The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1967 - 1972 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-10-2014, 08:13 PM   #1
OKGMC4
Registered User
 
OKGMC4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Broken Arrow, OK
Posts: 1,233
12 bolt rear strength

I did a search and got a ton of info on the 12 bolts and how weak they are compared to 10 bolt 8.5" and 12 bolt car rear ends. I get that part, I don't plan on drag racing my 69, but it will be more than stock. I want to build a 5.3 to about 450 crank hp naturally aspirated and put 345 30zr19 tires on it. Will these rear ends take that kind of power and live? I only ask because I've seen ls1 F bodies get that kind of power through their weak 7.625 ring gear 10 bolts and survive. I've also seen 12 second LT1 vettes running dana 35 rear ends. Surely the truck 12 bolt is as good or better than that?
__________________
56 GMC BUILD THREAD:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=368649

69 long bed Chevy turned 67 gmc jimmy roadster:
https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=851167
OKGMC4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2014, 08:27 PM   #2
chisler
Registered User
 
chisler's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Chilliwack British Columbia Canada
Posts: 199
Re: 12 bolt rear strength

I can remember taking my rear diff to www.iwerearendsonly.com out my way and the guys said to me the major weakness with the 12 bolt is the carrier...prone to cracking...what they did is they stress relieved it by dressing up the whole carrier mind you this was for my 4x4 ...so you may want to ask about this out your way ..hope this helps I am a bit too far away..sorry
Frank
chisler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2014, 10:31 PM   #3
Fitz
Account Suspended
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tucson
Posts: 2,183
Re: 12 bolt rear strength

Quote:
Originally Posted by OKGMC4 View Post
I did a search and got a ton of info on the 12 bolts and how weak they are compared to 10 bolt 8.5" and 12 bolt car rear ends. I get that part, I don't plan on drag racing my 69, but it will be more than stock. I want to build a 5.3 to about 450 crank hp naturally aspirated and put 345 30zr19 tires on it. Will these rear ends take that kind of power and live? I only ask because I've seen ls1 F bodies get that kind of power through their weak 7.625 ring gear 10 bolts and survive. I've also seen 12 second LT1 vettes running dana 35 rear ends. Surely the truck 12 bolt is as good or better than that?
I don't know where you got your data but you should check your sources. I run a 650 Hp ZZ572 through a Johnny Winter built turbo 400 into a 12 bolt truck diff with 4.10 gears. That motor puts out almost 700 ft lbs of torque which is almost double what you want to run and has never broken. The truck has made over 100 passes at Southwestern International Dragway and now has 15,000 miles on it as I use it on the street and the strip with no failures.
Fitz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2014, 10:37 PM   #4
68350
Senior Member
 
68350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Williston, ND
Posts: 2,999
Re: 12 bolt rear strength

I have a 550hp/570tq 496 and th400(with 2800 stall) sending power to my rebuilt truck 12 bolt and haven't had an issue.
__________________
68 Chevy CST/10, 50th Anniversary, 327/th400, 373 posi, buckets
68 GMC Shortbox Stepside, 402/th400, Tilt, Tach, Bucket Seats, 3.08 Positraction
69 Chevy Camaro SS, 383, 4 speed, positraction
70 Chevy El Camino SS396, Triple Black, 454/th400, Tach
70 Chevy Shortbox Stepside 4x4, 350/th350, Tilt, Tach, Cab Lights, Bumper Guards, Tow Hooks
70 Chevy 3/4 Longbox, 350/auto, 70k, SURVIVOR
71 Chevy Blazer, CST, 350/auto
71 GMC Sierra K2500, 454, 4 speed, 4.10 posi, 37s
71 Custom/30, Open Road, 350/th400, tilt
72 Chevy Shortbox Fleetside, 496 Stroker/th400, Tilt, Tach, Bucket Seats, 3.42 Posi
72 GMC Sierra Grande 2500. 427/th400, tilt, a/c, tool and stowage, buckets/console, 3.54 posi
68350 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2014, 08:01 AM   #5
OKGMC4
Registered User
 
OKGMC4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Broken Arrow, OK
Posts: 1,233
Re: 12 bolt rear strength

That's awesome to hear, guys. Further proof that just because you saw it on the internet it may not be true. Some of the 12 bolt bashing I saw was on this very board. It seems like no matter what you have, someone will hate it. You do a drum to disc swap and someone will ask why you didn't just do 13" drilled rotors. You get a 5.3 and they say an LS2 would have been better. It's all relative. I already have a 3.73 posi 12 bolt and couldn't see getting rid of it. Thanks so much.
__________________
56 GMC BUILD THREAD:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=368649

69 long bed Chevy turned 67 gmc jimmy roadster:
https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=851167
OKGMC4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2014, 12:05 PM   #6
RexDodge
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Oregon City, Oregon
Posts: 741
Re: 12 bolt rear strength

I had a 12 bolt truck rear end that I narrowed and put in my 11 second 63 nova. Ran that for over 7 years. Sold it and it's still going strong after another 5 years. The only change I suggest is the ford style axle retainers (I think I got mine from moser). With that hp the c clips make me nervous.
RexDodge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2014, 01:00 PM   #7
kelsfine69
18 Till I Die
 
kelsfine69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Alberta, Canada
Posts: 1,522
Re: 12 bolt rear strength

454 LS7 in mine, 4:11 posi, ET drag radials 325/50-15's, no problems
__________________
2011 GMC Acadia
1969 GMC BBC LS7
2007 GMC Crew Duramax
1987 Camaro Iroc 350 Tuned Port Injection
42000Km

1987 Chevrolet Silverado 350 TBI
1987 Chevrolet Silverado 350 TBI(yes 2)

Take me drunk, I'm too home...
kelsfine69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2014, 03:01 PM   #8
Fitz
Account Suspended
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tucson
Posts: 2,183
Re: 12 bolt rear strength

Quote:
Originally Posted by OKGMC4 View Post
That's awesome to hear, guys. Further proof that just because you saw it on the internet it may not be true. Some of the 12 bolt bashing I saw was on this very board. It seems like no matter what you have, someone will hate it. You do a drum to disc swap and someone will ask why you didn't just do 13" drilled rotors. You get a 5.3 and they say an LS2 would have been better. It's all relative. I already have a 3.73 posi 12 bolt and couldn't see getting rid of it. Thanks so much.
Every week this board proves that opinions are just like noses...everyone has one and they are all different.

There are some very solid contributors here though and I always pay attention to them.

Good luck with your truck!
Fitz is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:29 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com