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0311fastco · 03-21-2013, 08:35 PM

Has anyone ran Hedman Elites? Reviews please!

Z10 · 03-21-2013, 11:00 PM

No, put just got some Sanderson CC 11's. Very nice.

HotRod C/10 · 03-21-2013, 11:24 PM

are those FastBurn heads?

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Originally Posted by Z10

No, put just got some Sanderson CC 11's. Very nice.

Scott>72-GMC · 03-21-2013, 11:24 PM

I have noticed a few header haters on here
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67ctener · 03-22-2013, 12:22 AM

I just got my Sanderson bb8s today for my 402. Amazing quality at a great price. Only true fit header I could find for my application.
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67ctener · 03-22-2013, 12:23 AM

Great lookin motor z10
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dznucks · 03-22-2013, 06:43 AM

I went with a set of hedmans. I replaced a set of edelbrocks becaused they had cracked and were ticking. Out of the box, the headmans had far worse issues than the cracked edelbrocks. Both collectors were not welded properly with leaks so big you could see light through them. also where the primary tubes are welded to the head flange, there were two leaks there as well. I sent them back and went with custom headers.

I've been through three sets of headers. I love headers. But if i had it to over again i would go with the larger diameter ram horn manifolds.

Regardless of whether you go with headers or manifolds you need to make sure that the engine torquing and vibration is isolated from the frame twisting and vibration. Flex pipes and good exhaust hangers isolate the two.

jjzepplin · 03-22-2013, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Z10

No, put just got some Sanderson CC 11's. Very nice.

YES that IS a very nice looking motor!
Do I see a vintage Cushman scooter in the background?

cdowns · 03-22-2013, 07:08 AM

i used a set of headman headers for a real long time had no quality of fit issues but i did not like how lo they sat in relation to the frame and after i dropped the truck i hit bottom with them far too much

**special-K** · 03-22-2013, 07:24 AM

I have Headman Torque Steps on my '72 K2500 that I bolted on when I installed the engine in '04 and haven't given another thought. I had the flat black ceramic done on them locally. They sit above the bottom of the frame on my 4wd. I have a set of the ceramic Elites that were for another truck but will end up being the replacement for these whenever I rebuild/replace the motor again.

Z10 · 03-22-2013, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by HotRod C/10

are those FastBurn heads?

The engine is a ZZ4 with "D" port exhaust.

Z10 · 03-22-2013, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jjzepplin

YES that IS a very nice looking motor!
Do I see a vintage Cushman scooter in the background?

Good eye! Yes that is a fully restored Silver Eagle. It belongs to my buddy and everything else you see. He has graciously let me have full run of his shop.

96blazr · 03-22-2013, 09:58 AM

I'm using the Hedman HTC-Coated Stainless Steel street Hedders, Model # 62096.
Best Hedder you can buy and will last for years.

0311fastco · 03-22-2013, 01:42 PM

Not trying to be a smart ass guys but again has anyone personally ran HEDMAN ELITES? or know of someone, I know they have the thick flange for better quality and the price is good.

67ctener · 03-22-2013, 02:19 PM

Hedman has been around forever. If there quality and products weren't "quality" they wouldn't be around. I'd say go for it. Friends of mine both have elites on there 390 fords, great looking headers but there thermal coating looks like silver paint to me. I'd buy raw steel and have them coated IMO
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0311fastco · 03-22-2013, 04:48 PM

Thanks, I agree on the coating.

Z10 · 03-22-2013, 08:28 PM

Coating on the Sanderson is very nice. We'll see how it looks once I heat them up.

**wesmigletz** · 03-22-2013, 11:57 PM

It's been about 7-8 years now, but I had Hedman Elite Headers on my 72 C20. The driver side was tight and I notched the frame slightly to clear them. I was running a set of nicely ported #186 cylinder heads which used the 13/16th plugs. It was tough getting the #5 and #7 plugs in, especially the 5. When I switched to a set of dart heads with the 5/8 plugs it was a little better.

I had much better luck with the hedman elite 1 3/4" headers I ran on my big block 65 Chevelle. I haven't installed them yet, but I have a set of 1 3/4" hedman LS1 Swap headers for my 57 chevy with the dark horse black HTC coating. They are absolutely beautifully made, but I think they are the husler line.

**special-K** · 03-23-2013, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 0311fastco

Not trying to be a smart ass guys but again has anyone personally ran HEDMAN ELITES? or know of someone, I know they have the thick flange for better quality and the price is good.

I didn't give any personal experience with Elites,but offered info for the sake of comparison under the Headman name. If you're dead set on Elites I guess just buy them. I posted my extremely good real world experience with the Tork Steps. They may not be built as heavy as the Elites,but doesn't appear to matter,going by my 9 trouble-free year experience. If you want to take care of your own coating I think these are the way to go for a street application in a truck. The name says it all. Guys who bash headers claim they rob low end torque,not that I've noticed anything like that. These are made to give more low end torque than other headers. I'm real happy with mine and wish I had ordered another set,rather than Elites,but just went with choosing from Summit's limited offering.
I have drag pipes on my Harley that are made the same way. They're 2" pipes,but start at the head with 1 3/4",which is stock size. When it gets dyno tuned I get told I should get baffles to improve bottom end. Then they run it and end up saying,"No baffles needed. Your numbers are great!"

**special-K** · 03-23-2013, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 0311fastco

Not trying to be a smart ass guys but again has anyone personally ran HEDMAN ELITES? or know of someone, I know they have the thick flange for better quality and the price is good.

I didn't give any personal experience with Elites,but offered info for the sake of comparison under the Headman name. If you're dead set on Elites I guess just buy them. I posted my extremely good real world experience with the Tork Steps. They may not be built as heavy as the Elites,but doesn't appear to matter,going by my 9 trouble-free year experience. If you want to take care of your own coating I think these are the way to go for a street application in a truck. The name says it all. Guys who bash headers claim they rib low end torque,not that I've noticed anything significant. These are made to give more low end torque than other headers. I'm real happy with mine and wish I had ordered another set,rather than Elites,but just went with choosing from Summit's limited offering. But,my seat of the pants already told me that

big mike71 · 03-23-2013, 01:49 PM

I have hedmen elites, I like them, but they hang too low.

03-21-2013, 11:00 PM	#2
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03-21-2013, 11:24 PM	#4
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03-22-2013, 12:23 AM	#6
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03-22-2013, 07:08 AM	#9
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: Headers!!!! i used a set of headman headers for a real long time had no quality of fit issues but i did not like how lo they sat in relation to the frame and after i dropped the truck i hit bottom with them far too much __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

03-22-2013, 07:24 AM	#10
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,862	Re: Headers!!!! I have Headman Torque Steps on my '72 K2500 that I bolted on when I installed the engine in '04 and haven't given another thought. I had the flat black ceramic done on them locally. They sit above the bottom of the frame on my 4wd. I have a set of the ceramic Elites that were for another truck but will end up being the replacement for these whenever I rebuild/replace the motor again. Attached Images __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~ Last edited by special-K; 03-22-2013 at 07:33 AM.

03-21-2013, 08:35 PM	#1
0311fastco Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: sacramento, california Posts: 21	Headers!!!! Has anyone ran Hedman Elites? Reviews please!

03-22-2013, 12:22 AM	#5
67ctener Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Arlington Washington Posts: 1,808	Re: Headers!!!! I just got my Sanderson bb8s today for my 402. Amazing quality at a great price. Only true fit header I could find for my application. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Scott 67 c10 sold 89 c1500 90 k2500 91 s10 #chevyonly

03-22-2013, 06:43 AM	#7
dznucks Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Smyrna, Ga Posts: 1,647	Re: Headers!!!! I went with a set of hedmans. I replaced a set of edelbrocks becaused they had cracked and were ticking. Out of the box, the headmans had far worse issues than the cracked edelbrocks. Both collectors were not welded properly with leaks so big you could see light through them. also where the primary tubes are welded to the head flange, there were two leaks there as well. I sent them back and went with custom headers. I've been through three sets of headers. I love headers. But if i had it to over again i would go with the larger diameter ram horn manifolds. Regardless of whether you go with headers or manifolds you need to make sure that the engine torquing and vibration is isolated from the frame twisting and vibration. Flex pipes and good exhaust hangers isolate the two.

03-22-2013, 09:58 AM	#13
96blazr Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: VA Posts: 740	Re: Headers!!!! I'm using the Hedman HTC-Coated Stainless Steel street Hedders, Model # 62096. Best Hedder you can buy and will last for years. Attached Images __________________ 1968 SWB. GMPP 350/350 Turbo Trans, Edelbrock Performer & Carb. Hedman Hedders, Hooker Aerochambers Mufflers. Tuff Stuff Alternators. Remember, no matter where you go, There you are. Gary

03-22-2013, 01:42 PM	#14
0311fastco Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: sacramento, california Posts: 21	Re: Headers!!!! Not trying to be a smart ass guys but again has anyone personally ran HEDMAN ELITES? or know of someone, I know they have the thick flange for better quality and the price is good.

03-22-2013, 02:19 PM	#15
67ctener Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Arlington Washington Posts: 1,808	Re: Headers!!!! Hedman has been around forever. If there quality and products weren't "quality" they wouldn't be around. I'd say go for it. Friends of mine both have elites on there 390 fords, great looking headers but there thermal coating looks like silver paint to me. I'd buy raw steel and have them coated IMO Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Scott 67 c10 sold 89 c1500 90 k2500 91 s10 #chevyonly

03-22-2013, 04:48 PM	#16
0311fastco Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: sacramento, california Posts: 21	Re: Headers!!!! Thanks, I agree on the coating.

03-22-2013, 08:28 PM	#17
Z10 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Midland, TX Posts: 1,267	Re: Headers!!!! Coating on the Sanderson is very nice. We'll see how it looks once I heat them up. __________________ 1969 RS/SS Z10 Camaro Pace coupe 1972 GMC Short Step buildhttp://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post6356218 1979 Mazda RX7 1979 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 & 1979 Pontiac Trans Am 10th Anniversary 1999 Honda Valkyrie 2006 Corvette Z06 2010 BMW 650i

03-22-2013, 11:57 PM	#18
wesmigletz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Parker, Texas Posts: 685	Re: Headers!!!! It's been about 7-8 years now, but I had Hedman Elite Headers on my 72 C20. The driver side was tight and I notched the frame slightly to clear them. I was running a set of nicely ported #186 cylinder heads which used the 13/16th plugs. It was tough getting the #5 and #7 plugs in, especially the 5. When I switched to a set of dart heads with the 5/8 plugs it was a little better. I had much better luck with the hedman elite 1 3/4" headers I ran on my big block 65 Chevelle. I haven't installed them yet, but I have a set of 1 3/4" hedman LS1 Swap headers for my 57 chevy with the dark horse black HTC coating. They are absolutely beautifully made, but I think they are the husler line. __________________ 1970 2WD K5 1968 Camaro Conv 1967 Chevy SWB 1964 Malibu SS 1957 Corvette Pics www.picturetrail.com/wesmigletz Last edited by wesmigletz; 03-23-2013 at 08:07 AM.

03-23-2013, 01:49 PM	#21
big mike71 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: independence mo Posts: 2,111	Re: Headers!!!! I have hedmen elites, I like them, but they hang too low. Attached Images __________________ I'm not as good as I once was, But I'm as good once as I ever was.



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