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phantom dually · 06-30-2003, 07:30 PM

I just spoke with Bill Turner from Turner enterprises in California. He has suggested that I go with a rack and pinion setup for my steering. I currently have his front lowered crossmember, upper and lower tubular a arms and rear triangulated 4 link as well as his tranny crossmember. I will be running a Moroso electric water pump and I want to keep the engine front as CLEAN as possible. I am planing to go with a manual rack and pinion for ease of install and mainly the clean factor. This will eliminate the need for a center link idler arm etc etc. Also no pump on the frame. Does anyone see any reason why this should not be done??? Bill is going to set this up for me for free also. All I pay for is parts.

BIGG BELLY · 06-30-2003, 08:02 PM

a manual rack will have slower steering--more turns from lock to lock---if you make quick turns this could be a problem--if not go 4 it

70 Jimmy · 06-30-2003, 09:02 PM

For a truck, I would go power. Is he using the Mustang or the Mustang II. I think that the mustang has a quicker turning ratio. Not sure though.

SCOTI · 06-30-2003, 11:42 PM

Does Bill have one that clears the front of the engine w/your mods? What accesories are you going to run & where are you locating them?

fastbagged68 · 07-01-2003, 11:29 AM

When I went down to BIll places he was in the process of setting up a rack pinion. I imagine it cant be hard to install. I would run power though. I am thinking of setting up a rack in my crossmember but I would like to see what rack he is using andhow it mounts up. What do you mean Bill is going to set it up for free? Is yours going to be the prototype?

SCOTI · 07-01-2003, 12:12 PM

I would like to use a rack but w/o knowing exactly where it's going to mount (measurements/dimensions) I wonder if it will interfere w/accessories.

I've been looking @ the Jim Meyers front crossmember & suspension w/R&P & tubular arms but my concern is still the same as far as rack location vs. accessories/pulleys.

Anyone know if Bill has any pics yet?

68LSS1 · 07-01-2003, 01:00 PM

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I just spoke with Bill Turner from Turner enterprises in California. He has suggested that I go with a rack and pinion setup for my steering. I currently have his front lowered crossmember, upper and lower tubular a arms and rear triangulated 4 link as well as his tranny crossmember. I will be running a Moroso electric water pump and I want to keep the engine front as CLEAN as possible. I am planing to go with a manual rack and pinion for ease of install and mainly the clean factor. This will eliminate the need for a center link idler arm etc etc. Also no pump on the frame. Does anyone see any reason why this should not be done??? Bill is going to set this up for me for free also. All I pay for is parts.

I'm interested in the triangulated 4 link. Got a number or website?
Even using a power rack you get to eliminate the gear box, all tie rods (including idler and pitman arm), etc. On my Fatman crossmember it mounts with two bolts to the front of the crossmember. Just need to get lines made for going from the metric LS1 pump to the rack which is a Pinto unit I think.

phantom dually · 07-01-2003, 09:04 PM

I am using the Mustang 2 unit. He has claimed to do this before. I think this is only suggested when you use the crossmember he has made or modified. I want a very clean setup with no power options in the way. I am running a electric water pump and a alternator. I would not mind running a power pump if I could get it to mount up and go on the opposite side of the alternator. All of this has to mount down low below the water pump. Bill Turner # is 909-926-1729. Tell him James from Ky sent you. Also he is doing me a favor doing the steering setup. I have had a few problems with the crossmember and he is sticking by his product!!

CustomChevy · 07-03-2003, 09:20 AM

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I'm interested in the triangulated 4 link. Got a number or website?

www.airride.com

the have specific applications. you can use with bags or coilovers.

phantom dually · 07-03-2003, 05:09 PM

The good thing about the kit Bill sells is that you can get it setup for airride or coilovers. Also it is a bolt in piece. As soon as I get mine in Iwill post a few pics. It is a very well built kit!!

06-30-2003, 07:30 PM	#1
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	Rack And Pinion And Your Opinion I just spoke with Bill Turner from Turner enterprises in California. He has suggested that I go with a rack and pinion setup for my steering. I currently have his front lowered crossmember, upper and lower tubular a arms and rear triangulated 4 link as well as his tranny crossmember. I will be running a Moroso electric water pump and I want to keep the engine front as CLEAN as possible. I am planing to go with a manual rack and pinion for ease of install and mainly the clean factor. This will eliminate the need for a center link idler arm etc etc. Also no pump on the frame. Does anyone see any reason why this should not be done??? Bill is going to set this up for me for free also. All I pay for is parts.

06-30-2003, 08:02 PM	#2
BIGG BELLY Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: jax,fl Posts: 49	a manual rack will have slower steering--more turns from lock to lock---if you make quick turns this could be a problem--if not go 4 it __________________ 55 big window long bed 69 olds 98 check out my pics photo albums

06-30-2003, 09:02 PM	#3
70 Jimmy aka Crusher, Crushergmc Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,834	For a truck, I would go power. Is he using the Mustang or the Mustang II. I think that the mustang has a quicker turning ratio. Not sure though. __________________ "KEEP IT DOWN!" 70 Jimmy 454 2wd 56 GMC Big Window "It's funny till someone gets hurt, then it's freakin' hilarious"

06-30-2003, 11:42 PM	#4
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 21,946	Does Bill have one that clears the front of the engine w/your mods? What accesories are you going to run & where are you locating them? __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

07-01-2003, 12:12 PM	#6
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 21,946	I would like to use a rack but w/o knowing exactly where it's going to mount (measurements/dimensions) I wonder if it will interfere w/accessories. I've been looking @ the Jim Meyers front crossmember & suspension w/R&P & tubular arms but my concern is still the same as far as rack location vs. accessories/pulleys. Anyone know if Bill has any pics yet? __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

07-01-2003, 11:29 AM	#5
fastbagged68 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tri Valley California Posts: 792	When I went down to BIll places he was in the process of setting up a rack pinion. I imagine it cant be hard to install. I would run power though. I am thinking of setting up a rack in my crossmember but I would like to see what rack he is using andhow it mounts up. What do you mean Bill is going to set it up for free? Is yours going to be the prototype?

07-01-2003, 09:04 PM	#8
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	I am using the Mustang 2 unit. He has claimed to do this before. I think this is only suggested when you use the crossmember he has made or modified. I want a very clean setup with no power options in the way. I am running a electric water pump and a alternator. I would not mind running a power pump if I could get it to mount up and go on the opposite side of the alternator. All of this has to mount down low below the water pump. Bill Turner # is 909-926-1729. Tell him James from Ky sent you. Also he is doing me a favor doing the steering setup. I have had a few problems with the crossmember and he is sticking by his product!! __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

07-03-2003, 05:09 PM	#10
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	The good thing about the kit Bill sells is that you can get it setup for airride or coilovers. Also it is a bolt in piece. As soon as I get mine in Iwill post a few pics. It is a very well built kit!! __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448



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