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cojnit · 07-14-2003, 10:34 AM

I am trying to get my sub back on the road, and I am making up my mind on shifter options.

1. Buy a new 3 speed column and go back to the stock set-up (50-100 bucks)

2. Go to a Hurst 3 speed floor shifter(50 bucks)

3. Try to tackle putting in an automatic. I have no experience with this and have no idea what is involved, but I would love and automatic ($$??)

Also looking to put in a fuel injected 350 in the future so n ot sure what would be the best for that. can you use a 3 speed with a 350? do you want to?

HEEEELP

*Randy70C-10* · 07-14-2003, 10:43 AM

Automatic tranny installs are easier than changing the spark plugs.

(get someone that's done it before to help you) there are a couple of tricks involved, but nothing major.

**CPNE** · 07-14-2003, 11:28 AM

If I recall your burb is an I6. If that is the case I would not swap in an auto until I swapped in the V8. The reason is that with engine/tranny swaps the driveshaft length will often change, and if you swap the tranny then the engine, you'll be doing this twice.

If you had a 69-up synchro 3 speed and put the 350/th350 combo in the I6 engine position, you'd have no driveshaft length issues. However your 67 has the older style non-synchro 3 speed which is shorter so a driveshaft length change is required with the auto regardless of engine and/or engine position.

I'd put in the 3 on the floor until you decide on engine/tranny combo as the v8 with auto will change driveshaft and column linkage, and the v8 with 3 speed will change column linkage and clutch linkage (and possibly driveshaft depending on engine mount position).

It's not a slam dunk any way you slice it, but having a parts donor will help.

FYI, there is nothing wrong with a 3 speed behind a small block unless you're putting in a torque monster. Your rear gears (3:73 stock) are suited for that tranny. A small block and auto would have been outfitted with 3:08 rear gears. An overdrive tranny would work nice with the 3:73's though.

Putting the floor shifter will definately "motivate" you to complete your swap as a floor shifter with a bench seat is a real PITA IMO.

sweet n rare67 · 07-14-2003, 06:32 PM

I have a 350 and floor shift 3 speed in my 67. it drives fine and it shifts really nice but gotta becareful because you cant just hop in and pop the clutch cuz it will spit that little thing out on the ground. However it will work fine

cojnit · 07-14-2003, 07:30 PM

Is it the Hurst Indy or the Hurst Daytona that is the desired shifter conversion for the column shift?

I hope it is the indy, because I just bought one off of ebay!

07-14-2003, 10:34 AM	#1
cojnit Nothing clever Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kailua HI Posts: 828	looking for some help making a decision I am trying to get my sub back on the road, and I am making up my mind on shifter options. 1. Buy a new 3 speed column and go back to the stock set-up (50-100 bucks) 2. Go to a Hurst 3 speed floor shifter(50 bucks) 3. Try to tackle putting in an automatic. I have no experience with this and have no idea what is involved, but I would love and automatic ($$??) Also looking to put in a fuel injected 350 in the future so n ot sure what would be the best for that. can you use a 3 speed with a 350? do you want to? HEEEELP __________________ Got "the Midas Touch!"

07-14-2003, 11:28 AM	#3
CPNE Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NH Posts: 6,664	If I recall your burb is an I6. If that is the case I would not swap in an auto until I swapped in the V8. The reason is that with engine/tranny swaps the driveshaft length will often change, and if you swap the tranny then the engine, you'll be doing this twice. If you had a 69-up synchro 3 speed and put the 350/th350 combo in the I6 engine position, you'd have no driveshaft length issues. However your 67 has the older style non-synchro 3 speed which is shorter so a driveshaft length change is required with the auto regardless of engine and/or engine position. I'd put in the 3 on the floor until you decide on engine/tranny combo as the v8 with auto will change driveshaft and column linkage, and the v8 with 3 speed will change column linkage and clutch linkage (and possibly driveshaft depending on engine mount position). It's not a slam dunk any way you slice it, but having a parts donor will help. FYI, there is nothing wrong with a 3 speed behind a small block unless you're putting in a torque monster. Your rear gears (3:73 stock) are suited for that tranny. A small block and auto would have been outfitted with 3:08 rear gears. An overdrive tranny would work nice with the 3:73's though. Putting the floor shifter will definately "motivate" you to complete your swap as a floor shifter with a bench seat is a real PITA IMO. __________________ Currently on or near the homestead: 67 Chevy SWB 2WD stepside 350/3 on tree (Pat's) 67 GMC SWB 2WD Fleet 402/auto (Brian's under construction) 67 Chevy 3/4 ton 2WD 402/auto (Business Hauler) 67 Chevy 1 ton dually 2WD 396/4 speed (Former business hauler, Needs TLC) 68 Chevy 1/2 ton Suburban 2WD 250 six/3 on tree (Brian's Needs TLC) 70 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD 350/4 speed (Pat's - Disguised as a 68 GMC) 71 Chevy SWB stepside (Crushed by tree - parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD (Parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD Suburban (Parts Donor) 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4WD 292 six/4 speed (Mine - Disguised as a 67 GMC) 81 GMC 4WD Dually Dump Body 350/4 speed (Business Hauler) 82 Camaro Z/28 355/Super T-10 (Pat's toy) 93 Caprice 9C1 (Brian's Cop Car) 02 Toyota Camry (Reliable but a souless steel and plastic hulk) 2011 2SS RS Camaro M6 Factory Hurst Shifter Maybe I need to sell some of this crap Yet another Bozo with a sawz-all

07-14-2003, 07:30 PM	#5
cojnit Nothing clever Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kailua HI Posts: 828	shifter Is it the Hurst Indy or the Hurst Daytona that is the desired shifter conversion for the column shift? I hope it is the indy, because I just bought one off of ebay! __________________ Got "the Midas Touch!" Last edited by cojnit; 07-15-2003 at 12:06 AM.

07-14-2003, 10:43 AM	#2
Randy70C-10 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. U.S.A. Posts: 15,320	Automatic tranny installs are easier than changing the spark plugs. (get someone that's done it before to help you) there are a couple of tricks involved, but nothing major.

07-14-2003, 06:32 PM	#4
sweet n rare67 Young truck fanatic Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The wonderful Mat-Su Valley....Palmer, Ak Posts: 253	I have a 350 and floor shift 3 speed in my 67. it drives fine and it shifts really nice but gotta becareful because you cant just hop in and pop the clutch cuz it will spit that little thing out on the ground. However it will work fine



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