hasnt ben driven and bam start at the current month talking about it my tags are actually out right now!! lol
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Old 03-12-2013, 05:26 PM   #13
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Re: How to avoid Dmv Fees on my plates...

yep same in MO, I had a car down for several months, almost a year, they just started the current month... I did still pay property tax on it..
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:01 PM   #14
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yep same in MO, I had a car down for several months, almost a year, they just started the current month... I did still pay property tax on it..
Thanks, I feel better now. No property tax or 'intangible tax' on vehicles in California.
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:42 PM   #15
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not in Tennessee, I let all mine expire while I was out of town. new tag's start'n at the curent month, all they ask is has it been driven.
I cant amagine live'n in California with all there law's ?
X2 I've let them set for 1 1/2 to 3 years then go to the courthouse and $24 and I'm out the door. Yep $24 per year, I love it.
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:49 PM   #16
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Re: How to avoid Dmv Fees on my plates...

Go to the DMV and ask for a "statement of facts" form and get the dead guy to sign it saying that it was parked at his property for the entire time the tags were expired. Most of the time they will waive at least half of the fees. You must be super nice to the person at the counter so they will cooperate.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:37 PM   #17
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get the dead guy to sign it
How do you go about doing that, exactly?

OP, up to you if you want to try this. Apparently saying "the check was in the mail, I swear!" works:

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§9557. (a) No penalty shall be imposed for delinquent payment of any fee required to be paid under this code in the event any instrument for effective payment of such fee is placed in the United States mail or in any postal box maintained by the United States Postal Service with sufficient identification in an envelope with postage thereon prepaid and addressed to the Department of Motor Vehicles at Sacramento, or to one of the regularly established branch offices of the department or to any person or organization authorized by the department under Section 4610, prior to the date or time the fee becomes delinquent.
(b) Any person so mailing an instrument for payment of any fee may file with the department a certificate in writing showing compliance with the provisions of this section. The certificate shall be accepted by the department as prima facie evidence of such mailing.

Late registration penalties are quite severe and may amount to 180% of the original fees. These fees do not have to be paid if the original payment was lost in the mail.

For this one you will need to fill out the STATEMENT OF FACTS at BOX H (the box with all the lines) with the sentence

** All fees were placed in the US Mail before the due date and the vehicle is exempt from late registration penalties.**

If you are loopholing multiple years be sure to have a separate form for each year. The form should be signed by whoever put the fees in the mail. You can also write the above sentence on a blank sheet of paper with a date and signature at the bottom. Under the signature write the sentence

**I Certify under penalty of perjury under the laws of the State of California that the information entered by me on this document is true and correct.**

This one is so obscure it never fails to flabbergast the clerk. Be persistent, demand a supervisor and you will get your way, EVENTUALLY!!
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Old 03-12-2013, 08:35 PM   #18
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Not an issue in Virginia either.
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Re: How to avoid Dmv Fees on my plates...

here in Utah, we usually get a letter from the DMV a few months after our plates expire. I ignore them, but generally the State is wondering about insurance. Our plates don't stay with the car and we are liable for them, so it's a good reminder to take off the plates if it's going to be out of service for a long while, or if it's sold. I would do the 'sell it to someone and then buy it back' thing if it were me.
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oh part I forgot, family n your own biz, you can give it as a gift, aka no taxes to pay on the title change.
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It would have never been an issue if you had paid the $10 non op fee from the start. I have a 69 CJ-5 that I non opped 13 years ago. I get a renewal notice every year asking if I want to renew the registration. If I do, it's $36. If not, I pay nothing. California laws are no big deal if you are responsible and do what you are supposed to do. I can't tell you how many trucks I have bought DIRT cheap and parted out because folks don't non op them. All it takes is $10 and no headaches.
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Yes, over ripe registration totals out more trucks than traffic accidents. I have another 77 I'm picking up cheap because of the 07 tags.
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Old 03-12-2013, 10:34 PM   #23
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Old 03-12-2013, 10:50 PM   #24
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This is so sucky for you guys ... we dont have anything like that here.
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It would have never been an issue if you had paid the $10 non op fee from the start. I have a 69 CJ-5 that I non opped 13 years ago. I get a renewal notice every year asking if I want to renew the registration. If I do, it's $36. If not, I pay nothing. California laws are no big deal if you are responsible and do what you are supposed to do. I can't tell you how many trucks I have bought DIRT cheap and parted out because folks don't non op them. All it takes is $10 and no headaches.
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I'm quite sure the PRC would send notification via US mail to this effect. NOT.

It's a "Gotcha" game. The whole point of this non op bull is to remove older vehicles from the road. Sell them to out of state buyers.
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