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mvesr · 04-20-2013, 09:05 PM

I can't get the pulleys to line up. I am out about a half inch. Any ideas?

Mika

Sammy · 04-20-2013, 09:19 PM

You need a complete set of pulleys to match otherwise you will not match up. All short or all long water pump type depending on which water pump you have. Several threads are this site about this problem with pics. Search..

mvesr · 04-20-2013, 09:43 PM

I have the crankshaft pulley Alan Grove says to use and a stock single pump pulley for the short water pump. What pulleys do I use?

Mika

msgdsrf · 04-21-2013, 10:56 AM

Press fit pulley? Thought it could be adjusted by how deep you press it on, otherwise keyed pullys come in different offsets. I'm not an expert though.

Lee H · 04-21-2013, 11:30 AM

Did they ever line up or are you adding pulleys?

mvesr · 04-21-2013, 09:08 PM

No the pump is an old style with a bolt instead of press on style.

Thanks-Mika

Malamute · 04-21-2013, 09:12 PM

I just went through this mess. Make sure that the rubber that holds the pulley to the center of the harmonic balancer isn't cracked and broken. It threw mine out by 3/8" or more and it was a pain to diagnose. GL!

msgdsrf · 04-21-2013, 09:37 PM

water pump and crank are inline?

mvesr · 04-22-2013, 10:04 AM

Yes they are both in line, it is the pump pulley that will not line up with the crank

Mika

mvesr · 04-22-2013, 10:06 AM

The balancer looked fine when put the pulley on it

Mika

msgdsrf · 04-22-2013, 12:27 PM

So again, if it's a press on pulley I belief you should adjust depth there. Do you have the Pulley installer/removal tool? Look at pulley install directions, they say to install to a depth for alignment.

**MidLifer** · 04-22-2013, 01:19 PM

Just got done with this morass myself - agree with the poster that you need a whole set of pulleys. When you say that the ps pump is 1/2" off, is it 1/2" out, i.e. toward the radiator? I eventually solved my problem by putting a triple crank pulley on. The alternator and water pump go on the inner ring and the ps pump goes on the outer one. The middle one is blank - maybe for if/when I put a/c in...

Also, your PS bracket may need to be replaced.

Hard to diagnose any of this without pics...

mvesr · 04-22-2013, 01:29 PM

It is not a press on pulley, and it is one grove out toward the radiator. I guess another crank pulley might work. Thanks for the help

Mika

mvesr · 04-22-2013, 01:30 PM

Oh by the way, after fooling with it a couple of hours, just took it off so no pictures.

Mika

**MidLifer** · 04-22-2013, 02:11 PM

Try a triple crank pulley then - the one I used is Spectre 4401.

mvesr · 04-22-2013, 07:23 PM

Thanks for the info

Mika

msgdsrf · 04-22-2013, 08:43 PM

BTW. New pullys are no guarantee. The pullys assume certain brackets for your alt and power steering. Because you have a Saginaw P pump (keyway type), the PO may have changed the bracket for the pump as well... For keyway type pullys there are varying offsets available. Get the next offset and you can use your existing crank pully. http://www.cvfracing.com/power-steer...leys-s/143.htm
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/su...make/chevrolet

mvesr · 04-23-2013, 07:44 PM

Thanks for the info

Mika

GASoline71 · 04-23-2013, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mvesr

I have the crankshaft pulley Alan Grove says to use and a stock single pump pulley for the short water pump. What pulleys do I use?

Mika

Did you contact Alan Grove Industries? With no pics, everybody here can take stabs at what could be wrong... but getting it straight from the manufacturer would help a lot.

Gary

mvesr · 04-23-2013, 08:14 PM

talked with Alan Grove yesterday, and they advised I had the right pulley's for the pump but must have a 6 cylinder bracket or something. They had no idea what to do. My buddy ground down the cast bracket I had and got the 2 groove pulley I had to work, so the next good weather Saturday we have we will give that a try. Thanks

Mika

04-20-2013, 09:05 PM	#1
mvesr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Arden NC Posts: 185	Power steering pulley I can't get the pulleys to line up. I am out about a half inch. Any ideas? Mika

04-20-2013, 09:19 PM	#2
Sammy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Bonne Terre, Mo Posts: 3,005	Re: Power steering pulley You need a complete set of pulleys to match otherwise you will not match up. All short or all long water pump type depending on which water pump you have. Several threads are this site about this problem with pics. Search.. __________________ '69 Chevy Long Fleet & '71 GMC Short Step & Project "ODD BALL" "You can wash a pig, soak it in most expensive perfume. In the end it is still just a pig." ODD BALL build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=478629"

04-20-2013, 09:43 PM	#3
mvesr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Arden NC Posts: 185	Re: Power steering pulley I have the crankshaft pulley Alan Grove says to use and a stock single pump pulley for the short water pump. What pulleys do I use? Mika

04-21-2013, 10:56 AM	#4
msgdsrf Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: White Salmon, WA Posts: 263	Re: Power steering pulley Press fit pulley? Thought it could be adjusted by how deep you press it on, otherwise keyed pullys come in different offsets. I'm not an expert though.

04-21-2013, 11:30 AM	#5
Lee H Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Upland Ca Posts: 4,142	Re: Power steering pulley Did they ever line up or are you adding pulleys? __________________ 1972 C10 SWB, Air, PS, PB, 350/350THM. Second owner. 1965 Corvette roadster, 44K miles, 327/365 SHP, 4 speed, side exhaust, knockoffs, teak, second owner (bought in 1970), Have ALL numbers matching components. My frame off restoration thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=556703

04-21-2013, 09:08 PM	#6
mvesr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Arden NC Posts: 185	Re: Power steering pulley No the pump is an old style with a bolt instead of press on style. Thanks-Mika

04-21-2013, 09:12 PM	#7
Malamute Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 756	Re: Power steering pulley I just went through this mess. Make sure that the rubber that holds the pulley to the center of the harmonic balancer isn't cracked and broken. It threw mine out by 3/8" or more and it was a pain to diagnose. GL!

04-21-2013, 09:37 PM	#8
msgdsrf Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: White Salmon, WA Posts: 263	Re: Power steering pulley water pump and crank are inline?

04-22-2013, 10:04 AM	#9
mvesr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Arden NC Posts: 185	Re: Power steering pulley Yes they are both in line, it is the pump pulley that will not line up with the crank Mika

04-22-2013, 10:06 AM	#10
mvesr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Arden NC Posts: 185	Re: Power steering pulley The balancer looked fine when put the pulley on it Mika

04-22-2013, 12:27 PM	#11
msgdsrf Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: White Salmon, WA Posts: 263	Re: Power steering pulley So again, if it's a press on pulley I belief you should adjust depth there. Do you have the Pulley installer/removal tool? Look at pulley install directions, they say to install to a depth for alignment.

04-22-2013, 01:19 PM	#12
MidLifer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: South NJ Posts: 1,264	Re: Power steering pulley Just got done with this morass myself - agree with the poster that you need a whole set of pulleys. When you say that the ps pump is 1/2" off, is it 1/2" out, i.e. toward the radiator? I eventually solved my problem by putting a triple crank pulley on. The alternator and water pump go on the inner ring and the ps pump goes on the outer one. The middle one is blank - maybe for if/when I put a/c in... Also, your PS bracket may need to be replaced. Hard to diagnose any of this without pics...

04-22-2013, 01:29 PM	#13
mvesr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Arden NC Posts: 185	Re: Power steering pulley It is not a press on pulley, and it is one grove out toward the radiator. I guess another crank pulley might work. Thanks for the help Mika

04-22-2013, 01:30 PM	#14
mvesr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Arden NC Posts: 185	Re: Power steering pulley Oh by the way, after fooling with it a couple of hours, just took it off so no pictures. Mika

04-22-2013, 02:11 PM	#15
MidLifer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: South NJ Posts: 1,264	Re: Power steering pulley Try a triple crank pulley then - the one I used is Spectre 4401.



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04-22-2013, 07:23 PM	#16
mvesr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Arden NC Posts: 185	Re: Power steering pulley Thanks for the info Mika

04-22-2013, 08:43 PM	#17
msgdsrf Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: White Salmon, WA Posts: 263	Re: Power steering pulley BTW. New pullys are no guarantee. The pullys assume certain brackets for your alt and power steering. Because you have a Saginaw P pump (keyway type), the PO may have changed the bracket for the pump as well... For keyway type pullys there are varying offsets available. Get the next offset and you can use your existing crank pully. http://www.cvfracing.com/power-steer...leys-s/143.htm http://www.summitracing.com/parts/su...make/chevrolet

04-23-2013, 07:44 PM	#18
mvesr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Arden NC Posts: 185	Re: Power steering pulley Thanks for the info Mika

04-23-2013, 08:14 PM	#20
mvesr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Arden NC Posts: 185	Re: Power steering pulley talked with Alan Grove yesterday, and they advised I had the right pulley's for the pump but must have a 6 cylinder bracket or something. They had no idea what to do. My buddy ground down the cast bracket I had and got the 2 groove pulley I had to work, so the next good weather Saturday we have we will give that a try. Thanks Mika

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