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Old 12-29-2013, 11:51 PM   #1
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60-72 New CPP mounts (and kit)

Anyone have experience with them yet? good? (ya ya ya I know the whole old motor mount fiasco/header clearance issue)

It looks to have the new designed motor mounts (with header clearance)

For what its worth.. the mounts, trans xmember, and doug thorley headers are pretty good considering its the same price as ECE members and buying the headers thru summit. That as on my 1966 C10... I will have to cut 1/2" of frame rail edge off to accomodate the ECE mounts I believe.

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Old 12-30-2013, 12:47 PM   #2
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Re: 60-72 New CPP mounts (and kit)

those adapter plates look like they place the motor forward?
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Old 12-30-2013, 02:36 PM   #3
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those adapter plates look like they place the motor forward?
Which would be bad for my truck oil pan/ crossmember in regards to interfering.

(Truck won't be lowered for some time... so the pan is OK for now)

.50 Forward only would be better I'm thinking...

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Old 12-30-2013, 05:19 PM   #4
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those adapter plates look like they place the motor forward?
It depends - if the stands go in the six cylinder location, it would end up in the stock location.
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:49 PM   #5
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good point
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Old 12-31-2013, 05:51 PM   #6
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It depends - if the stands go in the six cylinder location, it would end up in the stock location.
I think my crossmember was molested...

looks like maybe my 6 cylinder lower bolt location fell victim to someones torch...(elongated slots)

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Re: 60-72 New CPP mounts (and kit)

I could be wrong, but I think I saw that those kits from CPP have options for the adapter plates to choose your engine position.
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Old 01-08-2014, 10:43 PM   #8
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I could be wrong, but I think I saw that those kits from CPP have options for the adapter plates to choose your engine position.
I don't see any "options" on the kit...

I'll have to call but who knows what I'll actually get....

maybe CPPjeff will chime in with a kit part number with the correct position that I need...
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Old 01-09-2014, 09:21 AM   #9
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Re: 60-72 New CPP mounts (and kit)

I bought those perches and they didnt work for me. I had a hard time finding headers that would work with them.

It looks to me like it would work perfectly and yes you would need to slice a bit off the inside of the frame rail.

If I was going to buy from CPP, I would call only Jeff. i would not speak to anyone else there, there has been way too many horror stories on customer service from them and Jeff has been the one shining light IMO.

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Old 01-09-2014, 09:56 AM   #10
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I bought those perches and they didnt work for me. I had a hard time finding headers that would work with them.

It looks to me like it would work perfectly and yes you would need to slice a bit off the inside of the frame rail.

If I was going to buy from CPP, I would call only Jeff. i would not speak to anyone else there, there has been way too many horror stories on customer service from them and Jeff has been the one shining light IMO.

Good Luck!
I think the ECE mounts require frame trimming also. (60-66)
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Old 01-12-2014, 11:46 AM   #11
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Looks like they have new options.....

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Old 01-14-2014, 01:16 AM   #12
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Re: 60-72 New CPP mounts (and kit)

Anyone know the difference between the 322y and 323y Doug Thorley headers?
Anyone else know the difference between kits?

I have a 1966...but whats the difference in kits besides headers? (DT doesnt even list a 322y on their website)

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Re: 60-72 New CPP mounts (and kit)

I have the ECE mounts and yes they also require frame trimming.
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I have the CPP sheetmetal perches with Dirty Dingo sliders. My Doug Thorleys 323y cleared with no problem...
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Old 01-16-2014, 02:33 PM   #15
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I'm about to give these a twirl... wish me luck!
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What are you going to order? Just the perches or that whole kit?

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What are you going to order? Just the perches or that whole kit?
whole kit I think.....

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Old 02-01-2014, 07:47 AM   #18
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How much was the whole kit and whats the part number you used ?? Would i need the same one for my 64 ?? i`m new to this stuff.
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Re: 60-72 New CPP mounts (and kit)

with the help of chevyguy_72.... I kind of piece mealed it all in the end.

I did use the CPP cross member... but ordered it from summit racing to void having to deal with CPP.

I did use the CPP sheet metal motor mounts that I found on ebay.. again voiding CPP's website, and service as a whole.

I ended up using dirty dingo sliders

I ended up sourcing all this seperately to void the cost of paying for rubber motor mounts and transmission mounts with everything... in order to seperately buy Energy Suspension poly mounts.

I will be using the 1-5/8" headers from DT (324 y) as their exit angle is cleaner vs. the 323 and 322 1-7/8" primary headers which they exit somewhere in between a shorty and a long tube.

Here is my truck all mock mounted in.


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Sure is a good feeling seeing that LS sitting between the frame rails of your old pickup truck isn't it?
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Nice set up.
I need to mock up my 99 LS1 into my 63 and want to go with CPP sheet metal mounts but torn whether to get the CPP slidder adapters or the dirty dingo ones. And for the headers I was going to go with some hooker cast iron ones. Like these. What is the total adjustment of the dingo ones forward and back from stock location?
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Old 02-08-2014, 10:39 PM   #22
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Nice set up.
I need to mock up my 99 LS1 into my 63 and want to go with CPP sheet metal mounts but torn whether to get the CPP slidder adapters or the dirty dingo ones. And for the headers I was going to go with some hooker cast iron ones. Like these. What is the total adjustment of the dingo ones forward and back from stock location?
I ended up rolling with doug thorley 324-y longtubes... (even tho in my 66... they were "made" for your 67-72 trucks)
They exit above the trans crossmember and have the 02 bungs already in them... As far as the dirty dingos are concerned... 2.50" of adjustment total... I had NO problem sliding the engine to have the transmission crossmember utilize of the pre-existing holes as well as my original 1pc driveshaft (new slip yoke and u joints tho yes)





yes the exhaust is above trans x member.. poor camera angle....
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Looks like its coming along nicely bud, A quick question though, how much were those headers and wont you have an issue with the exhaust hitting that trans x-member? Maybe its just the angle of that last pic. Thanks

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Thanks for the added pics. Those headers look sweet. I'm sticking with cast iron though I think for less chances for leaks and and it being a daily driver. Those dingos are pricey. The CPP sliders are $145 shipped with poly mounts through eBay. I think everything will clear.
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Looks like its coming along nicely bud, A quick question though, how much were those headers and wont you have an issue with the exhaust hitting that trans x-member? Maybe its just the angle of that last pic. Thanks

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Bad angle.... looks are deceiving....heres a better one.... FYI headers were $616 @ summit....
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