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ginter · 06-30-2003, 08:59 PM

67 3/4 Camper Special.

Truly rust free. I could not find a spec of rust on it anywhere. That one pic of some slight surface rust near the rear of the front left fender is about it. It now has a different (supposedly rebuilt) 69 Impala 327 and a Turbo 400 with a leaky pan gasket. The original motor and trans are in the back of the bed. It fired right up, and ran strong with good oil pressure. Temp gauge and Sun tach aren't working. Truck needs some front end work, and alignment, and definitely brake work.

What's the verdict? It's 10-14 miles from my house. I have until 5:00 p.m. tomorrow before he relists it on ebay. I was the high bidder without meeting his reserve ($1825). "Buy it Now" price was lowered during the auction to $2500 and he says that's firm.

Can someone ID the rear axle for me BTW?

WORNBRAKES · 06-30-2003, 09:18 PM

As far as the rear end I was told that it is an Eaton/corp rear. I have one under my 68 3/4 with 4:10 open gears. Great rear in my experience and from what I have heard from others.
If the engine and tranny are strong and there is no rust, it may be worth the cash. If there are no other dents than what is in the pics than I would go for it. People pay that and dont get all the options like this truck offers.

**Classic Heartbeat** · 06-30-2003, 09:21 PM

Hmmmmm, Can we say road trip...LOL I have one in simmeler condition... (only very minor rust) 350, T-350 auto, 72 Disk brakes, 72 power brakes, 3.54 possy Dana 60, power steering, 3/4 ton rallys with 75% tread left... All for $3000.00... Nice truck... (Drive it home) What do you think...WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com

**Classic Heartbeat** · 06-30-2003, 09:22 PM

oops, here is a picture

**Classic Heartbeat** · 06-30-2003, 09:22 PM

and another... Sorry so dark.. WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com

ginter · 06-30-2003, 11:22 PM

Anybody else have an opinion?

EdB · 06-30-2003, 11:34 PM

Both sound like good deals to me.

EdB

Rod · 06-30-2003, 11:44 PM

Something dosen't look right with that glove box sticker....
Has custom group listed twice.
No spin was an option by itself.. I never saw one with the optional 457 gears listed in the same listing.

Rod · 06-30-2003, 11:51 PM

correct?

Longhorn Man · 07-01-2003, 12:13 AM

I noticed those option observations too...notice the 2 custom options numbers do not match.
The sticker DOES apear to be origianl...and they DO make errors on the assembly line. My frame VIN and body VIN differ by one number...the very last number.
It is definatly a clean SOB...even in Tx I never saw one THAT clean underneath.

casey · 07-01-2003, 12:58 AM

ginter that sounds good to me, just think of all the money and headache you'll save with no rust, man give me a rust free unit any day, and he's giving you the original drive train, I'd go for it. and I'm kind of parchel to wes truck just cause I love those 67's, and better yet I like the white, wes's looks like a nice project truck too!

ginter · 07-01-2003, 08:42 AM

Yeah, the sticker issues don't bother me much. I'm looking at it from a price/value standpoint pretty much. The rust free part is mainly what I'm after. I don't really want a 3/4 ton though. Especially one with 4.56 gears in the rear. I need to do light hauling and some occasionally heavy towing (6000-6500 lbs once in a blue moon), but I also need to do it on the highway at 65-70 MPH. The thought was I could buy this truck and drive it while I work the black 72 Cheyenne next year.

This truck needs at least $500 to make it road worthy and reliable just the way it is right now (tires, gauges working, tranny leaks fixed, brakes, steering stuff, alignment, etc...). I think I'll offer $2k even (pretty sure he won't take it) and leave it at that.

Thanks for the replies.

Joe67 · 07-01-2003, 08:57 AM

Looks like a nice solid truck

You buy that and I'll take this off his hands

**CPNE** · 07-01-2003, 09:32 AM

In 67 the custom convenience and appearance group was 2 separate option codes, that were combined into one in 68. So the Z62 and Z61 options are indeed factory correct.

As for the no-spin with the gear ratio, my son has a 68 burb that lists "positraction 4:11" on the same line as well, so I'd not be bothered by that anomoly either.

*dtlilly* · 07-01-2003, 06:40 PM

Looks like a real good truck for the money. I would still play hardball with the seller and see if you can get it for less than the $2500, since it didn't sell the first time for his asking, what makes him think it will sell a second time on ebay?

68CST327 · 07-01-2003, 06:51 PM

So, I have a 68 C20 CST with a "No Spin Axle" listed on the options sheet, but there is no gear ratio listed. What gear ratio do I probably have?

**CPNE** · 07-01-2003, 10:22 PM

4:11

ginter · 07-01-2003, 10:23 PM

The seller just called and made me an offer I don't *think* I can refuse. I still don't really want a 3/4 ton truck with 4.56 gears. But it is a posi, T400, AC cab, and RUST FREE!

Damn it. I really don't need another truck around here either.

But it's RUST FREE!

ginter · 07-01-2003, 11:42 PM

Thought I'd toss a pic in here (one of the major advantages to a web based BBS forum IMHO).

Longhorn Man · 07-01-2003, 11:46 PM

Dude...get the truck.

ginter · 07-01-2003, 11:50 PM

I'm going over again tomorrow morning to check ball joints and some other little odds and ends before this guy takes off to go camping at 8:00 a.m. I'll have a cash deposit in hand then and his wife will be around in the evening to hand over the keys/title if the deal goes through.

Who knows? He may drop another $100 without my even having to ask.

06-30-2003, 08:59 PM	#1
ginter Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Denver CO. Posts: 156	Should I buy this truck? 67 3/4 Camper Special. Truly rust free. I could not find a spec of rust on it anywhere. That one pic of some slight surface rust near the rear of the front left fender is about it. It now has a different (supposedly rebuilt) 69 Impala 327 and a Turbo 400 with a leaky pan gasket. The original motor and trans are in the back of the bed. It fired right up, and ran strong with good oil pressure. Temp gauge and Sun tach aren't working. Truck needs some front end work, and alignment, and definitely brake work. What's the verdict? It's 10-14 miles from my house. I have until 5:00 p.m. tomorrow before he relists it on ebay. I was the high bidder without meeting his reserve ($1825). "Buy it Now" price was lowered during the auction to $2500 and he says that's firm. Can someone ID the rear axle for me BTW? __________________ Mike 67 C20 Camper Special - Rust Free! 1970 Porsche 914/6

06-30-2003, 09:18 PM	#2
WORNBRAKES Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hughesville, MD Posts: 1,350	As far as the rear end I was told that it is an Eaton/corp rear. I have one under my 68 3/4 with 4:10 open gears. Great rear in my experience and from what I have heard from others. If the engine and tranny are strong and there is no rust, it may be worth the cash. If there are no other dents than what is in the pics than I would go for it. People pay that and dont get all the options like this truck offers. __________________ Mario and Mandy Hughesville, MD 20637 69 C10 305/350 71 K5 Basket case 75 K10 Rescue Parting out 77 MG Midget Parting out 15 6.7L Cummins

06-30-2003, 09:21 PM	#3
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,766	Hmmmmm, Can we say road trip...LOL I have one in simmeler condition... (only very minor rust) 350, T-350 auto, 72 Disk brakes, 72 power brakes, 3.54 possy Dana 60, power steering, 3/4 ton rallys with 75% tread left... All for $3000.00... Nice truck... (Drive it home) What do you think...WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys

06-30-2003, 09:22 PM	#4
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,766	oops, here is a picture __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys Last edited by Classic Heartbeat; 10-04-2007 at 06:54 PM.

06-30-2003, 09:22 PM	#5
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,766	and another... Sorry so dark.. WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys Last edited by Classic Heartbeat; 10-04-2007 at 06:54 PM.

06-30-2003, 11:22 PM	#6
ginter Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Denver CO. Posts: 156	Anybody else have an opinion? __________________ Mike 67 C20 Camper Special - Rust Free! 1970 Porsche 914/6

06-30-2003, 11:34 PM	#7
EdB Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Gulfport Ms Posts: 401	Both sound like good deals to me. EdB

06-30-2003, 11:44 PM	#8
Rod Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Eastern - Manitoba Canada, Winnipeg Posts: 4,369	Something dosen't look right with that glove box sticker.... Has custom group listed twice. No spin was an option by itself.. I never saw one with the optional 457 gears listed in the same listing. __________________ Senior active founding member. 70 3/4 ton GMC Suburban 4x4 250/4 spd. 71 1/2 ton Suburban Chevy 4x4, 350/350 72 Chev 1 ton tow truck 402BB w/Holmes 440 wrecker on propane 2005 FLSTSCI Harley Springer 85 FXSB Harley Lowrider 72 Triumph 650 Bonneville 5spd "Poor people don't have hobbies" Quote from wife.

06-30-2003, 11:51 PM	#9
Rod Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Eastern - Manitoba Canada, Winnipeg Posts: 4,369	correct? __________________ Senior active founding member. 70 3/4 ton GMC Suburban 4x4 250/4 spd. 71 1/2 ton Suburban Chevy 4x4, 350/350 72 Chev 1 ton tow truck 402BB w/Holmes 440 wrecker on propane 2005 FLSTSCI Harley Springer 85 FXSB Harley Lowrider 72 Triumph 650 Bonneville 5spd "Poor people don't have hobbies" Quote from wife.

07-01-2003, 12:13 AM	#10
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	I noticed those option observations too...notice the 2 custom options numbers do not match. The sticker DOES apear to be origianl...and they DO make errors on the assembly line. My frame VIN and body VIN differ by one number...the very last number. It is definatly a clean SOB...even in Tx I never saw one THAT clean underneath.

07-01-2003, 12:58 AM	#11
casey Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kelowna B.C. Canada Posts: 2,048	ginter that sounds good to me, just think of all the money and headache you'll save with no rust, man give me a rust free unit any day, and he's giving you the original drive train, I'd go for it. and I'm kind of parchel to wes truck just cause I love those 67's, and better yet I like the white, wes's looks like a nice project truck too!

07-01-2003, 08:42 AM	#12
ginter Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Denver CO. Posts: 156	Yeah, the sticker issues don't bother me much. I'm looking at it from a price/value standpoint pretty much. The rust free part is mainly what I'm after. I don't really want a 3/4 ton though. Especially one with 4.56 gears in the rear. I need to do light hauling and some occasionally heavy towing (6000-6500 lbs once in a blue moon), but I also need to do it on the highway at 65-70 MPH. The thought was I could buy this truck and drive it while I work the black 72 Cheyenne next year. This truck needs at least $500 to make it road worthy and reliable just the way it is right now (tires, gauges working, tranny leaks fixed, brakes, steering stuff, alignment, etc...). I think I'll offer $2k even (pretty sure he won't take it) and leave it at that. Thanks for the replies. __________________ Mike 67 C20 Camper Special - Rust Free! 1970 Porsche 914/6

07-01-2003, 08:57 AM	#13
Joe67 67 is sold Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Troy, Michigan Posts: 6,733	Looks like a nice solid truck You buy that and I'll take this off his hands __________________ Joe - Formerly 67c10step ------------------------------- 1967 Chevy Stepside - ECE 4/6, fuelcell, 5lug - SOLD gr8lakes - My ebay auctions Click here to order forum apparel :: Click here to become a subscribing member

07-01-2003, 09:32 AM	#14
CPNE Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NH Posts: 6,662	In 67 the custom convenience and appearance group was 2 separate option codes, that were combined into one in 68. So the Z62 and Z61 options are indeed factory correct. As for the no-spin with the gear ratio, my son has a 68 burb that lists "positraction 4:11" on the same line as well, so I'd not be bothered by that anomoly either. __________________ Currently on or near the homestead: 67 Chevy SWB 2WD stepside 350/3 on tree (Pat's) 67 GMC SWB 2WD Fleet 402/auto (Brian's under construction) 67 Chevy 3/4 ton 2WD 402/auto (Business Hauler) 67 Chevy 1 ton dually 2WD 396/4 speed (Former business hauler, Needs TLC) 68 Chevy 1/2 ton Suburban 2WD 250 six/3 on tree (Brian's Needs TLC) 70 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD 350/4 speed (Pat's - Disguised as a 68 GMC) 71 Chevy SWB stepside (Crushed by tree - parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD (Parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD Suburban (Parts Donor) 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4WD 292 six/4 speed (Mine - Disguised as a 67 GMC) 81 GMC 4WD Dually Dump Body 350/4 speed (Business Hauler) 82 Camaro Z/28 355/Super T-10 (Pat's toy) 93 Caprice 9C1 (Brian's Cop Car) 02 Toyota Camry (Reliable but a souless steel and plastic hulk) 2011 2SS RS Camaro M6 Factory Hurst Shifter Maybe I need to sell some of this crap Yet another Bozo with a sawz-all

07-01-2003, 06:40 PM	#15
dtlilly Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Shadow of Lambeau Field Posts: 5,597	Looks like a real good truck for the money. I would still play hardball with the seller and see if you can get it for less than the $2500, since it didn't sell the first time for his asking, what makes him think it will sell a second time on ebay?



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07-01-2003, 06:51 PM	#16
68CST327 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: USA Posts: 443	So, I have a 68 C20 CST with a "No Spin Axle" listed on the options sheet, but there is no gear ratio listed. What gear ratio do I probably have?

07-01-2003, 10:22 PM	#17
CPNE Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NH Posts: 6,662	4:11 __________________ Currently on or near the homestead: 67 Chevy SWB 2WD stepside 350/3 on tree (Pat's) 67 GMC SWB 2WD Fleet 402/auto (Brian's under construction) 67 Chevy 3/4 ton 2WD 402/auto (Business Hauler) 67 Chevy 1 ton dually 2WD 396/4 speed (Former business hauler, Needs TLC) 68 Chevy 1/2 ton Suburban 2WD 250 six/3 on tree (Brian's Needs TLC) 70 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD 350/4 speed (Pat's - Disguised as a 68 GMC) 71 Chevy SWB stepside (Crushed by tree - parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD (Parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD Suburban (Parts Donor) 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4WD 292 six/4 speed (Mine - Disguised as a 67 GMC) 81 GMC 4WD Dually Dump Body 350/4 speed (Business Hauler) 82 Camaro Z/28 355/Super T-10 (Pat's toy) 93 Caprice 9C1 (Brian's Cop Car) 02 Toyota Camry (Reliable but a souless steel and plastic hulk) 2011 2SS RS Camaro M6 Factory Hurst Shifter Maybe I need to sell some of this crap Yet another Bozo with a sawz-all

07-01-2003, 10:23 PM	#18
ginter Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Denver CO. Posts: 156	The seller just called and made me an offer I don't think I can refuse. I still don't really want a 3/4 ton truck with 4.56 gears. But it is a posi, T400, AC cab, and RUST FREE! Damn it. I really don't need another truck around here either. But it's RUST FREE! __________________ Mike 67 C20 Camper Special - Rust Free! 1970 Porsche 914/6

07-01-2003, 11:42 PM	#19
ginter Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Denver CO. Posts: 156	Thought I'd toss a pic in here (one of the major advantages to a web based BBS forum IMHO). Attached Images __________________ Mike 67 C20 Camper Special - Rust Free! 1970 Porsche 914/6

07-01-2003, 11:46 PM	#20
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Dude...get the truck.

07-01-2003, 11:50 PM	#21
ginter Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Denver CO. Posts: 156	I'm going over again tomorrow morning to check ball joints and some other little odds and ends before this guy takes off to go camping at 8:00 a.m. I'll have a cash deposit in hand then and his wife will be around in the evening to hand over the keys/title if the deal goes through. Who knows? He may drop another $100 without my even having to ask. __________________ Mike 67 C20 Camper Special - Rust Free! 1970 Porsche 914/6

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